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Interdisciplinary examination of lockdowns & other pandemic policies. We acknowledge the threat of COVID-19. We are also concerned about the policies' impact on our physical & mental health, human rights, and economy.

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For lockdown skeptics - those concerned about the impact of COVID-19 lockdown / quarantines on our freedoms, human rights, physical and mental health, and economy. We are skeptical of an ongoing lockdown as an effective way to manage the coronavirus pandemic.

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HHS spent $911M on COVID vaccine messaging, 'consistently overstated' virus risk to kids, damning House report finds

6 Comments
2024/10/30
18:35 UTC

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Review of COVID response finds Australians unlikely to accept lockdowns again

Not the total whitewash I was expecting, but still pretty mealy mouthed.

Things in the article that stuck out to me.

"Trust has also been eroded, and many of the measures taken during COVID-19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again," the reviewers said.

While they did not draw conclusions about the appropriateness of those measures, they did find that decision-makers often failed to give enough weight to the human rights implications of their decisions

"Governments could legitimately restrict certain human rights in implementing their response to COVID-19 … [But] some restrictions were poorly justified in extent and/or duration, disproportionate to the risk and inconsistently applied across the country," they said.

"While the type and timing of the next pandemic remains uncertain, we can be assured that it is likely to occur within our lifetime."

we have a responsibility … to build a high-level playbook for the next pandemic, because we know there will be a next pandemic…

The government would seek to have a new Centre for Disease Control, a national public health body which was a key Labor election promise, operational by January 2026.

They made similar criticism of state lockdowns and mask mandates, saying these were not often guided by rigorous evidence and real-time evaluation.

The reviewers said lockdowns eroded public trust and had "lost credibility with the Australian public."

The reviewers noted there was a perception some restrictions, especially curfews and movement restrictions, were more about facilitating policing than supporting the health response.

The reviewers added the impact of restrictions on children and population-wide mental health were "likely to be felt for some time," and that children's rights and rights of people in aged care were "deprioritised" to support the public health response.

The reviewers also noted the erosion of trust caused by vaccine mandates, which it linked to present-day "vaccine fatigue" and the lack of ongoing COVID immunisation.

And it called for further research into the prevalence, effects and treatment of long COVID, noting that while newer variants appeared less likely to lead to long COVID the phenomenon was still poorly understood.

OP Comment : I'm wondering if the exact same strain of the virus retains it's ability to cause "long covid", in areas of the world, that are still boosting heavily(assuming anyone even is these days).

21 Comments
2024/10/29
23:13 UTC

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COVID jab CV adverse effects not so transient after all

There’s so much recent evidence on cardiovascular side effects of COVID-19 vaccines, especially of the non-transient variety, published in the medical journals that I can’t keep up, and in the context of Takada et al., which has now attracted a lot of attention. Of course, the mainstream narrative continues to be that cardiovascular effects of the jabs are rare and generally transient. We go through a bunch of these articles, and the news report that heart attacks are up in young Americans, here.

1 Comment
2024/10/28
07:52 UTC

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Do you consider the economy “recovered” in the USA?

You look on google and so many links say the economy is better than ever. How is it possible they can write such a thing 😂

59 Comments
2024/10/26
23:00 UTC

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Do you think COVID-19 was released intentionally or by accident?

So it’s been five years since the mysterious “pneumonia-like disease” was first detected in Wuhan, China. And it’s been almost five years since the pandemic was declared and the “15 days to slow the spread” was announced. I think by this point, everyone on this sub knows that this is not a natural-born virus. The rest of Reddit will probably defend the natural origin theory to their grave, but the amount of FOIA deleted emails that have been released showing all the lies and cover-ups and proposals to do mutative research on novel coronaviruses have pointed out the obvious. Even if we’re forgetting all of that, just the fact that COVID is still mutating and going around in waves after five years should be a telling sign that something’s up. Most viruses die out on its own after some time due to all the immunity that gets built up to fight said viruses. Just think about Swine Flu, Zika Virus, Ebola, the first SARS. Anyway, what I want to ask on this sub, is do you think there was any kind of villainous reason why anyone would want this genetically mutated virus released and spread all across the world? Or do you believe this was simply an unfortunate accident and everyone who was involved in funding the Wuhan lab is just trying to cover it up because they don’t want all the global turmoil that followed on their conscience?

I personally believe that this virus could’ve been released because the Chinese government wanted to put an end to the 2019 Hong Kong Protests and because U.S. scientists who were funding gain-of-function research desperately wanted Donald Trump to lose his 2020 reelection bid. And I say this as someone who cannot stand Trump. The timing of exactly when this pandemic began was just absurdly weird timing. This virus appeared and started ravaging its way everywhere right as A.) one of the biggest demonstration movements in recent history was tearing up Hong Kong and sending Chinas economy into recession and B.) One of the most polarizing, egotistical politicians who survived two impeachment attempts was running for reelection. And again, I am by no means a Trump supporter. What do you guys think? Was there some sort of nefarious intent as to why this virus was released to the world? Or do you think the timing was just coincidence and this was just a terrible lab accident?

87 Comments
2024/10/24
05:30 UTC

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What’s the dumbest thing you’ve been downvoted for re: covid?

I just got downvoted on another sub for saying it was right that the world has moved on from the pandemic and it’s not as though we are in the same situation that we were in four (nearly five now) years ago. Of course comments going on about how the pandemic “isn’t over” and seemingly complaining that everyone has moved on and “forgotten” about covid were upvoted.

I don’t know what these people expect. It was obvious that things would get back to normal eventually. Did anyone seriously expect any different?

People will say “but long covid!” and while I can sympathise with anyone suffering from this, the fact of the matter is most people won’t get any serious long-term complications from covid. They quote all these statistics but they don’t really tell us much without context e.g. how this data is collected and how long covid is being defined, the severity of their complications, whether they had any pre-existing medical conditions (some of which could have been undiagnosed) and so on and so forth!

Nobody I know cares about covid anymore or even talks about it that much. I seldom see any face masks either and people are generally acting the same as they did before 2020. I haven’t got an issue with that. What else are we supposed to do really?

It just goes to show that Reddit is by no means representative of the wider population. Perhaps because this platform attracts a lot of shut ins and people who spend far too much time online.

93 Comments
2024/10/22
20:41 UTC

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