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A place to discuss AMC’s Mad Men, a critically acclaimed psychological period-drama series that earned sixteen Emmys and five Golden Globes.

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A place to discuss Mad Men, AMC's first foray into producing television.

The show is critically acclaimed and award-winning, earning nine Emmys and four Golden Globes. It is the first basic cable series to win the Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series, winning the award in 2008 and 2009.



So go get a bottle of scotch and a glass, and kick back in your favorite easy chair with your favorite brand of smokes. We'll be here after each episode.


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Trudy...

When I started watching the show, I wasn't much of a Trudy fan. But, as the seasons progressed I have really started to like her. I guess I kinda pitied her, because Pete is such an AH at times.

After she had Tammy I think her attitude changed and she realised her worth and stopped putting up with Peter's BS. Especially after that affair and the divorce. And she refused to do favours for him anymore. He realised he couldn't use her like he used to. Good for Trudy I say!!

2 Comments
2024/04/07
05:28 UTC

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What was the point of Joan's rape scene in Season 2?

There was a very disturbing scene where Greg rapes Joan in Don's office near the end of Season 2. I thought it would be followed up upon but there was nothing in Season 3 about it and now it's looking like S4 will be the same way.

Is there a point to the scene? There was a similar scene halfway through Sopranos but that was at least used to further one character's relationship with another.

Disclaimer: I'm two episodes into Season 4 so if this comes back up, don't spoil it for me.

37 Comments
2024/04/07
00:26 UTC

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So Roger was about 45 at the beginning of the show, right?

Meaning he had a heart attack at around 47. Lol guess that life of drinking and smoking finally caught up to him.

It’s also funny that he calls JFK a pimply kid when they’re basically the same age.

37 Comments
2024/04/06
23:41 UTC

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Let’s discuss the four spirits that appear to Don: Adam, Anna, Rachel, and Burt.

(Sorry if I missed an incident of Don seeing a spirit, these are the significant ones I could think of and I think they’re the only ones?)

Don very rarely sees spirits, so when he does it’s safe to assume that those are very significant people on his journey.

In my opinion, here is what each spiritual visitation meant to/for Don:

Adam: the most obvious one. Don’s guilt for not only denying his brother, but for denying his entire past, and for leaving Adam behind to begin with. He deserts Adam twice for the sake of his new life, and Adam’s spirit is the closest thing he experiences to an actual haunting.

Anna: this is such a special one, and in my opinion signifies the beginning of Don reconciling his past. Anna doesn’t visit him to haunt or shame him. Anna visits him because she knows he couldn’t make the call to Stephanie, and she accepts that he is not yet there on his path to self-acceptance. He couldn’t reach out to her, so she came to him. Anna is more of an angelic symbol who represents a total knowing and radical acceptance of Don, and a belief that he can be better.

Burt: a very surprising visitation, as we never get the impression that he’d have a great deal to say to Don after his passing. But at this point on his path, Don needs someone from the other side, some who was, on earth, an extremely industrious person, to come back and to tell him that even the most successful people in business will never be happy if they cannot love and accept themselves and others. Burt is Machiavellian in life, and it’s quite possible that we need to see who he becomes after he passes on from the material world. His message to Don is as he sings it: the best things in life are free. Whether he felt this when he was alive or not we don’t really know, but he was the authority on business as a lifestyle. Don needs to hear this message from the least likely person to deliver it.

And lastly, my beloved Rachel: possibly tied with Burt as the most surprising visitation due to how late it is in the series. I have always believed that Don truly did love Rachel. She might have been his deepest love. She’s also, in my opinion, the character best matched to him romantically. They challenge each other. And she sees through all of his artifice from episode (1? 2?) and cuts through him like a knife. I’m of the belief that this, in combination with his love for her, is why she visits him. She presented him with the opportunity to begin self actualization about 6 seasons before he was ready to, and when he is becoming ready, he remembers (sees) her. He runs to her when he is scared and she speaks reason to him as a fellow “outsider.” Whether this is love, camaraderie, or both, she was the first person to see a glint of Dick Whitman and to call him out. She just came along too early. 💛

34 Comments
2024/04/06
21:31 UTC

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Prequel

They’d never do it. But I think they have great material for a mad men prequel. Roger working for his dad who sounds like a real cut up. Bert losing his balls. An ad agency in the 30s. It’s not crazy to think it could work. Right?

3 Comments
2024/04/06
04:57 UTC

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Do you know how we won ---- because he couldn't smoke

I currently can't watch mad men but I'm looking for a qoute - please help <3 I love the show so much but im not that great at history and I'm also curious if this is true !

15 Comments
2024/04/06
04:44 UTC

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How would you explain mad men to someone to get them to watch the show?

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25 Comments
2024/04/06
01:46 UTC

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Was the whole saga of Don being forced to leave the agency illegal?

This plot point always bothered me.

So Don was a senior partner at the firm (i.e. co-owner). Can the other partners just form him to leave?

How was it legal for them to ask him to come back to work on their terms but if he violated then they’d just absorb his shares without compensation?

How did no one realize that they’d have to buy him out until Roger mentioned it?

10 Comments
2024/04/05
21:49 UTC

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How did the real McCann feel about the show constantly having characters that did not want to work there?

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16 Comments
2024/04/05
18:02 UTC

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Mad Men Lucky Strike Scene

Speaking as someone who has been in sales for 30 years there are parts of this iconic scene that ring true. People who are not in sales (or new to it) almost always say the wrong thing when they don't stay in their lane in a sales meeting. Pete is trying to save the day since Don is stumped and proposes a logical but incredibly stupid concept of "Man embracing his death wish" pitch to Lucky Strike. Don saves the day but they may have lost Lucky Strike then and there if pete's pitch was the last thing they heard. Saying nothing is better than saying the wrong thing and most people can't help but to fill the room with their words when there is silence. If you notice Roger doesn't say anything because he understands he can only make it worse. The final shot is Pete in awe of Don.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4p_oCFLdJE&ab_channel=askrom

2 Comments
2024/04/05
16:44 UTC

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How Does Sterling Cooper Pay for Client's Prostitutes?

So Sterling Cooper pays for clients' trip' to whore houses or for escorts to meet up with clients right? How does it do that? What does it go down on the budget as?

76 Comments
2024/04/05
15:00 UTC

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Roger’s health?

Anyone else remember Roger had 2 heart attacks? It wasn’t two many episodes it’s like it was completely forgotten because he was drinking and smoking like it never happened. I always thought that seemed odd, how he carried on as if nothing happened.

7 Comments
2024/04/05
06:59 UTC

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So, Manolo…(spoiler)

He was actually a murderer? Are we sure about that? If so, how long had he been planning it?

14 Comments
2024/04/05
01:32 UTC

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What episode is hell's bells Trudy?

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11 Comments
2024/04/04
23:27 UTC

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