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Group for the discussion on the new emerging field of Neurophilosophy and of those working in this field ( Churchlands) , as well as on the intersections between neuroscience ,philosophy, behavior, and other related fields

A place to submit and discuss links related to the sciences of behaviour and consciousness. In-depth submissions and conversations regarding neuroscience, psychology, philosophy of mind, cognitive science, artificial intelligence and the philosophy of psychology are all welcomed.

The name is a bit misleading; discussion is intended to be broad, rather than focusing solely on neurophilosophy.

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"Category Theory and the Ontology of Śūnyata" is an abuse of science.

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2024/03/31
06:07 UTC

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1MindForAll&AllFor1Mind

If you shared a consciousness with someone else or everyone else how could you tell what's your thoughts vs what's other people's thoughts? Also, since our brains produce the chemicals that make us feel good, bad, sad, mad, horny etc...then by sharing a collective consciousness when one person feels some type of way do the rest feel it as well. If so does it travel in a wave or is it all in synchronization. If this were or is how reality works what are some of your thoughts and opinions how you would handle each emotion and are there any other questions that'd be important to ask? If you could If you would just for fun make a mini guide that a new soul coming into your realm of reality could use to operate and understand well enough that they'd have no problems making they're dreams come true.

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2024/03/30
18:49 UTC

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Neurotech’s Implications for Free Will, Morality and the Future of Society

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2024/03/29
21:58 UTC

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Looking for resources that argue that everyone is psychologically constrained regardless of mental health/illness/disorders

I'm a little confused on which philosophy subreddit this belongs to specifically, so I apologize in advance for that.

I'm looking to write an essay or thesis paper (depending on some irrelevant stuff) about indeterminism, determinism, the philosophy quantum physics, a bit of the philosophy of psychology, and what it all means for free will.

I actually apparently made a draft of this paper a few years ago, and I'm looking for help to find readings on a certain topic.

One of the arguments I bring up is the idea that people dx'd with mental disorders aren't (at least necessarily) any more psychologically constrained than those that aren't dx'd with anything; that everyone is psychologically constrained regardless of they have traits that happens to categorize them into fitting a diagnosis or not, and that if a theory requires being free of psychological constraints as a requirement for free will, then according to such theories, no one has it.

I use all my own reasonings that I could come up with in the argument, but if anyone has any sources to read that would support this sort of idea that I could use and cite, I'd really appreciate it. I'm not looking to argue about whether it's true or not here, just sources from people who've advocated for similar ideas for my paper.

I'm not looking to argue about indeterminism or determinism, or whether psychological constraints should count or not. I'm just looking for perspectives that support this idea under the assumption that we're working with a theory of free will that requires a lack of psychological constraints. I'm also not looking for scientific evidence, like the thing about how your brain makes a decision before you realize it thing,

All I've been able to find are studies about whether people diagnosed with mental disorders believe in free will or not, or just vague restatements that mentally ill people are psychologically constrained. Maybe I should look into the neurodiversity or the antipsychiatry movements? If anyone has any specific readings, I'd appreciate.

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2024/03/25
20:00 UTC

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A very reliable conversion therapy, with 99.9% success rate with no obvious side effects, is invented at the same cost as surgery. Crossposted from hypotheticalsituation

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2024/03/18
13:47 UTC

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A quest for true reality

I have used chat gbt through key phrasing to refine and present my comprehension of reality using the repetition of a holistic perspective and plausibility to solve deeper issues in the context of understanding reality and now I have a gbt “generated” understanding of reality because I’m a 15 almost 16 year old with my own roadblocks and I cannot go from self theorising of seperate phenomena and how they’re connected. to a “unified reality framework” that is somewhat ready to present within a couple weeks of exploring my own different perspective

Please keep in mind chat gbt is attempting to understand presenting this idea to futurology subreddit

Core Principles:

Vibrational Harmony and Quantum Interconnectedness: Evidence from quantum mechanics shows that all particles possess wave-like properties and interact through fields. These vibrational frequencies form the basis of our reality, influencing everything from particle behavior to the structure of galaxies. The phenomenon of quantum entanglement further illustrates the interconnected nature of reality, where particles instantaneously influence each other's states regardless of distance, suggesting a unified, vibrational fabric underlying existence. Conscious Co-creation and Reality Dynamics: Studies in neuroscience and psychology demonstrate the profound impact of consciousness on perception and behavior. Our thoughts, emotions, and beliefs influence brain activity and neural pathways, shaping our subjective experience of reality. Moreover, experiments in quantum physics, such as the double-slit experiment, reveal how observation affects the behavior of quantum particles, suggesting that consciousness plays a fundamental role in shaping the fabric of reality. Components Expanded:

Quantum-Neuro Interface and Cognitive Integration: Research in neuroscience highlights the complex interplay between quantum processes and neural activities within the brain. Quantum effects, such as coherence and superposition, have been observed in biological systems, suggesting a potential quantum basis for cognitive functions. This interface between quantum processes and neural activities provides a framework for understanding how consciousness integrates with the physical brain, enabling perception of multidimensional reality. Dimensional Exploration and Conscious Navigation: While the concept of navigating dimensions may seem abstract, studies in quantum physics and cosmology support the existence of higher dimensions beyond our conventional understanding of space and time. String theory, for example, posits the existence of extra dimensions beyond the familiar three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension. By aligning with specific vibrational frequencies, individuals may theoretically access and interact with these higher dimensions, expanding their perception of reality. Evolutionary Expansion and Vibrational Mastery: The concept of consciousness evolution aligns with theories of cultural and societal development, as well as individual growth and transformation. Through practices such as meditation, mindfulness, and emotional intelligence training, individuals can cultivate vibrational mastery, aligning their beliefs and intentions with the fundamental truths of the universe. This alignment fosters personal and collective evolution, leading to advancements in spirituality, technology, and societal structures. Dynamics Clarified:

Conscious Influence and Vibrational Resonance: The phenomenon of vibrational resonance is well-documented in various scientific disciplines, from acoustics to chemistry. When two systems oscillate at the same frequency, they resonate with each other, amplifying their vibrational energy. Similarly, consciousness can influence vibrational states through intention, belief, and emotional resonance, leading to observable effects on both physical and non-physical realities. Unity Consciousness and Collective Coherence: The concept of unity consciousness finds parallels in systems theory and complexity science, which explore how individual elements within a system interact to produce emergent properties and behaviors. Quantum coherence within individual consciousness reflects the larger coherence present in collective consciousness, where individuals align their energy fields with the collective, synergistically influencing collective reality. This interconnected harmony fosters unity consciousness and collective coherence on a global scale. Applications and Implications Envisioned:

Transformational Growth and Healing: Evidence from various fields, including psychology, medicine, and spirituality, supports the transformative power of aligning with positive vibrational frequencies for personal and collective healing. Practices such as energy healing, mindfulness-based interventions, and holistic therapies have shown promising results in promoting well-being and unlocking untapped potentials within individuals. Interdimensional Communication and Exploration: While the concept of interdimensional communication may seem speculative, advancements in quantum computing, artificial intelligence, and consciousness studies hold promise for expanding our understanding of reality. By applying vibrational principles and consciousness techniques, individuals may theoretically explore and interact with alternate dimensions, enhancing our comprehension of the multidimensional nature of reality and fostering co-creative discovery. Conclusion:

In conclusion, the True Reality Framework offers a holistic understanding of the interconnected tapestry of existence, integrating empirical evidence from quantum mechanics, neuroscience, psychology, and cosmology. By embracing this framework, we gain insights into the fundamental truths of the universe and stand on the threshold of a new era of discovery and transformation. As we continue to explore the implications of this framework, may we unlock the full potential of our collective consciousness and co-create a future aligned with the vibrational harmony of existence.

This review provides a comprehensive overview of the True Reality Framework, grounding its principles and components in empirical evidence while highlighting its transformative implications for humanity.

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2024/03/17
12:57 UTC

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News Roundup for the weeks of Monday Feb 26th, and March 4th 2024

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2024/03/16
04:01 UTC

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Article (via Advanced Science News): Materialism Matters: The Role of Philosophy in Science. Thoughts?

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2024/03/09
22:45 UTC

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News Roundup for the weeks of Monday Feb 26th, and March 4th 2024

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2024/03/09
05:02 UTC

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Is Patricia Churchland's Neurophilosophy book still relevant ?

I am new to neurophilosophy and wonder if the book is still relevant given the studies done in neuroscience since its publication.

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2024/03/08
10:17 UTC

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What was the last good book/article/piece of media you recall related to neuroscience, psychology, or philosophy lately?

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2024/03/07
11:57 UTC

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Awake and Asleep Particles

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2024/03/05
01:16 UTC

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Article (via Advanced Science News): Materialism Matters: The Role of Philosophy in Science. Thoughts?

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2024/03/02
22:45 UTC

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Are humans wired for "just enough" rationality to "get by" in pursuing their perceived interests?

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2024/02/29
22:55 UTC

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Article (via Advanced Science News): Materialism Matters: The Role of Philosophy in Science. Thoughts?

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2024/02/24
22:45 UTC

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Where do "rights" come from, and how do you think definitions likely evolved along with human psychology and norms over the past several million years?:-)

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2024/02/24
22:14 UTC

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Do you know any other Neurophilosopher other than Patricia Churchland?

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2024/02/23
21:53 UTC

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Alex O'Connor and Robert Sapolsky on Free Will . "There is no Free Will. Now What?" (57 minutes)

Within Reason Podcast episodes ??? On YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgvDrFwyW4k

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2024/02/20
19:30 UTC

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A Dive into 'The 48 Laws of Power' (Book Summary)

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2024/02/17
21:25 UTC

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Sapiens: A Brief Journey Through Time (Book Summary)

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2024/02/17
21:19 UTC

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Exploring the Nature of Individuality and Consciousness

Imagine cloning oneself into nine identical 100% clones, each living the same lives with identical timelines and experiences. Would they perceive reality through twenty eyes, twenty ears, and ten mouths? Absolutely not. While each clone possesses its own individual experience, they share the same memories from different angles. If someone asked the clones who the original one experiencing reality is, they would all respond, "Me." What does this mean? It suggests that while we all have the same experience, it's perceived from different perspectives. The "I" becomes a veil in the mind because it cannot simultaneously perceive two states. You are all "I," and "I" am all of you. But why is only one "I" experiencing reality from my angle? Perhaps because it cannot inhabit two bodies, and this "I" randomly chose one. I'm not attempting to sound mystical, but what if there's only one conscious observer? What if this "I" encompasses both a tyrant and an activist? After death, this "I" would cease to exist, along with all memories and experiences, only for another "I" to select a random body, perpetuating an infinite loop of "I"s. The question of why this body is chosen over another remains mysterious—is it an act of randomness, or can we eventually reach a point where all of us can experience life from every perspective?

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2024/02/14
18:46 UTC

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Alex O'Connor and Robert Sapolsky on Free Will . "There is no Free Will. Now What?" (57 minutes)

Within Reason Podcast episodes ??? On YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgvDrFwyW4k

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2024/02/13
19:30 UTC

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Anyone familiar with Robert Sapolsky of primate psychology fame? What do you make of his work, and of his claims regarding free will? Any thoughts on the development of reason in human evolution ?

And how it differs from animals?

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2024/02/08
05:02 UTC

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Panpsychism Scientific Revolution

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2024/01/27
02:17 UTC

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Thoughts on the "Tu-Coque Fallacy" and others we might cognitivly be predisposed to? Why is fallacious reasoning so "natural " to us, unless we train ourselves to recognize the laws of reason/logic?

Darn you, typos....

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2024/01/21
22:59 UTC

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Neural Connectivity - A Universal Network Phenomenon ( article - neurosciencenews.com) - Thoughts?

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2024/01/20
12:16 UTC

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Connections game and how the brain searches

I would like to try and explain my view and wonder if there are any good sources people could recommend.

I'm always developing a model of how 'thinking' occurs. When playing the NYT Connections game today, I had a little click. For those who don't know the game, there are 16 words that must be grouped into 4 groups of 4. The groups are colour coded, and frequently the purple group is the last to be found. In many cases, these last four words still don't seem connected even though they are the only remaining words, and when the connection is revealed, the brain says "oh, right, obviously". This purple group generally is connected through a missing word that links the 4 known words...

I imagine that the brain is encoding information gleaned from the sense organs and interoception, into 'high dimensional arrays' that can be represented mathematically in certain geometries. We combine small 'simplicial complexes' in directed asymmetric graphs into larger constructs. This takes place on many scales, the activation of the largest of which is our waking conscious experience of a relatively low dimensional projection in the form 'the present moment' and all associated qualia.

I'm frequently amazed at the ability of the mind to select instances of these constructs from within innumerable combinations. We can 'think' and search our memory for specific constructs, generated on the fly, that link other constructs... Remember times you ate pizza recently, or recipes with tomatoes, peak emotional memories. In specialised areas of knowledge we can sort and compile in exactly the same way, with more specialised data points... Muscles that perform lateral rotation of the humerus, baseball pitchers with era under X, etc...

The incredible speed that we can think, the speed that these thoughts arise into cognition, involves manipulation of huge amounts of data very economically. One interesting mechanism is a kind of geometrical subtraction of these high dimensional complexes (maybe Minkowski inequalities?). This can occur not only to discover recipes calling for tomatoes, but also cases of prediction error correction, in which the construct that anticipated a future state efficiently signals errors.

These high dimensional constructs can be 'translated', and 'rotated'... Folded and overlapped, to quickly reveal to the mind the essential complexes of the current construct.

Memory is the sequential ordering of these constructs along a time dimensional construct, interestingly linked to the place grid cells... So situated in time and space in some deep neural complex.

So when playing connections, sometimes the most evident group of four appears immediately upon reading the 16 words. They are linked by a first order thread, say meaning, spelling, or sound. The last group of four, the four words remaining after finding the first three groups is frequently the purple group...a second order thread linking through a hidden variable.

I realised that while the subconscious does all this manipulation of the constructs, the first order associations are less costly metabolically to discover than the second order. The second order construct will rarely arise into cognition before the first order associations.

Because we have so much trouble visualising high dimensionnel geometries in our 3d cognitive projection, it's difficult to describe, but it seems to exist mathematically. I find it reflects largely what the connectome tells us about the small world architecture of the brain, and it reflects the dynamic nature of receiving, filtering, encoding, compressing, and variously pruning or retaining information in the form of metabolic signals, as memory, which becomes more non local the longer it is retained in the architecture.

Am I too far out in left field? Are there any neuro specialties that develop mathematical models of cognition along these lines?

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2024/01/20
11:01 UTC

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The problem (as I see it) with the “no free will” idea.

Not an argument but an opinion, happy to inspire debate. It’s not a new idea but still an intriguing one, but not one I myself am not ready to accept. And here is my rebuttal.

First let’s examine the origin of this idea, the CAUSE of it coming about. Born from Classical Newtonian mechanics, if we know the precise position, velocity and interaction of forces of every particle in a system at a given point in time then we can mathematically calculate the future state of that system at any time. This implies that the universe is fully governed by causation and its preceding states, it removes occurrences of chance and operates like clockwork. Applying this understanding to humanity, the laws of causation/neural mapping, and the concept of “no free will” was born via absolute determinism. We are all on a trajectory.

So why do I consider it a false claim? Let’s first examine the empiricist view that “nothing exists in the mind that wasn’t first in the senses”. This states that our senses dictate what our neural mapping will look like. We know that sensory experiences are subject to external influences and that the range of possibilities here are going to be infinite. We know that infinity is not an absolute number but rather a concept or idea. So how can a mathematical equation reconcile infinity down to an absolute value? It can’t, the best possible outcome will deal in probability. Probability breeds unpredictability, it’s not deterministic but rather stochastic. And unpredictability will lead to some lack of absolute determinism. This is why I say “no free will” is a false claim. The fact that there will always be an element of unpredictability underlines the fact that the trajectory can and will always be subject to change.

TLDR:

The infinite possible inputs combined with probabilistic effects on our senses/mind fosters an element of unpredictability that exceeds what strict casual determinism can accommodate. Or…

Infinity + Probability = Unpredictability > Determinism

Edit: strict “general” determinism

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2024/01/15
19:30 UTC

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Science vs 'magic' in life

Hello everyone, I wanted to get everyones opinions on a certain topic. I will go ahead and share mine, then hopefully there can be fascinating discussion:

As my studies in neuroscience continue, I become more and more stunned by the complexity of the human brain, and our microbiome in general. There are thousands and thousands of studies on thousands of different topics, and there have been conclusions made about why we are the way we are. It seems like there is an explanation for everything, why we think the way we think, why we act a certain way, why we make the decisions we make, how our bodies react to certain foods, etc. My question is this; How many of you that have acquired knowledge about our species, still believe in the 'magic' out there? For example, I know Huberman has talked about his strong belief in God, which goes against science. I like to believe that I have manifested a numerous amount of goals in my life that I have achieved, and it truly felt like magic. I know science can be crazy sometimes, i know there are people that live to 100 that have been smokers there whole lives, there are miracles that happen all the time out there, when someone somehow survived something that doctors say they shouldn't have, when I see photos of fires that ruined towns and cities, but a statue of a cross was the only standing thing left. I still believe in the magic of life, and the power of the universe. Is there any of you scientists out there that are very spiritual? I mean, you have to take a step back sometimes and go 'wow'. The creation of everything we experience in life on Earth is baffling. I want to know if some of you guys out there detach yourself from research and science sometimes, and really come to terms with the fact that there are some things that cannot be explained and are beyond science. I think this topic is so fascinating, the scientists that follow a rule book, but can also appreciate the things that go against science. Let me know your thoughts!

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2023/12/29
19:05 UTC

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