/r/magnesium
Over the past few years I've learned (through research and personal experience) the value of magnesium as a nutritional supplement. I'd like to have a place on reddit to discuss it.
For industrial uses of magnesium, see r/industrial_magnesium
The Magnesium Reddit
Magnesium - a chemical element with symbol Mg and atomic number 12. It is a shiny gray solid which bears a close physical resemblance to the other five elements in the second column (group 2, or alkaline earth metals) of the periodic table: all group 2 elements have the same electron configuration in the outer electron shell and a similar crystal structure.
Symbol: Mg
Atomic mass: 24.305 u ± 0.0006 u
Atomic number: 12
Electron configuration: [Ne] 3s2
Melting point: 1,202°F (650°C)
Discovered: 1808 by Sir Humphry Davy
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/r/magnesium
Is there anyone here who has had a severe deficiency verified/confirmed?
I'm talking late stages, where serum is below 0.4mmol for example and it is objectively measurable, with no ambiguity.
At my most severe recently when my body started losing control of thermoregulation almost entirely alongside other terrible symptoms, my serum measured 0.3mmol (0.729 mg/dL).
I would love to hear brief stories and recovery journey.
Hi all - thiamine notably brings my heart rate down as part of a vitamin supplement I take, experimenting soon with a low dose magnesium and thiamine mix (already a tablet)
I know that Thiamine at higher doses can have the adverse desired effect for some re; the heart rate. I’ve read that dosed with magnesium it’s relaxing and has real benefits.
Just wondering if anyone has any experience they are willing to share on recommendations?
Happy weekend 😊
Hello everyone.
38 M. In 2016 I've suffered fluoroquinolone toxicity (for those who don't know, Fluoroquinolones are a class of antibiotics known to cause severe and permanent damage, expecially to the nervous and muscoloskeletal system.
They're also known, among other things, to deprive the body from essential minerals (magnesium expecially).
I've been supplementing with Vitamin D3, 5000 iu a day, K2, 200 mcg a day, in the winter, and magnesium, about 400 mg a day from mag. glycinate, citrate or chloride (this last one in it's liquid ionic form), for years now.
While my vitamin D levels are great (50+ ng/ml), my magnesium levels are too low (I've done the RBC test).
I remember years ago I was taking 3 mg of Boron a day too, because I've read it should imrpove vitamin D absorbtion. In fact, after about 3 weeks, I checked my D levels again and they were really high (70 ng/ml), but it also raised calcium levels too. Calcium wasn't out of range, but on the upper limit. So I stopped with the Boron, and in a couple of weeks my Calcium got back to normal.
Last month I've repeated the Boron experiment (this time only 1.5 mg a day) because I've read that Boron improve Magnesium absorbtion too (which like I've mentioned, it's always been low), even though I was a little worried that my calcium levels would raise too much again. With my surprise, this time my calcium serum leveles were too low! Not a huge deficency, but not right at all.
I do you explain this? Why my calcium levels dropped so much, even though I'm taking Vit D and K2 (vitamins known to improve caclium absorbtion) and expexcially Boron, which in the past greatly increased my calcium?
I'm showing signs of demineralization (frail tooth enamel, muscle tears on my legs), and that's why I'm always trying to supplemments with minerals and vitamins.
Should I supplement with more magnesium? Is it possible that magnesium, even if still too low on the RBC test, it's messing with calcium absorbtion?
Does anyone have any idea? Thank you so much.
EDIT
Right now I'm only taking the liquid magnsium chloride (ionic) from Now foods. In the past I've used Magsnium Glycinate and Citrate in powder form. Should I use tablets or capsules, instead of powder? Are they better absorbed?
My magnesium bisglycinate supplement has these ingredients Will there be side effects on long term consuming like 6 months or 1 year? Im severely deficient in magnesium
Hi everyone
My partner (29m 6’3, 260lbs) recently started taking vitamin D drops about a month ago. He accidentally took the entire dropper every day instead of 5 drops recommended. We roughly assume he had been taking 50,000 iu daily of vitamin D for 22 days straight.
When he started having severe body pain, sleeping 11 hours a day, heart palpitations, tingling and falling asleep in his arms and hands, etc… I told him to check his vitamins and he realized his error and stopped taking the Vit D immediately.
It’s been a few weeks and he is still suffering symptoms of vitamin D toxicity. He is going to a doctor this week to do blood tests.
I got him magnesium glycinate today as I saw some posts saying that helps with vit D overdose..
He is also having emotional symptoms now. Says his mood fluctuated randomly. He goes from happy and energetic and social and can quickly switch to not wanting to talk to anyone, feeling down and anxious. Last night he did not want to talk to anyone. He also feels irritable randomly and none of this is normal for him.
I’m worried he could develop psychosis… Is there anything he can do or take to help get rid of the excess vitamin D?
Is magnesium glycinate effective?
Thank you in advance 🙏🏻
Hello all
What dosages per kg of bodyweight are people taking?
I've been taking magnesium for years and have been changing the dosages slightly after reading a doctor's blog about taking it pre-workout. I'm a relatively muscular 105ish kgs and train weights four times a week and do power walks for cardio five days a week.
I'd been taking 3000mg Mg Citrate (440mg elemental Mg) and I'd been reasonably happy with the results. For a couple of days after training, I always felt a little tired and put it down to just being tired. But after increasing the dose to 5mg/kg bodyweight on non-training days and 6.5mg/kg on training days, I've felt much better in terms of mood and erm 'perkiness', shall we say.
Has anyone else had similar (or different) results from varying dosages?
TIA!
I bought this twice: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07PF8HJZH
One had a small scoop and was partly full.
One had a large scoop and was mostly full.
Both appeared otherwise the same.
I’ve been taking mag glyc for a while now, when I wake up and before bed. It doesn’t bother my stomach but I do think I’m getting negative mood effects from it. What other forms can I try that would have more of a calming effect? Especially interested in increasing sleep quality.
I have been struggling with low energy, headaches and jaw pain when I wake up, and headaches, jaw pain, and energy dips after I eat for years. I have tried countless things such as even going keto because I thought it was a blood sugar problem. It has been so hard to pinpoint but I actually think being magnesium deficient may have something to do with it.
Years ago my dentist identified that I was grinding my teeth at night because she saw signs of it on my teeth and because of my gum recession. This was probably back in like 2020. I was having jaw pain as well and I got a mouth guard. I noticed a huge difference in my jaw pain when I woke up in the morning after I started wearing it. The dentist also recommended that I take magnesium. She explained that it helped relax your muscles and would lead to less clenching and grinding. I took Target’s brand of magnesium, calcium, and zinc complex and I took two tablets per day (this was magnesium oxide—around 266 mg per day).
I didn’t notice a real difference with that and now I know that oxide wasn’t the best form to be taking and certainly wasn’t enough. Well last November, Target was out of it and when I was looking into alternatives I saw that glycinate was a more absorbable form. I ordered the NOW brand magnesium glycinate and started out with just two tablets (200 mg) at night. The first day after I took it, I had one of the best days I had had in months if not years. I hadn’t eaten well the day before and had been up late with a stomach ache, so I hadn’t even gotten very much sleep. But I didn’t have a trace of a headache or jaw pain. I had amazing concentration and focus that I couldn’t have even dreamed of just days prior. My energy was steady throughout the day with only maybe a minor dip after lunch.
The next few days I still felt pretty good and the headaches were minor or nonexistent. But then, it was like my body adjusted to it and everything went back to the way it had been before. I recently started taking it twice a day, and the same thing happened where I had one of those amazing days the day right after. It has now been four or five days of taking 400 mg and the headaches and jaw pain are still much improved, but my energy levels are dipping back to the way they were before.
It has taken me a really long time to realize that this could have something to do with it because for the longest time I thought the headaches and energy crashes must have to do with something I’m eating or how I’m sleeping because they happen after I eat and when I wake up. But that day of my stomach not doing well the night before and not getting enough sleep yet still feeling great pretty much just disproved that.
Anyway, I’m just trying to figure out what’s going on. I recently had a magnesium RBC test done, and it came back normal. But I’ve read that blood tests can come back normal even if you’re actually deficient because your body has started pulling it from your bones. Does anyone know why I feel better after upping my dosage but then go back to my baseline despite being on that higher dosage still? Is there any other way of testing that can measure if you’re truly deficient? Thank you to anyone who has read this and wants to help 🫶🏻
For those with sensitivities to supplements (citrate put me on the ER, and glycinate huge headaches), I found a natural mineral water called Donat Mg, it is sold worldwide and produced in Slovenia.
You can buy 500ml or 1ltr bottles, which contain 500mg or 1000mg of magnesium.
Personally what I'm doing to correct my 0.3mmol deficiency is this:
Diluting 25ml in to a cup of regular tap water, and drinking over 20 minutes, then repeating this every few hours.
At meals I'll have 50ml after I've eaten, dissolved in to tap water.
This way you can achieve a controlled daily dose, maximize absorption without overwhelming your digestion system or your body/kidneys etc.
And it works perfectly.
That is all,
P.S I wouldn't recommend drinking it straight. Tried that, it's a quick way to upset your digestive system, get side effects if you're sensitive and make you loose.
I use alot of peanut butter powder. PB2
I use around 80g a day of this which is maybe around 150g of peanuts? Not 100% sure tbh.
Will this still yield as high of a magnesium content as peanuts? Will the processing have reduced the magnesium content?
I recently picked up a magnesium blend.
Magnesium Glycinate Magnesium Citrate Magnesium Malate
It's provides 384mg magnesium per 2 capsules. I tried 2 capsules and felt so wired and had awful insomnia for 2 days. I react poorly to glycine.
Lastnight I opened a capsule and emptied half of it into a sauce I was making. Basically making the magnesium part of my food. Today I feel fine. Half a capsule will add around 80-90mg of magnesium per day.
Anyone else start low and work their way up?
Did you notice improvements just starting out low? I might even just stay at half a capsule. I do try and make my food all nutrient rich though.
Everyone says magnesium carbonate is junk .What’s your personal experience and opinion ?
Ever since I found out that magnesium blood tests were unreliable, I've come to lose trust in electrolyte measuring blood tests. I'm paranoid now since I'm taking more elemental mag than I ever have, and I want to avoid deficiencies in other electrolytes: are blood tests for sodium, calcium, and potassium all reliable in measuring my body's levels of each respective electrolyte? Or are blood tests for those unreliable? Which tests can accurately detect deficiencies in those electrolytes?
Hi there. I have chronically low electrolytes for mostly unknown reasons. I have hypoparathyroidism which causes the calcium issues but my potassium and magnesium are both low and idk why. I take a lot of magnesium for ckd(I have pretty good function but I still have it) like 6 150mg capsules per day. I was wondering if there are viable alternatives to pill. TMI but I just want to have regular poops and taking this much magnesium makes that very difficult. Like would weekly magnesium infusion work as a substitute? Idk how magnesium work in the body and if an infusion would last long enough
Hey there, I’m a clinical Massage therapist. A lead personal trainer and a flexologist.
I got Covid about a year ago this time.
It wrecked me cuz I was going through a hard relationship b.s. My partner had cheated. But just that.. it was cereal cheating.
I was in school 8.5 hours a day and trying to work my brand new business I just opened at night time.
I almost did graduated and I did manage to.
Coming out of all of that I ended up with some Deffincies by internalizing the pain.
Normally I’m In the gym 6 days a week. That’s been knocked down to 2-3 lately.
On top of that my job is physically active. Some days I find it har to push through, Dizzy spells, Weak legs, Shakes and tremors in my hands, Panic attacks, Shortness of breath, Exhausted just down right exhausted some times. Other times extremely Not and I feel amazing. No issues.
Now all Of this is as told was quote “ female hormones.” And told to see my obgyn.
I did get blood work done and my doc said there was nothing to find.
Maybe .. my it’s got re- triggered from the break up.
So he told me to see a therapist. I went to therapy twice a week for 6 months, The episodes kept happening to the point I feel down at work last week.
Prior to that for about 6 months on and off I used a supplement for electrolytes- until I found out recently that you can’t take calcium and magnesium together. That it can cause heart issues, disease and circuit problems.
So I knocked that out.
Now I won’t even use my protein powder cuz I sip on magnesium powder most do the day - about half a scoop. So like 200 mg’s a 100 mg’s a day.
For the last week and a half.
I felt better but… then I started to feel exhausted.
Weak. A weird feeling in my chest. No more palpitations or shakes to tremors.
But kinda panicky, numb tongue sometimes and just like crap.
So then I started eating Greek yogurt and drinking coconut water and eating a banana a day a red potatoes.
Felt a bit better. Went back to the gym.
But I’d wake up with these dry mouth episodes and full body twitches all over and grab more mag water.
Same one from earlier in the day.
And everything would subside, Until I started to get ready for my day .. I’d cook breakfast, shower, do my Make up. Pack my bag for work and the gym and then it hits me … shakes, feeling weak, just like this feeling draining from my head down to my feet - so I grab the mag water and everything gets better until it doesn’t … another 4 hours go by and another episode. Like an addiction to the mag water ?
I start researching B1, B12 deficiency and stumble upon a massive amount of info about B vitamins and mineral deficiency’s causing a whole heck of a lot of issues. Including diabetes which I had wondered — but I’m extremely active and 127 lbs. My doc suggested to combat the shakes, that I keep cooked oat meal on hand at all times ??? Even tho he said I don’t have blood sugar issues. He thinks this is all in my head.
Now none of this came back on my blood work. I matter how much I stressed to my doc .. that i swore it was severe dehydration.
I need help 😞 im trying to figure it out and find Ration and up one without depleting the other.
I need protein .. usually I’d do a shake after a long client but now I have to wait for my food to hit my system.
Cuz I was told Calcium sups and mags can’t mix.
Sodium .. I add pinches of sea salt to food.
My magnesium powder is malate, citrate and glycinate.
My b1 - is benfotiamine - small doses 2-3 times a day.
B12 and all the important ones I get in a one a day. I also meal prep and cook very healthy.
I grew up a vegan. Idk if that made this worse but for the last 4 years I’ve been eating meat and strength training.
Mag doesn’t make me feel like crap in the combo I found - of all 3 together. - incase that helps anybody.
If anyone deal with tremors - b1 helped that and blood flow. Before I started these .. I was dealing with feeling cold a lot of the time. Another thing I was told was anxiety.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. What on earth am I doing wrong ? How can I find a good ration ?
How do you know when your levels are up and you don’t have to do this anymore ? What causes the deficiency?
I've had muscle spasms/twitching throughout my body that come and go for the last 2 months. But now recently, I've also started to have shooting nerve pains that are like quick stings in random spots.
Have any of you experienced this from a Magnesium deficiency?
I was feeling anxious yesterday so I took some magnesium.
I took an epson salt bath last night and today I’m feeling super lethargic. I noticed last time I took an Epson salt bath I felt really tired the next day too. I was reading that it does help a magnesium absorbed through your body or something.
So is the magnesium the reason I’m feeling so lethargic?
Magnesium I'm taking currently:
Glycinate: 450 mg (in the process of raising this amount)
Threonate: 192 mg (will soon be replacing threonate with malate)
I'm aware that this amount can barely be considered megadosing, but it is more magnesium than I've ever taken. Soon I will be taking more per day. With that said, is megadosing counterproductive? If a person takes large doses of magnesium, can the body even hold onto all of that, absorb it, and replenish magnesium levels in the tissues? Or does it excrete the magnesium?
I started taking magnesium glycinate 200 mg for ocd. Ive been taking it for about 6ish days and I haven't noticed a difference. Could it be that I just don't need magnesium, or that I need a different kind?
It seems like everyone has had so many side effects from taking magnesium like anxiety, depression, insomnia, racing heart rate, diarrhea, etc and there’s always a need for another supplement to fix it (b1 thiamine, b6, boron, calcium, and so on and so on).
Has anyone here just toughed through the initial side effects and it got better as their magnesium levels increased? If so, what and how long were the side effects before you started feeling better? Did you adjust your dosage? How did you survive taking this ridiculous 🤬 supplement?
For those who recover from deficiency How long did it take you to raise magnesium RBC result ?
I have been supplementing for a few months but magnesium RBC barely moved up
I did one like four days after stopping supplements and it was 4.6 mg/dl
I did another one after like 10 days of stopping supplements and it was 3.5 mg/dl
So probably 3.5 mg/dl is the true levels?
Hello, Is it best to stop vitamin and mineral testing prior to testing? If so, for how long, and is it different with different vitamins/minerals? I'm afraid to stop magnesium with a deficiency. Thank you.
Currently replenishing my magnesium levels after being mag deficient for over two years due to extreme daily stress and adrenaline, low dietary magnesium, frequent sweating and physical activity, and catching covid. I've been taking a good amount of glycinate and threonate for about 3-4 weeks: about 437 mg of glycinate and 192 mg of threonate per day.
My main issue has been muscle weakness and fatigue, and also anxiety which I've found the magnesium has helped with tremendously. My question is which forms should I take in order to correct this deficiency as fast as possible? I'm not looking to rush this process but I'm also trying to move things along more efficiently so that I can finally feel better. And should I be taking more than the amounts I listed?
Been trying to google what type these are but couldn't find anything