I know the car he was in was driven off a cliff and he was presumed to have been killed, but A: his body was never found, only his Wife's and B: Stabler expressed uncertainty and seemed to think he may have survived. It seems to be angling for some kind of setup, so do you think he will return?

Organized Crime is Leagues Ahead of SVU and The Mothership in terms of writing and it’s not even funny. While Olivia Benson character is becoming stagnant in SVU. Elliot Stabler just keeps growing as a Character and Person each season. Makes me wonder who’s writing each show tbh cuz it can’t be the same people

I mean you never know with these writers but for some reason I can’t shake off this feeling that Joe Junior is going to either end up in prison or he’s going to get killed off somehow. I’m leaning towards the latter. I just don’t think he’s going to have a happy ending. But then again, who does on this show? What do you guys think? Am I wrong? Am I overthinking this?

Originally, Noah was born in 2007, but they have to have bumped him up a couple of years, right? Are we to believe he hooked up with that older girl/woman in season 2 (2021) when he was 14? How did he get into college so early?

I’m fine with aging a TV kid if they’re consistent with it. (Same thing with Noah in SVU, whose little-kid books in his bedroom seem too far out of date for Olivia to be getting rid of now).

(I’m reminded that I want to ask about what Elliot knows about Olivia and William Lewis and other traumas, but I’ll leave that ome for later and for the SVU sub.)

It’s no question that stabler child that shares his father’s name is the one to echo his path. It makes me wonder who Elliot was as a teenager, because when you look at Eli, you see this skinny kid who doesn’t have the makings of being a cop. It also boggles my mind that the most vocally annoyed by his father’s job, is the one making the choice to choose that same career.

But we also know that Elliot became a cop because of his father, because he wanted his love and support. I do sincerely believe in Bernie when she said he wanted to be an architect. But those dreams faded because of his father. And then he gets his girlfriend pregnant when they’re both so young. He did what he felt he needed to do for her and so that his family wouldn’t be angry. But those choices also lead him to make a lot sacrifices, and a life that would constantly haunt with cases so impossible to handle. Not to mention the ongoing and complicated relationship with his long, suffering partner.

The truth of the matter is that I’m terrified Elliot will give in and let Eli do this. Because it would just be the circle continuing and never ending.

The music, the videography, obviously the acting and writing were better than the entire season (honestly, seasons) of SVU combined.

to be honest, while I might not be that invested in the plot, I kind of zone out, OC is just so much more of a joy to watch. I also feel like it naturally pulls on the heartstrings more than Olivia's storylines (over the last 10+ years) ever will.

I'm only a few minutes into the finale so maybe it will all go to hell - but the intro was amazing.

I think it may be Vargas, I don’t want it to be, but it almost makes the most sense. They had him do so much technologically with this case and he basically took over what jet does on most episodes. He was there when they found out emery’s men were caught or dead.

Also I feel like it would be the most hurtful to the team to experience that betrayal and they seem to do the most extreme thing every season.

Does Organized Crime being picked up by peacock mean that Benson and Carisi will no longer be on the show?

Dean Norris is going to be a guest on “In the Kitchen with Harry Hamlin” on Wednesday, May 22, 22:00 EST IFC channel. It’s only a half hour show and not a regular type of cooking show. (Bobby Moynihan was this weeks guest 😆)

Just thought I’d let you know.

1. Do you all think they will continue this Joe/Emery storyline next season or do you think it will fade into the background as a b-plot?
2. Will Vargas and the ATF girl (can’t remember her name) will stick around?
3. And not completely OC, but is the Benson & Stabler storyline over? (If I gave someone a $10,000 necklace and they gave it away I’d be a little pissed/discouraged😂)

…any other questions or predictions??

When the ATF Bureau plans a raid of Redcoat’s warehouse, Trisha promises to help Stabler keep Joe Jr. safe. Bell comes face to face with the man who killed Sam. Another Stabler family dinner causes tensions to run high.

So, what do you think is going to happen next week in the season finale? I've seen the preview but am curious how you think everything will play out.

Will anyone get hurt or killed? Will it end in a cliffhanger or tie the season up neatly with a bow?

Did anyone else notice that Jet and Vargas use basically the exact same technique to bypass Redcoat's server security measures that Richard Wheatley and Sebastian McClane use to bypass the IDS and put their malware onto the NYSE servers in Season 2? (Power outage and exploiting the window for the backup generator and IDS reboot to connect while the security is offline for a split second).

I almost wish Reyes would have questioned "what just happened?" over the radio and then Jet just responds back with "I learned that trick from Wheatley and McClane" as an acknowledgement. Either way though, it's a better sign when the writing is showing that they remember what happened in the past, since that was sorely missing in Season 3.

Stabler and Randall give Joe Jr. the choice to get clean or go to prison. Vargas and Jet's plan to cut off Emery's smuggling routes leads to a dangerous rescue attempt.

I’ve been watching Organized Crime and even though it does have problems (Mainly killing off characters that should not be killed off) it’s the only law and order show that I like as of now that I care about what’s going on. SVU and the Reboot of Law & Order are just weak honestly.

What is the point of having Vargas on OC? He's doing the same thing that Jet was doing very well on her own. Was there something I missed as to why he was added?

does anyone else think Joey could be undercover as well? like he got tapped by CIA (or other agency) while in the military and they helped him with his cover? just throwing it out there on the off chance he is some kind of undercover agent. im probably wrong, i just saw something in the look in his eyes on the last scene.

The acting by most of the actors is superb, but this writing is ridiculous. The arc with the beach murderer was stupid even for a daytime drama, but again, great acting by the sheriff and stabler. Vargas should be booted, and the whole "comedy" punchline is just weird for such a dramatic show.

Why can't we get a normal long arc like the Albanian mafia, with the amazing characters that were there?

The last two episodes, when the ATF agent was following Stabler, before she ever caught him, I yelled at my TV, “don’t worry, she’s a fellow cop.” And lo and behold, she was. 😂

Then when Breaking Bad brother calls El and says he can’t find Joe, I yelled again, “because he’s working for redcoat.” Dun dun 😂

I say this because usually I hate when I can predict a show. It makes me uninterested and annoyed. But something about all the little twists and turns in between, the character development and fantastic dialogue along the way, keeps me invested and loving OC!

So we know there's 2 sisters, Dee and Sharon, but I couldn't find where exactly they were named. were their named actually ever mentioned? I couldn't find a single specific reference.

Seeing now at the end that "Jojo" was flying on the private jet of the top dog, and Sam's blood found in his brothers warehouse and the tip about Trisha, does this mean Jojo was the one who tipped them off to them both being cops? This might actually be the most twisted storyline yet and I'm here for it

What a awesome line