/r/MetisMichif

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The historic Métis Homeland of the North-West which emerged from the Red River and expanded westward! To discuss all things Métis-related. La patrie historique Métchif du Nord-Œust qui est née dans la Rivière Rouge et s'est étendue vers l'œust! Pour discuter de tout ce qui a trait aux Métis.

The Homeland of the Métis! To discuss all things Métis-related.

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1. Be Respectful

Many things are valued in our cultures, one of the biggest being the principle of respect. We ask you to please show respect in all aspects. In turn, you will receive respect.

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This subreddit advocates free speech and want see a multitude of viewpoints. Gross profanity and personal attacks are not necessary to make a point. We should all be mindful of our conduct.

Because somber topics are related to Métis issues and interests, this rule is considered principle and is flexible.

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/r/MetisMichif

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Michif swear words?

Anyone know of any Michif curse words? We all get upset sometimes, and speaking it out can be healthy, but available online resources I've found don't teach 'em, and I'm a learner. Meeqwetch & Maarsii cousins!

4 Comments
2024/10/29
23:44 UTC

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Traditional Métis Religion

I'm a religion nerd (specifically Christianity and its various denominations) I was looking into Métis belief and to my understanding it was a hodgepodge of different beliefs. There isn't much information on the specific traditions of the Métis other than mentions of syncretic elements and a folk catholicism there isn't as much detail as I would like. I'm Métis and want to see how my ancestors practiced and because the Métis are an interesting group in terms of history and Id really like to see how their worldview translated into how they practiced their faith. Does anyone know anything about it or have some sources I can dig into?

Edit: clarified my ending question

23 Comments
2024/10/23
07:18 UTC

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Random thoughts from the MMF’s AGA

The MMF is working on getting the V cards to be valid for crossing the Canada / US border under the Jay Treaty. We have fam in the US, so this makes sense.

One of the resolutions from Sunday touches upon research and our traditional knowledge. It looks to be aimed at bogus researchers who believe our ethnogenesis started in Mattawa, but could have unintended consequences for researchers throughout The Homeland.

We’re continuing to buy back Winnipeg.

The MMF is looking to extend housing benefits and programs outside of MB. They’ve started offering emergency housing to Beyond Borders citizens on a case by case basis. If you’re in cris, reach out directly to the MMF.

I think the plan is to have a drug plan that covers all citizens in Canada, but they’re working region to region in MB with pharmacies the MMF owns. This is a long play.

It was an upbeat meeting. But, in some ways, a little quiet. There really wasn’t much about the treaty and land claim. There was more discussion of real estate investments which, I know sets up financial independence down the road, but isn’t of immediate concern to most of us.

17 Comments
2024/10/21
17:06 UTC

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resource recommendations

hello, apologies if I am not doing this right, I've never used Reddit before. I am originally from BC currently living in Toronto, but my family has Red River ancestry back several generations. I've had my citizenship for several years, but my local branch was so small there wasn't much for learning resources. I'm in college for animation, and I am doing several projects based on indigenous history and storytelling, so I am curious if there is any book/resource recommendations for learning specifically about folklore? general history would also be appreciated since most of what I know was just taught from my grandmother who passed away.

5 Comments
2024/10/20
12:50 UTC

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Moon Teachings

Taanishi! Good day All!

I was wondering if we Metis have anything similar to the 13 Moon Teachings of First Nations like the Anishinaabe? I was also wondering if Inuit have similar teachings?

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2024/10/18
17:28 UTC

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any taylor’s/steven’s out there ?

im looking to find relatives!

my gg grandmother was sarah harriot taylor from st. andrews. her parents are sarah stevens and edward prince taylor. i have my tree done by st boniface historical society and am awaiting citizenship from the MMF!

we’ve been disconnected for two generations (my dad’s grandma chose not to share this part of her to the family). i’m born in 2000.

maarsii!!

9 Comments
2024/10/17
03:34 UTC

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Looking for relatives

I’ve spent the last two years intensely researching my family history and was wondering if any of you folks share the same family names as myself: Huppé, Vandal and Berard are the three dominant names but I also have ancestors from the Cyr, Charbonneau, Nault, and Lagimodiere lines. Most of my ancestors resided in Ste. Anne, St Vital and St Boniface parishes. :)

15 Comments
2024/10/16
18:55 UTC

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Mothers of the Resistance 1869-1870 on Wordpress

Does anyone know what happened with this site? I just checked and it's gone?! (gone ie deleted with the usual Wordpress notice about this)

4 Comments
2024/10/15
16:24 UTC

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Echoes of Abuse Part 1: Origin Story

Echoes of Abuse Part 1: Origin Story 8 years ago I was homeless, for 8 months 8th grade I was bullied and nick named Green Ass I lived in a Culvert. In French Cul=Ass Vert=Green 8th month of 2024, Aug 31 I make the realization that my Multiple Sclerosis is connected to the abuse suffered upon me by my Abusers 8=2+0+2+4 or 2024 8x5=40 on October 31 I turn 40 ⅛ of my Biological Mother is Cree/French or Métis? 🎱8️⃣ ♾️ What does it all mean? Is the universe aligning? Why am I seeing 8 everywhere? The Métis symbol, the sideways 8 ♾️ infinity... Is it a coincidence? Perhaps I'll never know. We're trained to recognize patterns, could it mean something more?

This is Part 1 of an ongoing series of videos I'm producing, on the quest to discover my Cree/Métis roots, and ultimately, my biological mother. Follow along, if you care. I'm bad at asking for help, I fear rejection. So reaching out is hard. I feel so alone sometimes, but I know I'm going to need help. Help me, so I can help others, to share my story, and my continuing story. To provide insight and wisdom, and help shelter those from the pain I've endured. Thanks for reading.

I don't normally like to plug on Reddit, but this is a deeply personal story, which I'd like to share. You can follow @ richjander on YouTube, Instagram or TikTok if you're interested. I'm working on, and will be posting Part 2 on all platforms. So look out for Part 2: Where I delve into Ego Death, Meditation, Psychedelics, Spirituality, Religion, God, the meaning of life, Death & Rebirth 🐦‍🔥 It's going to get really heavy, and won't be for the faint of heart. But it is a lesson and teachings I feel I must provide, that I have been tasked with, whether by my own 🧠 or some almighty creator 🙏I believe the lessons I've learned are not just within myself, but within all of us. Perhaps, every rock 🥌 tree 🎄 and creature 🦑 has a voice, has a spirit, has a name.

2 Comments
2024/10/11
15:02 UTC

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Sickle and Sash podcast

My friend has started a podcast. It’s about politics and the Michif people.

7 Comments
2024/10/09
20:20 UTC

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LEGO beading project

Our latest episode is up with Lisa Shepherd and LEGO - talking about the collab we did with a flower, dot piece - beading with LEGO bricks! Photos here: https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=999913821938676&id=100057602012911

Link here: to the episode: https://www.mnbc.ca/news-events/metis-speaker-series/connecting-art-and-identity

4 Comments
2024/10/08
18:01 UTC

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Kina8at is a fraudulent organization that is mass producing pretendians

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2024/10/02
18:39 UTC

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Michif last name?

Taanshi! I’ve been learning southern Michif (classes, online, reading, finding others learning, etc) and wading through identity stuff and wanted some.. community feedback maybe?

The run down is that I’m Metis, my father adopted at the tail of the 60s Scoop, and his mother adopted during it as well seventeen years earlier- both adopted into white families disconnected from their Indigenous identity (we’re still unsure where my bio grandmother is from exactly though know she isn’t white, and we know my bio grandfather is.. deeply Metis). I’ve been the one to do the work of reconnecting and finding bio families and tracing bloodlines, going to ceremony, learning Michif, how to hunt and trap, etc. My mother grew up in foster care to boot. I don’t feel connected to my last name. Or either last name I could have been given on my paternal side bio or adopted, or my mom’s last name, nor the one she was originally born with and was made to change in care.

I’ve been thinking of changing my last name to a southern Michif word. I’m doing the work of reconnecting as right of a way as I can, and I’m hoping to raise my children with Michif. Is that.. ridiculous? Or read poorly? Do you know someone who has done this? I’m not set on it yet, I just don’t really have anyone in the community I feel close enough to chat to about this with and discuss who might get the nuances of it all.

Maarsii!!

2 Comments
2024/10/02
03:45 UTC

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Excerpt from Maria Campbell's "Half-breed" regarding her time in Beauval residential school

12 Comments
2024/09/30
17:42 UTC

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If you are mixed. It does not mean you are Metis.

So many people on here seem to be confused about what being Metis means. It's not because you have one parent that is FN and one parent that isn't that you are Metis. Yous are just a mixed FN. The lack of education and confusion surrounding this nation & identity is insane. The amount of cultural and identity fraud done by descendians, fétis and full on pretendians has got to stop. ITS FRAUD

It's hurting the very same communities you claim to be part of. If this post calls you out then you should seriously reconsider your cultural identity. It's possible to be an ally without culturally appropriating. Smh... On this day too

This is a form of modern colonization

67 Comments
2024/09/30
15:35 UTC

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am I allowed to wear my sash for truth and reconciliation day?

6 Comments
2024/09/30
14:00 UTC

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This server being an asshat with racist comments or is this someone’s actual relative? Gotham Steakhouse Vancouver BC

If this

10 Comments
2024/09/28
21:30 UTC

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Fétis overrunning our spaces

This sub seems to be a place for non-Métis to come in and argue with us about what we are and who we are and insert their "facts". On a recent thread, there was a paid advertisement for MNO facts (insane). We have people claiming their ancestors were mixed people out east and therefore predate us so they should be included in the definition of being Métis. This sub doesn't even feel like it's for us anymore. We are The Flower Beadwork People, The Otipemisiwak, Louis Riel's People, Méchif People, the Métis. Our ancestors fought and died for our nation. So many of our people fought and died for our place on these lands. These people that come in to instigate arguments and to "educate" us need to find somewhere else to go. They are willfully ignorant or malicious, no idea which. I hope this analogy fits, but this is what it feels like to spend most of our time defending our culture.

Person A (Métis person): [Holding up an orange t-shirt] "This t-shirt is orange. It represents a true Métis person, with deep roots in the Red River Settlement and its history."

Person B (Confused individual): "No, that's not a t-shirt, that's an orange. If it's orange, it must be the fruit. So anyone who is part Indigenous and part European is a Métis person."

Person A: "I can see why you'd think that because they share the same name, but they're different things. The t-shirt's color, orange, represents a specific identity—just like the true Métis people. It’s about where it comes from and what it represents, not just its appearance."

Person B: "But if they both look orange, why aren't they the same?"

Person A: "Because one is about color, and the other is about being a fruit. Just like the Métis identity is about historical and cultural roots, not just mixed ancestry. The t-shirt may be orange in color, but that doesn’t make it a fruit. Similarly, having mixed ancestry doesn’t automatically make someone Métis. It’s about the specific history and community tied to that identity."

Person B: "So just because something looks like it belongs doesn't mean it actually does?"

Person A: "Exactly. It’s important to understand the history and context, not just what’s on the surface. The color and the fruit share a name, but they’re not the same—just like how being mixed doesn’t automatically make someone Métis."

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2024/09/28
13:14 UTC

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Who issued this card?

Taanishi faamii! I Found this when going through my late grandma’s things and I’m super interested to know if this was an old government issued card or maybe from MNOC or MNBC before a name change or something? Would love to hear any information anyone has! Maarsii!

6 Comments
2024/09/26
06:33 UTC

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Regina

Taanishi! Good day everyone,

I am going to be in Regina and I wanted to go to the site of Riel's trial. The only historical records I can find state that the trial occurred at the RCMP barracks and I was wondering if that is the present day location or somewhere else.

Maarsii

3 Comments
2024/09/14
16:39 UTC

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I was at Miniature World in Victoria, BC

There's a giant train display - going through all the Provinces describing each Province - when you come to Manitoba - this sign is shown. How would you suggest a re-write for the facility?

I'd love to submit one.

https://preview.redd.it/hm2tuo4u9nod1.png?width=1018&format=png&auto=webp&s=72bb5166c875fcf52eff658ccdb2bc9822354537

2 Comments
2024/09/13
21:28 UTC

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Looking for Opinions and Advice on My Specific Situation

Okay. I’ve read a hundred different articles and a million different opinions on various platforms about what it means to be Métis. I am aware of the tactics of Pretendians, the “Fétis,” and the controversies surrounding the Eastern Woodland Folk as well as the MNO. I understand the deep passion and struggle involved here. But I would be lying if I said that it didn’t all make me quite uneasy and discouraged.

I am a 23F and have lived in Ontario my whole life. I was born into a very unique adoption situation (not one that is directly related to indigenous displacement in Canada). My Dad was adopted himself from an Irish woman by an older French Canadian couple, he was technically first generation Canadian but had no cultural identity himself. My mother who raised me gave birth to me, but she had an egg donor since she was a much older mother. I have no biological connection to my Birth Mother. My true Biological Mother has stayed in contact with my family my whole life, and when my twin brother and I were told about her when we were around 13, we subsequently had a brief conversation with her where she told us we were Métis. It was not something that came up often in our lives, we grew up with virtually no cultural identity that was truly our own due to my Dad’s adoption and our lack of a blood connection to our Mom. My brother and I are also both white passing for the most part, although sometimes not. I didn’t really see the need for one, a cultural identity, although God knows I felt its absence.

Then, almost 3 years ago now, my Dad passed away suddenly. I was devastated, but am lucky enough to have great support systems around me that continue to get me through his loss. Still, losing my Dad was the catalyst to a full-blown cultural identity crisis for me. That and I guess being in my early twenties. I have been feeling the ache of having no community with which to bond with on foundational characteristics/ways of life. I would always think “well, at least I have my Dad and my brother,” for this, and when I lost my Dad, it felt like the sense of security I found in that thought had virtually vanished.

I started looking into my ancestry. My Dad’s side was unfortunately a huge dead end because of his adoption and the lack of Irish genealogical documentation available to me. But my biological Mom’s side has been vastly informative. My Maternal Grandfather’s side has been in Ontario and Quebec for hundreds of years with 6 French-Native Intermarriages occurring in his bloodline between the 1650s-1920s. My Maternal Grandmother’s line, however, is most recently from North Western Ontario but came from Alberta in the early 1900s. My great great grandmother and her mother before her identified as French HBs on Canadian census records. The maiden name of my 3rd great grandmother was Calihoo. All and only through my Maternal biological grandmother.

Just to be fully clear and transparent, my ancestors on my biological Maternal Grandmothers side are Indigenous to Alberta. My First Nations Ancestors through her bloodline were Cree, and then intermarriages with French Europeans happened to where their descendants began to identify as French Half Breeds on census records. These ancestors of mine were Albertan Métis from the Buffalo Lake area.

I am grateful for what I have found in all of my ancestral research, and am excited to look further into the French Canadian roots on my Maternal grandfathers side. However, being Métis through my Maternal Grandmother is another part of my biological heritage, and it is one that I do not take lightly. The idea of being validated in my cultural identity by the provincial representatives of the Métis community is a unique opportunity for me as someone who has had no cultural identity whatsoever. It is also a tangible community, one that this side of my ancestry is a part of. And one that I have technically inherited the ability to identify with from them… right?

I have applied to the MNO, and they have said this: “Thank you for your patience regarding questions around obtaining MNO citizenship through an egg donor's lineage. There has been work on considering various aspects of donor conception cases that may help the MNO develop a clear policy on this for the future. The Powley decision and various legal and policy documents have contributed to the discussion on this important issue, and it's my understanding that the MNO may be developing a related policy in the years ahead. The MNO Registry will follow such a policy once it is in place. However, currently you do not qualify for citizenship based on the proposed connection to the egg donor for the reasons previously communicated.” The reasons ‘previously communicated’ were that my biological mother was not my birth mother. What I take from this is that there is not enough policy to give me a true answer on whether or not I qualify for citizenship. I did all the work, I connected myself to my biological mother through her egg donor agreement with my parents, I connected her to her mother (who does not identify), all the way up to my first identifying Métis ancestor, using verifiable documentation like census records, marriage, birth, and death certificates. None of this information seems to be contested whatsoever. But my connection to my Biological mother remains a roadblock. I don’t understand.

Now, during this purgatory time while I pursue further communication on my application, I don’t know how to identify. I don’t wish to have opportunities bestowed on me due to my ethnicity. I don’t wish to make my future career all and only about being Métis. What I want is to be able to identify with all parts of my ancestry and continue to reconnect/explore my biologically-inherited culture. But I have things like school applications coming up. I want to identify with my lineage on these, but I honestly dont know what to do at this point.

I also wonder what happens for me if my application to the MNO is ultimately deemed inconclusive and I continue to identify as Métis. If, say, I were to gain a big platform and many people know my name, and I was asked about my cultural identity/ethnicity, I would want to explain that I am Métis through my Biological mother who was an egg donor to my Mother who raised me. I would say that I applied for citizenship but the egg donorship proved to be a policy-related road block. Would people start hounding me for my Biological mother’s info?? I don’t think it’s at all my place to disclose her personal information, she has been nice enough to tell me about her family and my bloodline through her, but at the end of the day that information is not mine to tell publicly. And if I can’t disclose my Métis lineage because of this, for others to then go through and verify, what then??

Like I said, all I want is to be able to identify with all parts of my heritage. I say now that I am Irish, French, and Métis. I do not share the same hardships/experiences as those who grew up more culturally-involved, I know that. I would never and have never sought out advantages and opportunities that were more meant for those individuals. Still, I don’t know where I stand. I don’t know what’s meant for me and what isn’t. I don’t want to hurt anyone by going through my life identifying this way, especially without possibly being able to prove it, and having opportunities come to me because of it. I don’t know. It has been so rewarding exploring this side of my heritage and I want to continue to. But the more I continue the more I will identify with it. If anyone could please give me their opinions on the best course of action for me and their advice/opinions on my circumstance overall, I am definitely all ears.

11 Comments
2024/09/06
04:37 UTC

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