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From Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, and Gary Goetzman--Masters of the Air is a World War II drama miniseries based on the actions of the airmen who risk their lives with the 100th Bomb Group, and a brotherhood forged by courage, loss, and triumph.

A place to discuss the Apple TV+ WWII miniseries Masters of the Air.


Episode Discussions:

Episode 1 and 2

Episode 3

Episode 4

Episode 5

Episode 6

Episode 7

Episode 8

Episode 9

The Bloody Hundredth


Making Masters of the Air Official Podcast


100th BG Foundation Officially Licensed Apparel


Episode Availability Dates:

  • Part 1 - Friday, January 26, 2024

  • Part 2 - Friday, January 26, 2024

  • Part 3 - Friday, February 2, 2024

  • Part 4 - Friday, February 9, 2024

  • Part 5 - Friday, February 16, 2024

  • Part 6 - Friday, February 23, 2024

  • Part 7 - Friday, March 1, 2024

  • Part 8 - Friday, March 8, 2024

  • Part 9 - Friday, March 15, 2024

  • The Bloody Hundredth - March 15, 2024


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now that it's been a while, can we admit this show really wasn't that good?

i've gone back and re-watched BoB more times than I can count. Even Pacific gets rewatches. But MotA? I have not had an urge to rewatch it a single time. The show just feels sterile. Lifeless. I am incredible disappointed to say this was a let down. I could go on, about the lackluster writing, the forgettable characters, the absence of a real story, but that's basically my thoughts.

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2024/12/01
16:22 UTC

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Singing 'MASTERS of the AIR' Main Theme 'Soar'

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2024/12/01
10:36 UTC

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Other good quality ww2 media?

So recently, me and a small group of friends watched Band of Brothers, the Pacific and Masters of the air in timeline order, intertwining the series together. We enjoyed this and now have decided to do the same thing but on a bigger scale, including series and movies in a "watch from the beginning of the war to the end of the war on screen"

Ideally we want to watch stuff that is not super old and is still of similar production quality to band of brothers (admittedly, this will be hard the longer the list gets) but we are open to anything good no matter the age.

We've so far put down everything we can think of. Some of it we haven't seen, but watched a trailer and thought It'd be worth a watch. So our question is, is there anything else we should add to the list? Or anything we should remove? Any good post war or resistance/spy movies we should Chuck in there?

Some of the dates are wrong and or not super accurate, we just mapped out a rough timeline and we will fix closer to the time! And some of the movies obviously span the whole duration of the war, so we opted to put them when the opening of the movie starts in the timeline. Or where we think makes sense.

Excuse any typos, am on mobile and have fat fingers*

This is what we have thus far:

1939 - The Pianist

1940 - Imatation game, a call to spy, Dunkirk

April 1940 - Narvick, Flame and Citron

May 1940 - Darkest hour

July 1940 - Will

Spring 1941 - Rogue heroes

1941 - Killing Heydrich, Defiance and Pearl harbor, The resistance banker

October 1941 - The final stand, Das boot

Late 1941 - ministry of urgentlemanly warfare, Resistance

December 1941 - Pearl Harbor & Tora tora tora

Feb 1942 - Greyhound

1942 - & Band ep1 pacific ep1 and 2 &, Oppenheimer, a boy in striped pyjamas

November 1942 - Enemy at the gates, Stalingrad

June 1942 - Midway, Thin red line

1942 - U571

Jan 1943 - Pacific ep 3

March 1943 - 12th Man

Spring 1943 - Masters ep1 & 2, Rogue heroes season 2

April 1943 - Unbroken

May 1943 - Memphis belle, schindlers list

July 1943 - Operation mincemeat

August 1943 - Masters ep3

October 1943 - Masters ep4, 5 & 6

December 1943 - Pacific ep4, The book thief

March 1944 - Masters ep7

June 1944 - Saving aprivate Ryan Masters ep 8 band ep 2 and 3 and pacific ep 5

July 1944 - Valkyrie, Windtalkers, Red tails

September 1944 - a bridge too far, band ep 4 & 5 and pacific 6, The forgotten battle

October 1944 - Pacific ep 7.

December 1944 - Band ep 6 and 7 and 8

Feb 1945 - Pacific ep8. & the six triple eight

March 1945 - Flags of our fathers, the bombardment, letters from iwo jima

April 1945 - Fury, the captain, Downfall & Band ep9

May 1945 - Hacksaw ridge & Pacific ep 9

1945 - Masters ep9 Band ep 10 Pacific ep10

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2024/11/30
11:55 UTC

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[N25Y] The Flying Bulls Lockheed P-38 Lightning

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2024/11/23
17:52 UTC

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Masters of the Air, Animated Mighty 8th Series

Me and my YouTube friend HiddenHistory are designing and creating history of the combined bomber offensive, with a special focus on the mighty 8th! If interested check it out and let me know what you think!!

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2024/11/22
05:23 UTC

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8th Air Force fighter pilots vs. Luftwaffe - November 1944

0:25, P-51 pilot flys through telephone wires.

1:54, Chuck Yeager gun camera from November 27, 1944. Claims four Fw 190s destroyed in air to air combat.

3:45, massive fuel/oil train car explosion.

5:55, P-51 pilot clips top of trees and keeps going.

6:20, famous gun camera shot of Fw 190 getting it's left wing blown off.

6:38, German pilot bails out of a Fw 190D-9. Canopy and pilot clearly seen.

7:29, William Whisner credited with six Fw 190s destroyed on this mission, all six kills are seen here. Engagement takes place at high altitude near bomber streams.

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2024/11/21
17:48 UTC

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The Book

Reading it while listening to background sounds of the hum of B-17 sounds on YouTube. Thick reading so this helps drown out distractions in the house.

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2024/11/17
19:57 UTC

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A good book about bombers and airplanes around WWII

https://preview.redd.it/pqxs3wey0m0e1.png?width=181&format=png&auto=webp&s=43a24edc87da5b94bd7ddce5db18db846cb717e8

Hi there, I am writing this post because I read a lot of you were aviation enthusiasts. While it is not directly related to B-17, Ernest K. Gann book is nonetheless among the best books I read about WWII airplanes.

It is about the pilots who delivered materials from USA to UK by airplane during the war. It begins some time before WWII with civilian aviation and then through WWII.

The amazing thing with this book are the sheer amount of tiny details that one can only get through direct experience, stuff about coil flaps getting stuck, fine tuning motors during long flights, feelings one can get on the job, etc. A bit like MOTA is about the big picture of daylight bombing and Catch-22 is about the nonsense of the army, Fate is the hunter fits right in between, told in a way that makes it really relatable.

It's a real gem and you should definetely read it (Avoid the movie at all costs)

Another cool book I read as a kid is "Mitrailleur dans la R.A.F." by Léon A. Terlinden, which is about a belgian guy that fled to england and became a gunner in a Lancaster bomber, but I don't think it has ever been translated. (which is a shame because it's a really cool story)

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2024/11/13
06:17 UTC

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does anyone know any similar shows to MOTA?!

i’ve rewatched this show several times and watched Band of Brothers, along with The Pacific. as much as i love every show i would love to know if there’s any shows or movies or any kind of media that’s remotely similar to MOTA mentioned b-17’s

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2024/11/09
17:47 UTC

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does anyone know any similar shows to MOTA?!

i’ve rewatched this show several times and watched Band of Brothers, along with The Pacific. as much as i love every show i would love to know if there’s any shows or movies or any kind of media that’s remotely similar to MOTA mentioned b-17’s

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2024/11/09
17:47 UTC

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Uniform changes?

In episode 4 (I think) during the celebration for Dye making it through his tour, Egan has a different uniform shirt to Cleven, why is that? Cleven had a darker shirt and tie whereas Egan had the lighter tie.

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2024/11/08
22:06 UTC

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Master list of all combat missions the 8th flew?

I’ve looked all over online for one but does anyone know if there is or close to a list of every single bombing mission the 8th flew all complied into a single list? Even better if it says what Bomb groups were involved in what missions. There are hundreds of smaller missions the 8th flew like hitting small targets in France that are not well covered or written up on. Thanks!

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2024/11/08
21:42 UTC

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Budget for leather jackets???

I just watched this show for the first time. I loved it!! I couldn't help think what possibly could have been the budget spent on leather jackets. $1 million???? Haha maybe not but close

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2024/11/08
04:54 UTC

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Question about Sandra Wesgate

Just a quick question here. Was she a real person, that existed, or was she fictional? Or based on a real person? The series used some real people so I'd like to believe that. Was the affair with Crosby real?

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2024/11/02
05:09 UTC

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Cockpit seats writings

Does anyone know what is all that info on the seat headrests? Watched the series twice and still can't figure! 😅

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2024/10/26
17:00 UTC

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What happened after Africa?

After they landed in Africa, what happened? Did the fly back having a series of missions? I wish they would have shown that.

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2024/10/26
02:31 UTC

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What happened to Crank?

I’ve watched it twice and just like BoB and The Pacific there are a lot of characters to keep up with. Crank flew in the mission that only Rosie made it right? Did he become a POW, or was his fort one of the ones that aborted due to mechanical issues?

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2024/10/21
13:08 UTC

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Jacket question

Does anyone know the quality of Austin Butlers' jacket that is sold by Prime Jackets? I am wanting to get one, but I don't want to waste my money on some cash-grab bull crap.

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2024/10/21
01:49 UTC

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[124485] Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress Sally B the only flying B17 in the world

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2024/10/19
19:55 UTC

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Show awards and nomination

Was the Sound Mixing the only thing this show got awarded for or will there be upcoming awards shows we just haven't yet seen?

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2024/10/15
06:45 UTC

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The one thing I will always love about this show

So the characters were a little hard to follow since they were wearing masks and called each other by their positions rather than their names when in combat.

But that's historically accurate

And the timeline was way more spread out across a number of years, far more than Band of Brothers or any other comparable WWII series/movie.

But that's historically accurate

And then there's the one thing that gets me... it's almost historically accurate. I've never seen any media that has portrayed the absolute horror that bomber crews faced doing daylight raids over Germany. They were slaughtered without regard.

My grandfather flew P38 escorts with these dudes. He wasn't shy about his stories, he said every flight he saw a dozen men die, a flight every day, no weekends, for years. Shot down twice, I have some of his gear that still has German dirt stuck in it. It was absolutely batshit brutal up there. An uncle also wasn't shy about his stories either, he was in the airborne and dropped on Normandy. He'd seen a few friends die in person, but he said watching a dozen of your friends die in a single random fireball was just misery. Great way to start the war.

Just wanted to point out that even though they were wearing fancy coats and nice hats, these guys were getting chewed to bits just as fast as the boys on the ground... and they did it every day without hesitation, despite watching their closest friends explode on every mission.

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2024/10/15
04:38 UTC

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MOTA podcast nominated for best TV/Film pod

Making Masters of the Air podcast by The National WWII Museum is up for best TV/Film podcast... anyone can vote here! https://vote.signalaward.com/PublicVoting#/2024/shows/general/television-film

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2024/10/14
15:29 UTC

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Masters of the Air fav episode

In your opinion, which was the best episode and why? Which was the weakest and why? What would you have done/shown differently?

In my opinion, the third and fifth episodes were the best because they show the brutality of the fight and how skilled you have to be to keep your head on your shoulders.

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2024/10/14
09:41 UTC

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Yesss. #flyarmy

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2024/10/11
00:08 UTC

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B-17 crew

Air crew posing on Jeep in front of B-17F 'Our Gang' of 324th BS, 91st BG, US 8th Air Force, Bassingbourn, England, United Kingdom, 15 Jun 1943

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2024/10/08
21:20 UTC

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