This is a theory that has been bubbling in my head for a few months (thanks to a couple fanfics I've been writing) but I can't help but to think that, in-universe, that this could be the reason that various Norse gods look different between the MCU and their mythologies.

And it is because characters like Fandrall, Volstagg, and Amora pretended to be Loki, Thor, and Lady Sif respectively. Take a look...

How Volstagg, Fandrall, and Amora the Enchantress impersonated Thor, Loki, and Sif respectively.

In the first Thor film, it is alluded that the gang has visited Earth several times and gotten mortals to worship them as gods. Many of these visits would likely have occured in the decades or century after Odin defeated Laufey. The real Loki would still be very young around this time, but Thor would have been around 500. We don't know the ages of Sif and the Warriors three, but they could have been active during the first initial trips. While Fandrall is not the trickster Loki would become, I could easily see him being mischievous enough to come up with the idea to tell us mortals that he was Loki. Volstagg could be the one to present himself as Thor. Amora the Enchantress could have pretended to be Lady Sif.

If Thor is willing to have Loki play the role of DB Cooper (see the Loki Series S1E1), I could see him and his friends going along with this scheme.

I know Amora the Enchantress has yet to appear in the MCU (and Taika Watiti missed out on having her appear in LaT, especially in a cameo as one of Thor's past lovers in Korg's opening monologue), but nothing outright rules out her existance in the MCU.

Note: Flaired as MCU because in the comics, there is enough lore to rule this out.

So much about this Agatha Harkness's character has been left unanswered, it's both intriguing and frustrating that we will have to wait so long to get a more complete picture of here.

What continues to be left as loose ends are:

• What is her siphoning power?
• Where did it come from?
• How did she meet Lady Death?
• Who is Nick's father, is there a father?
• How did she get the darkhold?

I'm going to assume that the vast majority of us entered into Agatha All Along, naturally, expecting the series to answer all of these - but I believe they are left these all unanswered because Agatha as an MCU character has deep connections to even larger future MCU players - particularly those from the dark fantasy aspect of the MCU.

Years ago, Fiege pointed out that Avengers: End Game had been plotted out all the way back during the production of the first Iron Man. If the MCU has remained true to this meticulous form of planning for the franchise - it's likely that bigger things are already being planned for the dark fantasy aspect of the franchise and Agatha's complete backstory can not be revealed until later.

All this to say, I don't believe the "him" she referred to during that out burst is her son... I believe, yes I am going to say the M word so prepare yourself, I think the "him" she can not face is Mephisto.

I think Mephisto may have had a hand in not only Nick's creation, but also why she was so bloodthirsty and why she had the Darkhold.

I don't believe she is referring to her son, because she didn't hide anything from him during his life. She did not kill witches behind his back and pretend to be a saint to his face. Nick knew what his mother was doing, and Agatha justified it to herself and said the same to her son.

I don't believe she has any reason to fear reuniting with Nick... and if my theory is true - who then does she fear reuniting with?

I think we could see the MCU using some existing things within their universe to set up the Mutant saga and the animosity towards mutants.

I'd imagine they could easily have the world turn on mutants/supers if they are mostly a new factor after Secret Wars. People could understandably be sick of all these wolrd changing events and use Mutants as a scapegoat for that animosity. I mean look at how immigrants and trans people are a scapegoat (don't get political with me plz)

I could see the Department of Damage Control being the key government agency that leads to Sentinels.

Bruce's inhibitor technology could be used on mutants to supress their powers.

After the introduction of Johnny Storm in the Void and Alioth’s role in Loki, there’s a compelling theory that Alioth might be a reworked or "tamed" version of Galactus, the devourer of worlds, now under Kang’s control in the MCU's multiverse.

Here’s how it breaks down:

Alioth’s Role in the MCU:

Alioth is a massive cloud-like entity in Loki, consuming timelines and realities that no longer align with Kang's vision for the multiverse. It serves as a tool to maintain stability by erasing deviating timelines and preventing chaos within the Void, a place where timelines are discarded.

Galactus: The Devourer of Worlds

Traditionally, Galactus consumes entire planets to sustain himself and maintain balance in the universe. He’s one of Marvel’s most iconic cosmic entities, known for his hunger for planetary resources.

The Connection:

Cloud-like Appearance (in the Fox Fantastic Four movie): Both Alioth and Galactus have a swirling, cloud-like appearance, though the latter is specifically depicted this way in the Fox Fantastic Four movie. In the film, Galactus is shown as a massive cosmic cloud, rather than a humanoid form, similar to Alioth's ethereal look.

Function: Both have a consuming nature. Alioth devours timelines, while Galactus consumes planets. Their roles seem to align with maintaining balance (in their respective ways).

The Void and the Multiverse:

Johnny Storm’s quick appearance in the Void shows that the Fantastic Four universe ended up in the Void.

With the multiverse expanding, timelines may be "overflowing" or getting out of control. This is where Alioth, a potentially tamed Galactus, comes in. Kang, as a master of time, could have found a way to bend Galactus to his will, using him to consume or "clean up" the excess timelines that threaten the stability of the multiverse.

Why This Makes Sense:

Kang, seeking control over the multiverse, would need a way to manage the constant branching of realities. The Void serves as a place for these unwanted timelines to go, and Alioth (as a reworked Galactus) is tasked with keeping things under control by consuming those timelines.

This version of Galactus as Alioth could be a cosmic force under Kang's rule, keeping the multiverse in check while maintaining the overall structure of reality, at least until something causes it to break free.

Could This Be the MCU’s Galactus?

If Alioth truly represents an alternate version of Galactus, it’s a brilliant way to introduce the character into the MCU without immediately jumping into his classic "planet-eater" persona. Instead, we could see a version of Galactus that has been recontextualized for the MCU's multiverse saga.

Eventually, Galactus might break free from Kang’s control, setting up a future conflict where he returns to his original form, consuming planets once more, but now with the added complication of multiversal chaos.

TL;DR: Alioth in Loki could be a reworked, tamed version of Galactus, now serving as a tool for Kang to manage the expanding multiverse. Both entities have similar consuming natures—Alioth devours timelines, Galactus devours planets—and with the multiverse becoming more chaotic, Alioth/Galactus may be used to "clean up" rogue realities. This could be a clever way for the MCU to introduce Galactus, eventually setting him up for a return to his classic form.

Denzel Washington was rumored for Dr Strange 3 prior to the actor announcing he’d be joining Black Panther 3 …

What if he’s a sorcerer that could commune with the dead, and even take a trip to the ancestral plain ?!?!

1. What If... The Avengers all Got Iron Man Suits

2. What If... The Soviets Went On A Roadtrip

3. What If... Westerns

4. What If... Agatha Joined The Eternals

5. What If... Storm Was Worthy

6. What If... Kaecilius Became Sorcerer Supreme

7. What If ... The Other Half Got Snapped (White Vision Episode - Wanda died trying to kill Thanos sending Vision crazy)

8. What If... The Watcher Was Put On Trial

Order is probably wrong but from the trailer, this is a guess

The original Avengers was a team of 5 but Antman and the Wasp was initially meant to be included so for a potential Young Avengers team I give a generous 7 slots.

In order of introduction we have

Cassie Lang

Billy Kaplan

Tommy Shepard

Eli Bradley (Patriot)

Kid Loki

Kate Bishop

America Chavez

Kamala Khan

Skaar (Hulk's son)

Riri Williams (Ironheart)

Hulking (inevitable character due to his relationship with Wiccan)

Now we know for certain we are going to have Kamala Khan, Kate Bishop and Cassie Lang.

There are some speculations that of who will not be included that I have.

Kid Loki was a one time character and the actor has since grown up so I doubt he come back.

Skaar is definitely for the World War Hulk movie not the Young Avengers team.

While Hulking will be introduce eventually he def won't in time for Young Avengers so he might be in a Champions series.

Eli Bradley was hardly set up and now is reportedly not appearing in Cap Amercia 4 so while it possible he might join by the time he actually gets powers I don't see his inclusion in the YA line up. But I do see Miss Amercia as the YA version of Captain Amercia instead of Patriot.

This is all speculation and I am still speculating. Any of you guys have opinions or conclusions to draw .

So I know the 1610 Ultimate universe used these textboxes and this is just held over to remind us that the maker is from 1610. But for some reason my brain wants to believe that there is a specific Accent that is ever so slightly different from the main universe ones. I can't tell you how it would change their voice. but my brain chooses to think it's there.

In Wanda Vision series they mention being able to track the vibranium decay signal within the hex. Which is how they find Vision (fake vision). This is supposed to take place in 2023.

In Wakanda Forever (and other MCU films) it's mentioned that vibranium is difficult (near impossible to detect). This is supposed to take place early 2025.

Theory is that SWORD had obtained this technology from Iron Heart/Riri Williams earlier than shared in her film.

Either that or it's a continuity error

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This is only gonna be quick but rewatching ‘Agatha All Along’ and in episode 7 when Lilia sacrifices herself we only see 5 of the Salem Seven die with her and in previous shots there were only 5 in the room. So, here’s my theory, what if two of the seven made it off the road and, if so, who are they? I’m not great with the supernatural side of Marvel comics so please let me know if any of this is wrong and also list some magic users in marvel because I have no idea who they could be except maybe one of them being Morgan Le Fay. We know we’re going to see Billy again at some point probably on his search for Tommy with Agatha’s ghost so I wonder if they will be the villains of a solo Wiccan project?

(Not sure what flair to put this under)

So with Agatha almost over we so far learn about the importance of color and how they're starting to take their place in accordance to the stone colors.

Green/Time: Loki(Overseer of Time) Red/Reality: Wanda(Can bend reality at her will) Purple/Power: Agatha(Amplifies her power by the use of others) Blue/Space: Billy(Can transfer soul? Idk I'm still trying to figure it out)

Who do you think are the final characters with the final colors and what roles do you think they'll fill?

In the X-Men movie "Days of Future Past", the character Kitty Pryde who can phase through solid matter, was suddenly capable of sending other characters' minds into versions of their own bodies, at other points in time. This new ability came suddenly without explanation after a time-jump in the story.

About a decade later, in the movie "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness", Wanda uses the Darkhold (spooky evil magic book) to cast her mind into other variant versions of herself, in other timelines.

I merely theorize that, like how the infinity gems/stones work differently in different universes, perhaps so do other artifacts and abilities.

Wanda may need the Darkhold to DreamWalk in her Universe, but perhaps Kitty doesn't need the book to do that. America Chavez, for example, can jump to other universes as her natural power.

Perhaps Kitty Pryde simply had a second mutation which allowed her to do interact with parallel universes in this way, or maybe she could always do this, and never knew. After all, why would you even think you could do something like that, unless you were put into desperate enough circumstances to try. The circumstances they find themselves in at the beginning of DoFP is exactly the pressure that either pushes a second mutation into existence, or exposes a previously unknown ability.

Either way, having her displace Logan's mind into a different timeline version of himself would fix the continuity errors in those X-Men timelines. They would be very similar timelines, but not technically compatible. Xavier basically downloaded his memories into the younger alt universe Xavier when they mind-melded through Logan in that movie, which would account for Xavier's future mental state in the movie "Logan". The man has multiple timelines worth of knowledge in his head at that point, just like Logan, but with the added strain of immense telepathic powers and old age.

It all simply makes a bit more sense, if Kitty Pryde had DreamWalked characters to other timelines, rather than ONLY sending their mind back in time.

This would also organically retcon the previous movies in a way to make them more compatible/accessible to the multiverse storytelling currently happening in Sony/Disney Marvel movies, and going forward.

Fandomwire reposted my theory

-LogicDog

I honestly believe at this point Thanos is coming back. I mean Mistress Death has arrived and I feel like it'd be a huge waste for them to not unite the most KILLER couple in Marvel lol. Besides I'm not entirely sure getting snapped equates to being dead. Its entirely possible Death is plotting to bring Thanos back so she can get more bodies.

[ Mostly spoilers for: Thor 3, Endgame, Thor 4, & Secret Wars ]

Main Theory:

New Asgard (located on Earth), will re-establish The Valkeryies, which were the all-female defensive fighting force of Asgard who perished at the hands of Hela (shown in Thor Ragnarok flashback scene).

Since the character "Valkyrie" herself is currently running Asgard, and is perhaps the final surviving member of the Valkeryies, it only makes sense for her to re-establish the unit.

Actual Asgardian Valkeryies will be small in number, since there aren't many Asgardians left, let alone specifically capable female warriors. So, they will need to look for powerful female characters elsewhere. The recruitment of other super powered women would quickly morph the fighting force into a version of the team "A-Force" from the comics, which consisted of all women, and a significant number of them have already shown up in the movies at this point.

This time, the "A" in "A-Force" will stand for "Asgard", in an organic and fitting way. This will make it feel less derivative of The Avengers.

This team would also be able to pick up on the narrative threads from other movies/shows that feature(d) female hero team-ups.

[Secret Invasion Spoiler]

This team may be especially necessary, given the fact that many nations and earth factions have turned against aliens/non-humans, since the events of Secret Invasion. The events of Captain America 4 may also play into this. At the time of posting, that movie is currently unreleased.

Possible Members:

• Valkyrie
• Lady Sif
• She-Hulk
• Miek (female in the MCU)
• The Wasp
• Captain Marvel (Carol)
• Photon (Monica)
• Ghost
• Black Widow (Yelena)

Notes/Theories on other characters:

America Chavez will be training with Strange and his Sorcerers, for Strange Academy.

Kate Bishop will be part of the Young Avengers, and I sorta doubt she'd officially join A-Force.

Cassie Lang/Stature will also be more associated with The Young Avengers.

Love (from Thor 4) may eventually be part of A-Force due to her Asgardian connections, but I believe she will first be associated with the Young Avengers, and/or perhaps a version of The Guardians of The Galaxy.

The Wakandan characters like Shuri already have their own military and Nation, but it would be fun if they did an exchange program wherein they trade a Wakandan for an Asgardian. Would be neat to see Lady Sif in Wakanda; she lost an arm, and Shuri has a robotic arm design from the one she made for Bucky. Perhaps they could make her a new arm with a personal style which separates it visually from Bucky's or Cable's arms.

To Clarify: I'm not saying that there will be an A-Force movie, or that it will become it's own successful sub-franchise, like GotG. I'm merely theorizing that the "A-Force" team will come into existence in the Marvel/Disney movies, under this rough framework, using some of these aspects of Marvel lore/continuity.

Just an idea I've been tossing around for a while. Did I miss any Marvel women that you think could join the team?

Lemme know what you think :)

-LogicDog

Having skipped on the Kang story there is a big gap to be filled and we now know it to be Doom stepping in.

Doom being the character he is needs a lot of build up and back story to fully work as a satisfying big bad. The only way I see marvel achieving this in the time frame would be through the vanquishing of some avengers.

I don’t think this will be one by one but instead I think there will be a smaller build up (features and cameos) before a team is assembled to defeat him. That team needs to LOSE. If they do lose it not only shows dooms power but can also help thin out some of the less popular characters and allows for an overall reconstruction of the team.

If we see Doom murder a literal team it will prove him a formidable foe and create a thrilling back story for secret wars (no one is powerful enough to defeat Doom, the avengers are gone or in disarray, he’s just having fun with the ‘heroes’ that he considers beneath him).

With Agatha All along showing souls can cling to nearby dead bodies (or atleast souls with magick powers), I'm curious about Wanda.

If she indeed did "die" on Wundagore, as a nexus being, could her soul transcend universes?

Every rumor I've seen is that Feige is running with the children's crusade storyline, so if 616 soul clings to 838 and RDJ doom comes from 838 as well, this would play out perfectly. Soul transfer amnesia is already canon with Billy in the show and the only sticking point is having the 838 boys killed off somehow because of the recasting.

Thoughts?

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Did Lilia maybe see a worse future than Wanda ripping through multiverse to find universe she can replace herself? I don't believe sigil was to hide him from Agatha, but instead to hide him from Death and consequently Wanda. Agatha says she honestly knew early on, but kept quiet. I think she was hiding him from Rio and Wanda, because who knows what world breaking things would happen if the Scarlett Witch fought Death for the right for her boys to exist.

No idea if Wanda capable of beating death itself, but even if she could would that not be terrible? I think Lilia saw Wanda go after Rio who's after Billy, and she knew THAT version of Wanda was still going through her grief and would do unrepairable damage to all universes and existence as a whole, and she saw if she hid Billy Wanda would have her ark to hopefully make her not try kill death, and destroyed Darkhold as a bonus to preventing a fight between The Scarlett Witch and Death

I doubt Wanda would care about breaking rules she had no idea about. As far as she knows her boys are real and have a right to exist.

(Marked spoiler cause assume naming death still spoiler)

In the trailers we have seen so far for Captain America: Brave New World, we have seen Ross talking to Sam about making Captain America a military position again and also asks him to reassemble the Avengers. Seeing this, it can be speculated that an earlier U.S. administration pulled the same thing with John Walker.

Before the blip, the Avengers operated unaffiliated to any nation. The U.S. government had been aiming to bring the Avengers under government control since after the events of Avengers Endgame at the very least. To that end, they took the mantle of Captain America using the shield donated by Sam Wilson to the Smithsonian and gave the same to John Walker.

Next step for John, reassemble the Avengers as the New Captain America. How does John go about that? Among the Avengers still around, there are slim pickings to target. Wanda Maximoff was a fugitive by now and Spider-Man was caught in his share of legal troubles. Black Panther and Dr Strange were both off the table as well as they answered to Wakanda and Kamar-Taj (in Nepal) respectively and hence would have no part in his U.S. Avengers.

Among the Avengers left, he decided to target Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes, both military men like him, and staunch followers of the previous Captain America. It was probably hoped that once these two joined Walker, the rest of the Avengers would eventually fall in line. Thereby, he traced their location through Sam's Redwing drone and tried to keep offering assistance to their mission by folding them into his team and offering them the U.S. government's resources at his disposal.

Eventually though, his focus shifted towards the flag Smasher group as the U.S. government was probably interested in getting their hands on the Super Soldier Serum as well.

This theme, about the U.S. government wanting their own team of Superhuman agents, would continue into Thunderbolts*, with Val finally consolidating all her superhuman assets into a team or destroying them all if she can't control them or they become a liability to her.

So a big thing about the road is how nobody comes back from it except for Agatha. We also know that Agatha lost her kid at some point. The road is also where she presumably got the Darkhold. I think that Mephisto created the Road to lure powerful witch's to their deaths so that he could claim their souls. I also believe that he took Agatha's son as payment for not killing her. It's possible that a certain number have to die and that only one can leave or at least one who gains Mephisto's favor.

I think Mephisto in this continuity created the Darkhold and Agatha is hoping he'll give her a new one. However, I also suspect she's been reconnecting with her humanity and that's been messing with her making her less inclined to go through with sacrificing everyone.

I think by "born evil" her mother means her auto pilot syphoning ability. Its a scary ability, and no one seems to know or understand it.

Maybe her mom found out trying to put a protection on her, but Agatha even as newborn started syphoning and she just tossed her away stopping it cause she only a newborn, but of course her mom deemed her evil as result. And thats followed her for life. Her own mothen then her coven all branded her evil instead of embracing an teaching her and accepting her like a coven should a young witch.

She seems to have no control over her syphoning other witches when they hit her with their own magic. I think it is on auto pilot as a self-defense. And I can see her mother while knowing it's out of her control using the death of Agatha's son to convince everyone she is evil and needs to be executed. She probably assumed Agatha wouldn't be able to absorb all of their magic if it was a lot of strong witches all at once. But they were horribly wrong, and only made Agatha ultra powerful, but feared witch branded as evil. But her true self shows in fact she didn't kill the kids.

Unfortunately, with such a powerful ability out of her control, and all stories others hear without her side......I fear she's doomed to be forever branded as evil. Even if it's out of her control. Same as Wanda when she made hex. Sometimes it seems just cause it's your magic/power doesn't mean you have control. The price of being a powerful witch seems to be your magic will act independently to protect you. Great for the witch as keeps them safe, but also isolates them an gets them branded as evil.

Thankfully we have more ep cause this like half way point, so maybe we'll see others come to learn and understand. And in doing so making a place for Wanda to safely return. To a coven of witches who cam finally understand. I've not read comics, but perhaps this why they such good friend in comics cause Agatha sees herself in Wanda. But Agatha can now try to save Wanda from suffering same fate as her. This episode did everything but verbalise that Teen is Billie, and I guess can assume Tommy with White Vision which we'll see when his show comes out after this one.

Also last tangent: I think Agatha swirling Alice's magic was her trying see if she can give it back, but unfortunately if it's not her purple it just fizzles out. Seems she can only take/syphon, but not give/return it. Leaving her unable to revive Alice (even though she didn't seem as tucked dry as Salem 7 who tried kill Agatha)

I doubt they do this but I added a spoiler tag just in case.

Dr. Doom (RDJ) eventually has what seems to be a Kang variant serving as his chief Lieutenant, as well as Ms Minutes, Doom calls them Kangslayer but their armor obscures their features. It is later revealed not to be a Kang but a future version of Riri Williams, we also find that Riri is Kang The Conqueror and Renslayer's biological daughter. She blames the Council of Kang for the death of her parents. She is considered an anomaly and was instrumental in helping Dr Doom wipe out all the Kang variants. Riri Kangslayer is fiercely loyal to Doom, viewing him as the father she never had but ultimately turns on him when she finds out he lied to her about going back in time to save her parents.

This would be a big departure from the comics of course, this theory is inspired by they idea the MCU would rather combine Ironheart with Ironlad than do them both. Might be cool if there was a Young Avengers lead in movie where Kangslayer was the chief villain, this could explain the fall of Kang almost in epilogue but in a more meaningful way that has some impact and makes sense with the Kang connections as the big reveal for Iron Heart and the team at the end.. But I dont even Know if YA is even still on the slate or what theyre doing with Iron Heart series.

This more just me theory crafting what I think is cool than guessing what's real

Hear me out. We know Thor is gonna cry over Wade, and at some point they're gonna cross paths. I predict Yukio is going to be able to move Mjolnir. Not fight with it, but she's going to physically move it off some object in full view of people and blow Thor's mind. She's just that pure. She won't pick it up, but she'll slide it out of the way. I feel like they've been setting up something with her 'cuteness/sheer goodness' over the course of the series. Her whole character was re-crafted to make a joke scene and everyone laugh. It screams Ryan Reynolds. Thoughts?