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    Goblins Discord invite link

    Looking for an invite link to the discord for Goblins. Thanks in advance :)

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    2025/02/04
    00:05 UTC

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    This week it's RUG Delver time:)

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    2025/02/03
    22:23 UTC

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    Is there anywhere to play tournaments in the Denver/Aurora area?

    Hello Redditors, I have a couple legacy decks built and I like to actually play with them sometimes. I see Mythic Games in Littleton has Legacy twice a week, but I drove 40 minutes to go last Sunday and I was the only one who showed up... Just looking for a lively legacy scene in the area.

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    2025/02/03
    19:28 UTC

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    Legacy Content in German?

    Trying to brush up on my German and have been watching German MTG content. But the main streams/videos I've found are for formats I don't play. Anyone know of any legacy (or pauper) German content. Vielen Dank im Voraus.

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    2025/02/03
    18:37 UTC

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    Legacy Showcase Challenge Top 32 Run with Eldrazi! | Maxtortion

    After taking a couple months off of recording YouTube videos, I figured a Legacy Showcase Challenge would be a good time to jump back in, and the MTGO gods rewarded me with a strong finish against the strongest competition MTGO could offer!

    I unironically hope you enjoy 3 1/2 hours of high level and high stakes Eldrazi gameplay.

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    2025/02/03
    17:21 UTC

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    100% WIN RATE! The EPIC Storm WITHOUT Brainstorm

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    2025/02/03
    17:12 UTC

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    Metagame Monday: Showcase Analysis + Important Message!

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    2025/02/03
    16:33 UTC

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    CURIOSITY IS OTTERLY INSANE! Coruscation Mage + Curiosity — MTG Legacy Storm | Magic: The Gathering

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    2025/02/03
    14:32 UTC

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    Legacy Omni-Tell | I Got Something to Tell You

    Hey! Come here, I got something to tell you. Did you know you don't HAVE to pay mana for your spells? How? Omniscience of course! Join me this week as I take another older combo archetype in the form of Omni-Tell and see how it hangs with the current meta. Can I combo out my opponents for free thanks to cheating in an Omniscience and going infinite? Watch and find out!

    As always thanks for watching and for any feed back.

    Legacy Omni-Tell

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    2025/02/03
    14:08 UTC

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    Leaving a Legacy - cant seem to find any of the previous episodes

    Wanted to relisten to some of the older episodes and realised the podcast is no longer on spotify or any other kind of streaming platform - anyone can help?

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    2025/02/03
    12:32 UTC

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    7 different decks in the Top 8 of the Legacy Showcase Challenge

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    2025/02/03
    02:25 UTC

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    1st place 2/1/25 legacy challenge (roodslay)

    Hey! On 2/1/25 I managed to take down the 11pm legacy challenge with turbo golgari reanimator.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6900177#paper

    My matchups were

    2-0 Taxes

    2-0 Eldrazi

    2-0 Necrodominance

    1-2 Taxes

    2-0 UR Delver

    2-0 Ub Reanimator

    Top8: 2-1 Oops All Spells

    Top4: 2-1 Moon Stompy

    Finals: 2-0 Jeskai Fish

    Decklist felt really really strong not sure Id change much. LOTV is super critical in turning off all the oops in the current meta. Duress is more or less a flex slot. Long live reanimator!

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    2025/02/02
    20:45 UTC

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    New legacy player: need to pick a deck between Goblins and D&T. Any advice?

    Looking for a "relatively" easy financial entry into the format and have landed on either Goblins or Death & Taxes. I originally wanted to invest in Elves, but can't justify the initial costs for a playset of Cradles.

    Goblins (on the surface) appears to be more fun than D&T to pilot, but appears to have died down in recent months.

    Any advice and are either of these two decks worthy of a long-term investment?

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    2025/02/02
    02:43 UTC

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    Oops vs Br Reanimator for 1K

    I have an upcoming 1K at the end of February and I have both decks sleeved up, which one would you recommend for an unknown meta?

    I’m comfortable with both decks, so that’s a non-issue for me.

    Both lists are pretty standard, my sbs are built for my local meta which will probably need tweaking come event time.

    But yeah, thoughts? Concerns? Help me decide.

    Oops or Reanimator

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    2025/02/01
    01:10 UTC

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    Mono Black Pox Deck Building Formula Q1 2025

    Here is current up to date deck building guide for Pox for Quarter 1 of 2025. This is meant for a basic guideline so you can get an idea how most competitive Pox lists end up, but won’t hold up for everything relative to Pox. Following this formula has helped me get 8 5-0 Pox trophies last year.

    If you want to get more serious about the Pox deck instead of playing Pox for memes I recommend giving it a shot. It may or may not work for you. Not everyone wants to play someone else’s exact 75 so that is part of why this write up exists so you can get an idea what you can do differently with the deck while also still possibly being competitive with it.

    Main Deck

    3-4x Orcish Bowmasters: This creature provides a counter play for Pox to work with while being a creature that breaks the symmetry of Smallpox.

    4x Dark Ritual: The fast starts are needed even for a grindy control deck, the card disadvantage is compensated with powering out your cards earlier and some of these cards even provide card advantage to neutralize the card loss.

    4x Thoughtseize: Best one mana targeted discard you have access to.

    2-4x One Drop Creature Removal Spells: Innocent Blood is the main contender as Pox is the deck trying to answer all creatures vs specific creatures, but Fatal Push and Bloodchief’s Thirst are also good choices. Having dedicated slots for one drop removal for Pox is critical for deck building as it affects Pox’s overall performance when going second.

    2-4x One Mana Artifacts for Urza’s Saga: The minimum number ran should be equal to the amount of Urza’s Saga being ran. The main contenders for these slots is a grave hate artifact like Nihil Spellbomb or Ghost Vacuum and then a copy of Retrofitter Foundry to assist Urza’s Saga beat down plan.

    4x Smallpox: Namesake card of the deck.

    2x Sheoldred’s Edict: The most flexible edict Pox has access to. Having the option to take out a Planeswalker or a Marit Lage is really big.

    4x Liliana of the Veil: The most Pox synergistic Planeswalker ever printed and is still playable in the deck. Repeatable discard with an edict effect. If you’re lucky you can even reduce your opponent’s board with her ultimate.

    2x Ensnaring Bridge or Barrowgoyf: Ensnaring Bridge is the choice to go for when wanting to support a prison control type of build like Karn Pox. If you want to be more proactive with the deck, Barrowgoyf is a great card offensively and defensively. A single turn cycle of Barrowgoyf can get out of control quickly.

    1x Crucible of Worlds: This card helps ensure you make your land drops by rebuilding your mana after you lose them to your Smallpox or lands with self sacrifice properties. It’s been proven bad in multiples.

    2x Karn, the Great Creator or 2-4x The One Ring: Mono Black Pox is generally optimized at a 27 land count and 4 Dark Rituals so the curve is usually right for a few 4 mana cards. The choice between these two varies on what gameplan for Pox you want to execute. Karn is best in a Prison Control list where you want to lock out the game and The One Ring looks better in lists that are playing more aggressively with like Lhurgoyf support and higher count of Urza’s Saga to close the game before you lose to life loss. It’s also possible to merge both together as Karn can turn One Ring into a creature that can sacrifice to Smallpox, but that build is a bit too clunky for me to advocate.

    27-28 Land Manabase: I have no mathematical breakdown at this time for why this is the most favorable land count when it comes to positive Pox tournament finishes, but I imagine a lot of it has to do with all the self mana taxing Smallpox does to the deck. Basically the idea is to be able to Smallpox, but to rebuild your mana as soon as possible. The mana base is really stretched generally as the deck wants to be doing something productive even when it is flooding out. This land count was started by Adachi Ryosuke, if you don’t know who he is please look him up and you’ll see his name all over the place for paper Pox events. People make a critical mistake in my opinion by messing with this land count too much because they believe the land count is too many and cut multiple lands for more spells just to be mana taxed out of casting their own things long term.

    27 Land Base Example:

    4x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 4x Mishra’s Factory 4x Wasteland 2x Castle Locthwain 2x Urza’s Saga 1x Takenuma, Abandoned Mire 1x Maze of Ith 9x Swamp

    *A well rounded mana base from personal experience, you have multiple different lands to sink your mana into when you aren’t casting anything for the turn and the 4 Urborgs provide security in that you are able to get BB mana together on two lands consistently while also being on colorless lands. Smallpox and Liliana filter out the excess Urborgs so 4 Urborg is usually the optimal number to go with.

    Sideboard

    4x or more Graveyard hate cards: There is a really high variance of decks in Legacy that utilize their grave in some meaningful capacity so having a sideboard of up to 6 cards for grave hate isn’t unheard of. Leyline of the Void is normally maxed out when played and is to combat busted graveyard combos, but relies on heavy mulligans. Pox can also make use out of Faerie Macabre, Surgical Extraction, and the best non Leyline Grave hate is Ghost Vacuum which Pox should definitely consider using.

    2x Opposition Agent: Applicable to most decks with searching and is more often a blow out for the opponent especially when you pull it off early with a Dark Ritual.

    2x or more Plague Engineer, Toxic Deluge, other board wipes: Pox generally does better when it’s running cards that can deal with 2+ creatures on a single card, this is especially true in match-ups where there is more creatures being ran than Pox runs in removal.

    1x Pithing Needle: This card is retrievable by Urza’s Saga and Karn, the Great Creator and is great for stopping activated abilities Pox has trouble interacting with. You normally board it in when you need an immediate answer as Karn plus loyalty activation and waiting a turn can be too slow at times.

    Karn Targets: this is what I advocate for Pox to run at minimum when running Karn.

    My advocated line up: 1x Pithing Needle 1x Ghost Vacuum 1x Liquimetal Coating 1x Ensnaring Bridge 1x Mycosynth Lattice 0-1x Torpor Orb

    Optional cards to fill up the deck

    For the Main Nethergoyf Barrowgoyf (can be played even if on bridges, provides a wall so small creatures can’t squeeze through while you’re downsizing your hand still) Karn’s Sylex Inquisition of Kozilek Hymn to Tourach Fell the Profane The Tabernacle at Pendrellvale Etc.

    For the Side Barrowgoyf Chains of Mephistopheles The Tabernacle at Pendrellvale Snuff Out Force of Despair Karn, the Great Creator (in artifact heavy meta 2 Karn might not be enough) Null Rod Damping Sphere Powder Keg Etc.

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    2025/01/30
    20:14 UTC

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    Mastering Control: The Jeskai Approach

    Zac and Phil invite FenrusCloud to delve into the intricacies of control decks in Magic, particularly focusing on Jeskai Control.

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    2025/01/30
    13:03 UTC

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    I just finished my first ever legacy deck and i keep hearing i made a mistake in deck choice. Am i cooked?

    So, im not an unexperienced magic player, but i am in legacy. Ive been a quiet sectator for the last 3 or 4 years. Im mostly a modern player, so what ended up drawing me to the format was the staples. Force, brainstorm, daze, wasteland, fast mana and so forth. After the eternal weekend last year i made the decition to get into the format and got my first deck. I wanted a list that played as many of the staples as possible and had some of the o' to famous broken legacy interactions.

    I ended up getting Doomsday, the stock list currently around, dimir (Sultai bc of edge og autuum).

    So a played for the first time last week, it was a casual event, ive been doing my homework on the kill lines, piles and how to draft based on possible hatecards.

    It didnt go that well, since im not super sure on the format in its entirety i made misplays. I got destroyed by nullrod a few times, made wrong piles, and killed myself sometimes. I tried not taking up to much time making piles as i know it can be a bad expierence for the opponent.

    The reason for me writing here is based on the fact that many people (who were nice) kept asking why on earth i would build doomsday over dimir reanimator as a nooby. I went home having gotten alot of good advice, but i feel kind of deflated as well. Should i just make the switch? Its only about a 200 dollar switch since i have alot of the cards.

    Edit: grammer, english not my first language

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    2025/01/29
    17:34 UTC

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    Legacy’s NEWEST Combo deck! Doomsday + Ad Nauseam Tendrils

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    2025/01/29
    17:05 UTC

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    Eldrazi Sideboard Question

    Sneak and Show is over-represented in my local meta (~20%). I’m playing a stock build of Eldrazi Aggro but I’m looking for a good sideboard plan.

    [[Disruptor Flute]] is what I have now, but it feels meh as I have to guess which side of the combo they have.

    Thanks for the help!

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    2025/01/29
    15:49 UTC

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    LED’s and Ruby Storm

    Hey everyone. I’ve got a playset of LED’s and have ruby storm built. Love the deck but want to mess around with my LED’s. Any spicy builds/weird interactions you’d suggest? I obviously know about most other storm decks. Im open to any and all decks and brews. Also, would love to find a place that discusses Ruby Storm. I heard about a discord but don’t know if it is still active. Thanks everyone!

    15 Comments
    2025/01/29
    14:37 UTC

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    Bazaar of Boxes Series 14 | double ELM Qualifier tournament [Paper Legacy]

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    2025/01/29
    12:07 UTC

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    I TOP8'd TWO Legacy Tournaments with JESKAI CONTROL!

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    2025/01/28
    18:49 UTC

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    2025/01/28
    18:22 UTC

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    PHIL ABANDONS TERMINUS

    Zac and Phil discuss the evolving landscape of control decks in legacy, focusing on the declining viability of Terminus in the current meta. They explore alternative strategies, including the use of Dress Down and the potential pivot to Dreadnought as a response to the changing dynamics of the game.

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    2025/01/28
    13:05 UTC

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