And I thought it was great/appropriate for the characters/the show, not only do multiple friends bring up the whole hey should you guys really be getting married (Bertie, Kevin, Chris)?, Gus and Micky do as well-when they are like, ok maybe we shouldn’t get married, this is super rash right?! To me, that was the writers acknowledging how crazy and impulsive it was that they were getting married, and even the characters knew it. So to me it made sense that they (the writers and characters) do know it’s rash and crazy to get married and they still have a bunch of stuff to work on, but they don’t care, the relationship moved a hundred (85 lol) miles per hour. Will they last? Who knows. Maybe not. But in the end I think it would be a positive experience for both the main characters.

So the episode where she’s trying to reconnect with Shawn, there are times where she says she’s doing better, but then when birdie by accident tells Shawn about Dustin, instead of taking ownership she’s upset with birdie.. and there’s so many more examples of when she gets mad at people for things that she has done or things they should be mad at her for. Next example, when they’re at the wedding, Gus keeps saying he doesn’t want to meet up with Sarah and Micky keeps pushing him and he gives in and says ok.. think back when Micky sees Dustin at the movie theatre and she’s like let’s avoid him, I don’t want to see him, and Gus supports her decision. And now she’s mad he didn’t tell her about the engagement.. when we all know about the Dustin thing. She sucks. I wish I remembered how exactly I felt about the show when I watched it (I remember I loved it and I still do) but I wish I remembered how I felt about Micky. I wonder if being older now (I’m 30 opposed to 24) had changed my opinion.

Does anyone think this episode is a good indicator of what life could have been like for Gus if he didn’t get with Mickey?

Mickey was off causing so much drama and chaos with her ex’s. She swore on her friend’s baby’s life that she didn’t cheat- nobody really gives her shit for lying about that, that’s so immensely fucked up.

On the other side, Gus was having a great time jamming, joking and hitting it off with that blonde girl about tattoos, and getting a pep talk on the phone with his actual good friends.

I don’t know why Gus kept it up with Mickey, she was a total unhinged bull in a China shop that night. I feel like this episode is a great indicator of what was to come for Gus and he still chose Mickey.

With Heidi’s sex scene where she’s saying all that crazy stuff about being a witch and this and that (you know what I mean if you’ve seen it), does anyone actually find that attractive or a turn-on or anything?

That is all.

Just finished the series and I only wish there were more seasons. I absolutely loved it and all the crazy cast of characters.

And it's pretty dark to have Gus and Mickey get married in such a rushed way given how their relationship is somewhat toxic, especially since Mickey cheated on Gus (which hadn't seemed to really be addressed in the show at all). Overall it was a good series though it felt like it tried to promote that kind of relationship as somewhat healthy, at least until the end when that itself is addressed, but then they go and still get married which was whack)

Ok this is my second time watching Love besides when it first came out—can still confirm I absolutely love this show and am enjoying the familiarity but am so happily surprised with how much I forgot—so it’s like a semi new show!

Just finished season two and I’m having a hard time accepting Micky’s actions (not that we have to, kinda the whole premise of the show—I know she’s flawed, we all are), but I just find she gaslights Gus so much and makes the worst come out of him. Example the Witchita finale—when he’s trying to tell her it was important to him she be there, she acts like Andy’s issue was more important (which I do get sobriety is) but instead of just listening and hashing it out she starts putting him down saying the show sucks, etc etc. escalating and breaking a bowl.

Another example is when he leaves for Liberty Down, she goes, I don’t do well with separation, you need to call me every day and if I text respond in 30 min.. so that’s what’s happening in the beginning but then she starts pulling away and ultimately feeling suffocated but not communicating it, then Gus starts to spiral because what he knows is what she told him. And then he’s the bad guy for it.

Anyways, not faulting Mickey persay because this show is painfully real and so relatable (hell, I’ve done things Mickey has) but, im just saying I don’t really see it two sided, I see this as a fun, life changing/growing/learning relationship for both but ultimately kinda toxic for Gus.

I still have to rewatch season three! So maybe my opinion will change :) and I do love them both & all the characters.

Mark Oliver Everett plays Shaun's husband, Brian, and he is the lead singer of the 'Eels', a great band if you haven't heard. A few of the songs used in the show are from the Eels. I was obsessed with them in high school, and I recognized him during my first watch when the show came out and thought that was pretty neat, since I had no idea he acted. I realized not many people had posted about him in this sub, so I wanted to give him a bit of "Love"! <3

Check out 'Fresh Feeling' if you're interested in some good songs by the Eels!

She nailed that person who flirts the line of a really cool, fun, nice person, and an unhinged, slightly tone deaf psycho. I didn’t really like her character the very first time I watched but I found myself cracking up during ep 8 and 9.

I think this was such a perfect show. It's definitely one of my favorites of all time. But I really wish they could have included gus' siblings more. They were such good characters with great personalities but they were barley in the show. Missed opportunity

There's gonna be some spoilers ahead about a thing from the 1rst and 2nd season that I've seen popping up on a bunch of forums

This is my 2nd time watching Love, and I've really dug deep into the characters and what drives their personalities. If you're interested in reading my take, I've left it at this link. One thing I love about this series is that nobody's the hero who saves the day and we see situations repeating, sometimes it's Mickey and other times it's Gus, so we get to see how each one reacts to problems and how they solve them together.

Spoiler alert:>! Regarding Dustin and Mickey, yeah, Mikey and Gus moved forward in their relationship, but it had only been a month when Gus went on his trip and the Wichita episode happened, where Kevin warned him not to get too attached to Mickey because he talked like they'd been together for 2 years. We see during the trip they argue because Mickey feels suffocated and Gus feels she's avoiding him. This situation echoes back to the beginning of Season 1 when Gus slept with Heidi a day after his date with Mickey. She later reveals she knows when someone wants to sleep with Gus, so maybe she sensed something happened with Heidi and Gus confirmed it during their argument on set. Probably the same thing happened when their friends told him they found Mickey hiking with another guy, which even surprised Gus, but he didn't ask again, maybe beacuse he went to the support meetings. These situations aren't about tit-for-tat, but about see these things can happen to both, so it's important to set boundaries and have good communication to know where they stand. Both struggled with this because they wanted their space but also felt dependent on each other.!<

This got me thinking: does time make things exclusive? If you're not exclusive but have feelings, would you be willing to hear if the person sleeps with others? Would you get mad if it's not exclusive, but the person decides on their own not to sleep with others and then does? (Which was also characteristic of Mickey, saying 'no' and then 'yes,' confusing Gus, but Gus has control issues, etc). Would you be with someone with this kind of addiction/personality?

From my point of view, >!Gus sleeping with Heidi, avoiding Mickey, and making her out to be crazy in front of everyone on set is just as serious as Mickey sleeping with Dustin, avoiding Gus, and not telling him what happened (speaking of their relationship, but Mickey doing this also creates a new conflict for Dustin, seeing that he's going to therapy. That's a whole other topic... maybe it's the equivalent of Heidi losing her job). Time brought them closer, so it feels like a betrayal, but we see Mickey liked Gus from the start. !<In both situations, they weren't exclusive but had feelings, the difference was time.

What do you think?

SPOILER WARNING Analyzing the characters' behavior throughout the series, you'll uncover various decisions and traits. If you're interested, I wrote about Dustin and Mickey's situation.

Hello everyone! I took the task of analyzing the characters more seriously (maybe I analyzed too much, don't take it too seriously), and wanted to share it with someone. This is the 2nd time I've watched the series, and something I like about it is that there isn't a character who is "the one who saves the day," but rather they are people trying to live, survive, and learn. This doesn't mean they're bad people, it's just part of their personality, and that's the point of the series.

1. Gus: He's a character who pleases people to the point of allowing behaviors that affect him, comments, and even changing his opinion, lie and hide things, making him an unstable and an untrustworthy person. Probably because he represses his true self, he is aggressive, passive-aggressive, victimizing, and vengeful, as well as egocentric and controlling for being a nerd. This may be due to his family dynamics, a traditional family where his siblings are bullies except for his sister, his parents do not defend him and he doesn't find an affinity with them, so he pretends to be someone else to fit in and avoids conflicts, being the family's goofy one to relax the atmosphere, so he struggles to defend himself in real life and leave his comfort zone, thus bringing out his controlling personality to ensure that things go according to his plan.

• Fact: Being a complacent person, nobody expects him to act aggressively, so I feel that it has more impact when he shows his anger. Example of toxic acts: >!he allowed Mickey to steal things to avoid conflicts with her, in every argument he began with passive-aggressive comments and "I would have done it this way" (control issues), he gaslighted Mickey several times and left Mickey at the hotel where the wedding was to leave his ex unharmed, tried to get revenge on Bertie on his date just because she didn't like him.!<

1. Mickey: There is not much to say about her because she is a character who shows her personality from the beginning. She is impulsive, with her problems, unstable, indecisive, with a strong temper, and sometimes explosive. In addition to the problems already addressed by the series, we see that she acts on impulse to avoid situations or for fun, such as sleeping with other people, causing conflicts on purpose and not respecting people's boundaries (taking things without permission or even stealing), so she allows people to use her at will and she uses people without thinking about the consequences, and only takes responsibility for her actions if she gets caught and has no choice but to tell the truth. Probably it is because of her family dynamics, especially with her father, where she is insulted, ignored, and treated as if she were worth nothing (I would dare to say that she has low self-esteem) and I will assume that her mother is absent because, although they get along well, she never appears in the series. Unlike Gus, she faces situations as they come.

• Fact: Being a "rebel" person, she is not expected to have dependence and fear of abandonment. She, like Gus, is used to bullies, so she allows people to treat her badly. Example of toxic acts: >!several times she took things without permission (like Bertie's blouses and stole things), she allowed strange people to enter her house (she didn't know Bertie and Gus well), the impulsive decision to say f*ck it all, either ending the relationship or sleeping with people; she has the wound of abandonment, so whenever things are bad, she tries to please the person and abandons herself (something that Gus emphasized when he was not careful with the flu. Another toxic treatment from Gus, as he didn't comment to take care of her, but blamed her because he got sick).!<

1. Bertie: I would believe that she is a combination of both, but she is also accommodating with people, with the difference that she is direct with what she thinks or affects her. She has a little more assertive communication, although she has failed on certain occasions to avoid conflict. If she doesn't like the situation or the person makes her uncomfortable, she comments on it and walks away.
2. Dr. Greg: He was the character I tolerated the least, and I feel that Mickey didn't say or do anything about it because it is the personality she is used to, like her father. He is a narcissistic character, where even during and after his book talk, he wasn't concerned with continuing to affect the lives of the people who consulted him, but how bad that was leaving him and that his ranking was being affected. He wasn't interested in changing, only playing the victim and showing that he is right, so he left in doubt whether what he said about the reasons why he fired the other girls he worked with was true.
3. Chris: Sometimes I found him more uncomfortable than Gus's character, but he made me understand that they're all a reflection of not meeting the stereotype of being 30 and having your life resolved, having dreams that people may doubt, having tastes or a personality different from the rest, but how important it is to have real friends with whom to share and who support you in your decisions. Just thinking about your responsibilities like working all day can be lonely.
4. Randy: The only thing I can say about him is >!about the episode where he cooks for Mickey and her friends and sabotages the idea of ​​learning cooking and being a chef, that really get me. !<He gets angry with others for leaving him or betraying him, but deep down he knows why they do it, but he doesn't change. He has serious self-esteem problems and probably perception of reality, of people... Finally,

My views: I like that they show the internal conflict that each one has to leave their comfort zone, not only to go out with someone with personalities different from what they were used to but to show what interests them and that the other person doesn't like at first, until they accept that they don't have to agree always and look for a middle ground between their tastes. In the first two episodes we realize that Mickey likes Gus because she follows along with his jokes even if she thinks it's weird, for example.

In the last episode, they discover that communication is important, but it took a long time to realize this. There is a lot of passive-aggressiveness that even reaches insults and the decision not to continue, but it feels as if in the end they don't talk about the topic well to solve it. For this reason, despite the fact that the series has been canceled, I feel that the ending is open (even in the credits music, it is hinted), so it isn't known if they will really solve things and everything will be stable. As Mickey said, just try to do your best every day.

I highlight that during the series, situations are repeated to give us an idea of ​​how each one, from their personality and point of view, deals with that situation, for example, when they meet each other's family: >!Mickey says that her father is nice and does not give her warnings about what her personality is like, so she gets angry when Gus agrees with her father, and Gus speaks a little badly about his family and gets upset when Mickey gets along with them.!<

I think this is all I wanted to comment. Thank you for reading! don't forget that I will leave where you can read my point of view about Dustin and Mickey's situation.

I saw this and I HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE TO POST IT! This exact moment shows white shoes that are hanging from the power lines!

This show is in the same city as Like Mike, where he initially finds those pair of shoes hanging from the power lines! See picture attached for the scene from Love, and the exact episode and time!

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It’s no longer on Netflix (US)

I always try searching for a super cut of the songs they do bu can never find it. It was sooo funny

Hello! This show is my absolute favorite show of all time (I've seen in probably 30+) times, and would love to commemorate how much I love it with a tattoo! I'm having trouble thinking of good tattoo ideas if anyone can help me come up with one? Thanks :)

Anyone see the movie Flower with Zoey Deutch? Her character is exactly how I picture a young Mickey. Her humor, the way she handles herself, the chaos and trauma that lead to Mickey's issues later in life, even the way Zoey looks, all make me want to believe that somehow this is Mickey's prequel.

I know it's not, and I don't think the movie or show are related in any way, but the connection seems strong to me. Anyone else notice this?

Hey Love fans -

I recently started watching Shameless, and one of the main characters is named (Phil)Lip Gallagher. I may be misremembering, but I feel like Gus and his friends wrote a movie theme song that had the name Phillip Gallagher in it. I can't find the episode where they sing that song. I don't think it's the one where Heidi comes to Gus' apartment, and I also don't think it's the one where they perform their songs at the bar in Season 3.

Appreciate any help in ID'ing the episode!

Rewatching Love after doing years of therapy. Big hate towards Mickey🥵

Id love a spinoff about arya Thats it thats the post

i tried googling it but nothing came up

Haven't watched this show in years, and yet I think and I talk about it all the time.

WHAT EPISODE IS THIS FROM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRahalvvDwM

Also, I am doing some acting exercises and I love Gus's character, so if you have any other Gus focused dramatic scene suggestions ! Let me know. It would be super appreciated.