Hello all!

I'm in the final stages of my Sauron Aristocrats Deck journey, I can FEEL it. I don't have a huge budget but I've been building it up for a while now and am pretty happy with it, I'd just love some thoughts on balancing each necessary category for the deck. It has three main components for the engine, token generation, sac outlet, and benefits from sacing. If anyone has experience with balancing a deck like this to make each part as efficient as possible I'd really appreciate insight.

More importantly though, how should I be trying to win in an aristocrats style deck? I've been getting the impression recently that just outvaluing my opponent won't cut it, and pinging them down 1 point at a time feels way too drawn out. I have rise of the dark realms and one other graveyard recursion in case all my important games pieces are taken out, but it feels minor. Any thoughts on win cons I ought to include, or am I underestimating the aristocrat powers?

If anything else stands out I'd love to know!

Thanks for looking, appreciate you all!!

https://archidekt.com/decks/7104753/the_dark_lord_returns_aristocrats

So I've built a [[Geralf, the Fleshwright]] cantrip deck and need to cut down a few cards. The aim of the deck is to pretty much cantrip into more cantrips or cards like [[Windfall]] and get as many zombies as possible and then give them evasion with cards like [[geralf visionary stitcher]] or [[forgotten creation]]. I like how the deck is running at the moment with goldfishing but I am stuck with analysis paralysis on what to cut.

Any and all help would be amazing, this is also my first deck of this style so it may be a bit janky compared to others.

Here's the Decklist

Hey all I really like the new joins up enchantments and want to build a standard or maybe historic deck? I think the [[Vraska Joins Up]] goes really well with [[Tatsunari, Toad Rider]] and [[Kodama of the West Tree]].

Here's what I have so far:

Unsure where to take it in standard yet.

Standard: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/wOWQ_3QT40WGKOfyN_bTWg

Been having some fun mostly legendary matters with Lord of the rings cards.

Historic: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ex0T89WZKUKktDHbyySUPg

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/HQkCUHhnJEuEcK8A5XyqaA

Commander: Marchesa the Black Rose

Secret Commander: Umbris, Fear Manifest

Combos: [Hullbreach Horror + Sol Ring], [Umbris + Worldgorger Dragon]

Goals:

1. Exile everyone's library with sorceries, Horror enter-the-battlefield effects, or milling into graveyard hate
2. Swing an unblockable, recursive Umbris with a Sword of Wealth and Power attached. Possibly with Mindcrank active.
3. Steal other people's board wipes or cast my own and survive them with +1/+1 counter recursion

Already I know that my Mana base and Mana fixing capabilities are terrible, though I don't quite know how to fix that exactly.

Have any advice?

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ksgvye-qWE-doOIhkaax7g

So far this is what I have come up with. I haven't gotten the chance to test it yet but was wondering what you all thought. Any changes you would make? Anything I'm missing or having to much of?

Thanks in advance!

As the title suggests, since tokens "enter the grave" before ceasing to exist, would artifact tokens trigger Daretti, Scrap Savant's emblem "Whenever an artifact is put into your grave, return that card to the battlefield at the beginning of the next end step."?

Asking because I'm making a cmdr deck with vaultborn tyrant, that want's to go wide, with lots of +1/+1 counters, and when vt dies, it comes back as an artifact token, which I can copy with ghired.

I doubt that the tokens would come back into play after dying, but can't hurt to ask.

Hi everyone,

I saw this decklist from Tolarian Community College (https://www.moxfield.com/decks/uADyS9T3FEmzJXI3MRNlGQ) and decided to further upgrade the deck. I am just unsure of the swaps.

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I am looking to add in:

1. Jeska's Will
2. Cyclonic Rift
3. Heroic Intervention
4. Flame of Anor

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I've considered removing Cultivator's Caravan and Cryptic Pursuit (Manifest seems troublesome to play). But could not think of other swaps. Do help me out! Thank you.

Hey folks, fairly new to the game but Ive been a card game player for years so I get some basic and intermediate stuff about deck building and how to balance stuff.

Just want to ask about the two Kellan the Kid tiny leader decks I've got on the go just now. My LGS has an upcoming mini league and this format seems like a lot of fun so wanted a bit of help since there's not as much tiny leaders stuff out there that I can find. Plus the commander is fairly new so wanted opinions of folks to help me narrow the search and plan.

My original idea was just a good go at Kellan the kid's abilities and to build off them but with a smaller commander deck. https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7407632/kellan_the_lil_kid

My issue with that though is I feel with it being a tiny leaders deck the wincon isn't as easy to define or even get to.

Hence 2.0 https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7483423/kellan_20_ Which banks a bit more on being a Voltron sort of deck, pumping Kellan up and making the most of his flying and lifeline while being able to cast more enchantments and creatures as I buff him.

What do we think?

i dont personally see too many cards that would help out a bear 2/2 deck. i want to make [[duskana]] the commander so i have access to red as well because why not. gonna throw the king and queen in the 99 and have some things like defense of the heart to help put them both out. and i wanna throw in cards to support an army of 2/2 bears* (*mostly)

I am trying to go in for a token deck based on the precon warhammer and i tried to keep the squad thing through my deck i really like the mechanic and i added some cards usually in token decks but while playing it somethings feels off and I also get in hand many cards that don't really catch the spirit of my deck. What could i replace in priority to create tokens and squad tokens and what could i add to it ? Should i focus on tokens only as i kept many artifacts and other cards that are kinda strong but not really in the theme of the deck

Decided to brew Miirym after a couple years not playing around with him.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/JY_86YsjLEmhQ531Pd8wcg

Looking for advice on consistency and speed of getting the dragon dance going, suggesting cards and what you would remove if you added the cards you suggest.
Only thing I'm trying to stick to is making it as dragon related synergistic or themed as possible

This is what I have so far any input on what else to put in or things to take out would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!!

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/GXUgWgu2LUOR8Wo6hPnwBw

Hey everyone, I made my first built deck and I wanted to see if it needs any improvements or additions. I feel like there is something that needs to change but I am not sure. Any suggestions would be heavily appreciated!

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/seCH9ALB3kewmMvzOd7Ehw

Any improvements/card suggestions. I would prefer the cards to be <$2 per but some can’t be avoided. I also don’t care about legality as I am super casual

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/QkV-eGtZikeB91Ipl6aKZw

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/81GCsFPkrE2gUx5ZU_RNnQ
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/eFsKAaLRTEyVcaI-T-RMsg

I have had this giada angel tribal for a couple months now, I love it, but I feel like some changes can be made I just can’t put my finger on it.

For instance, emeria shepherd has worked well for me a couple of games. But sometimes feels pretty expensive. So in tough spot.

As well as oketras monument, it’s a great card to reduce cost but I also run a lot of cards that reduce cost, is it worth it?

I could just be overthinking, but some experience would help

I would like to keep this at a 7 PL

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/lMug2OV490Wqna3r919tVQ

Hey awesome people. This community really helped give me some awesome feedback for my last build I was working on - so now I'm back with a battlecruiser type deck I threw together on a whim a couple months ago with cards I had pulled.

This Sauron, Dark Lord is able to win against higher powered decks but exclusively through its Amass Orcs 1 trigger and the outrageous amount of removal. Generally speaking, this deck has only won twice - though the intent of this deck is more so that I had some good luck pulling cards from multiple packs and just jammed them in here. I could use some help focusing in on what this deck could really do and how I can use as much of the cards you see in this list linked to help out.

SOOOO, I'm open to any and all suggestions. Please tear it apart, be vindictive, creative and EVIL (just like sauron would have wanted).

Edit: Would probably help If I linked the deck. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/s684y-b1-EKwQrW5xu3shA

can you help my iron oout my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/3Pe5_XQiYUucfFNylEzyIg

Thank you!

Hello, this is my first time posting on this subreddit so I apologize in advance if I missed a rule or anything. I have recently got back into magic specifically EDH and built a deck to play casual with friends, I went with a Baru deck because I really like wurms and wasn't looking for anything too overpowered. The problem is my friends were, I feel like my deck is a bit underpowered compared to theirs and I know that a wurm deck probably has a pretty low cap compared to others, but I was wondering what I should change or upgrade about my deck, I have some cards in mind but I have a hard time deciding which ones to take out and if they actually improve the deck. This wurm deck specifically seems to put a lot of focus around Baru's ability and being able to use it multiple times in one turn.

Decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6349737#paper

Some cards I've been thinking about adding are:

• Lightning Grieves

• Veil of Summer

• Last march of the ents

• Burgeoning

• Concordant crossroads

• Exploration

• Triumph of the hordes

• The great Henge

• Tribute to the world tree

I'm completely open to other suggestions though, and I not to repeat myself but I have a hard time deciding what to take out for these cards if I add them. One other thing I've noticed is that I seem to lack a bit of protection for the wurms and baru overall, so maybe I need something to give them more of a shield. Any help or advice on the deck is appreciated! thanks in advance :)

https://archidekt.com/decks/7260870/nicol_bolas

If you have ideas on what to add or cut, I would highly appreciate that.

Hi guys, need some help with a weird deck

Essentially I'm in a Commander competition where you've been assigned a deck limitation.

Mine is that I'm only allowed to play Land from hand, and anything else has to be cast from anywhere else - I don't even know where to start! Was thinking maybe plotting, or Stasis? since I'm technically exiling them and they're being played from exile gets around my limitation

Any and all help would be appreciated!

Budget: Non Colours: Don't mind

Hello,
this was my first deck, it was the painbow precon but heavily upgraded. want to make the deck more powerful, haven't touched the land-base so ik its a bit poor. looking for maybe a consistent infinite combo(s), something that utilizes the large amount of mana I can get from the commander etc. also just a consistent amount of strong creatures. any other tip would be helpful. no budget . Also looking at maybe a mazes end but I'm not too sure. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1K_aywUaj061Yjnhu4rZBQ
thanks.

hello,

this was my first deck, it was the painbow precon but heavily upgraded. want to make the deck more powerful, haven't touched the land-base so ik its a bit poor. looking for maybe a consistent infinite combo(s), something that utilizes the large amount of mana I can get from the commander etc. also just a consistent amount of strong creatures. any other tip would be helpful. no budget . Also looking at maybe a mazes end but I'm not too sure. deck

thanks.

Here's what my current favorite deck to play in Standard on Arena looks like:

3x [[Novice Investigator]]

3x [[Ichor Drinker]]

4x [[Get Lost]]

2x [[Restoration of Eiganjo]]

3x [[Wedding Announcement]]

1x [[Adeline, Resplendent Cathar]]

3x [[Kambal, Profiteering Mayor]]

3x [[Baron Bertram Greywater]]

4x [[Kaya, Spirits' Justice]]

2x [[Sunfall]]

3x [[Deadly Cover-Up]]

1x [[Farewell]]

2x [[Vein Ripper]]

3x [[Virtue of Persistence]]

For reference, I'm Gold 2 right now, so not very high. Looking for recommendations that will help me move up.

As far as I'm concerned, the heart of the deck is getting Kambal and any token-producer to stick. Usually that producer is Kaya, because she's hard to remove and can use the tokens I'm producing to exile the opponent's biggest threat. Kambal continuously ticks away at the opponent while being a solid blocker, so he's usually one of the first things that gets removed. Neither he nor Baron stick around for long, and I think I've won every game I've played if I can get them both running simultaneously for more than a turn.

Here is where I'm stuck: the Baron is obviously a token-producer and can get quite snowbally (in the sense this deck is easily producing more of his Lifelink tokens), especially if a Wedding Announcement is left up. But it feels like he's always instantly targeted for removal. Kambal is definitely the bigger threat, I mean, he copies opponents' tokens and drains them for one every time a token appears on my side, but for some reason people aren't quite as eager to snipe him. For context, if I have 4 mana open and both Kaya and the Baron in my hand, I will almost always play Kaya, unless I'm already in a strong enough position that I want to bait removal. When I play the Baron, it almost always feels like tossing 4 mana away just to have the opponent get rid of removal (usually single-target, not a board wipe). Are there any other cards that I can use to replace him?

The thought that I had was to run Adeline instead. She's also a token-producer and has felt extremely satisfying to play. I think the issue with her is that I wouldn't know how to pick between her and Kambal. Whichever one I play first will be removed as quickly as possible.

I'm also considering [[Case of the Stashed Skeleton]] just because of how much I like the combo with Restoration of Eiganjo. The skeleton token also works with Kaya because it means I can usually get rid of it easily. Another option would be [[Ruthless Lawbringer]] in that case, because it's another way to utilize the token.

[[Elas Il-Kor]] is the only other obvious card that comes to mind. I didn't put it in initially because it feels too obvious, ya know, I wanted to have fun with some core cards that were brand new or I hadn't seen before. I'm going to throw this in the deck now to try it out, but I also suspect that the wording of its ability ("Gain 1 when your creatures enter, opponent loses one when your creatures die") will prove to be ineffective. What makes Vein Ripper an auto-include for a token deck to me is that he's always life-gain for you and pinging the opponent when any creature gets removed. Essentially the same for Kambal. Il-Kor will likely prevent early-game board wipes from feeling too terrible, but I don't know how much that will matter in the long-run.

Would appreciate any ideas you have!

Looking for suggestions on this Francisco/Kediss EDH deck I'm building. The plan is to use Kediss' ability to stack up explore triggers and +1/+1 counters on Francisco, with some other equipment stuff going on as well. I'm looking to keep it within a similar price range as it is right now.

https://archidekt.com/decks/7492878/fowl_play?sort=cmc&stack=types

Hello All,

I have recently started playing Magic again, I used to play quite a bit of standard and was used to rotating formats. All of my pals switched over to Commander so I bought myself a Morska, Undersea Sleuth deck; sleeved it up and played my first game at a local card store. I had a bunch of fun and decided I would switch over completely to commander. That being said, I want to build my own deck that I can have fun playing with and I pulled Sisay from a MW1 pack I got as a present. She seems really sick and I can't wait to build around her. I have started a 45-ish card deck already and I want to create an amazing legends deck to play to her strengths. I need help with combo strategies such as infinite mana with Aminatou, Nicol Bolas and another card though I can't remember which. I also know I need a Jegantha, the Wellspring but haven't added her yet. For the remaining 44 cards I have a budget of around 150-200 dollars to work with. Please help me out if you could! Thanks and here is the deck list so far on Moxfield: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/2BDN65Jd2EWyVCo81ImehQ

This past month I've been getting back in to Magic after not playing in almost 17 years. Been building a Hydra tribal deck with Shalai and Hallar as the commander. Really trying to lean into the +1/+1 counters. I feel that depending on mana I could either try going wide and playing lots of hydras, or just pumping out bigger hydras.

https://archidekt.com/decks/7488755/shalai_hydra_tribal

Looking for some feedback. What is it that the deck is missing? Any substitutions? I feel that the mana base could be improved, but I was mainly going through what I already have access to. Do I have enough mana ramp? Are the mana dorks too prone to being killed off slowing down the ramp?

Appreciate any feedback