Trying to figure out the math of the gummies I bought which are 30mg of mitragynine per gummy via an extract

It is important to say that objective measurements favor the consumer while subjective measurements favor the supplier. This would be the biggest reason why I dislike the "kratom strain" topic so much as it is essentially an entire industry of 'trust me bro' that has developed.

Marketing 101 calls for the diversification of product it so that consumers feel like they need to try more in order to get a real grasp of the market. Traditionally kratom strains were never a thing and only introduced into Asian markets by western business practices.

I could see an argument in favor of strains so long as the name is based on where the kratom was grown, however most all kratom strain names have been shown to be wildly misleading if not an outright lie; making them at best near useless and at worse deceptively misleading.

I advocate for consumers to only buy from a vendor if they have published lab results. Lab testing can be very expensive for a business however ironically, only small batch vendors are currently doing this practice and yet small batch vendors almost always have better pricing than the mega-vendors. If we were to calculate how much mitragynine you are getting for your money then its not even competitive. The big guys are good at getting to the front page of Google but other than that they aren't really good at anything.

Maybe its time to start buying only from vendors that have a high ethical standard and to stop buying from companies that thrive on secrecy and deception.

So I tried a 15,000mg tablet with piperine about 25 minutes before today's kratom, and I can't say that I feel any difference whatsover.

I really have my doubts aboout all these so called kratom potentiators. In my opinion and experience if the kratom is good it won't need potentiators. And this certainly doesn't seem to be making any difference.

I'm glad I only brougt a trial pack of 5 tablets!

For anyone that thinks this works for them, what kind of timings do you find works best for you, re with the pre-dosing or concurrent dosing of the supplement with the the kratom?

I know there are a lot of posts around here about tolerance reset, but many people are sayin shit like:

"Yeah I was taking 50gs a day, then I had 2 months break, and after that the first 5gs were awesome, but the second 5gs were just like 2 months before"

So is it possible to REALLY lower my tolerance to the point that I will be able to take 5gs a day again for a couple months? And if yes, then how long will it take?

(btw now Im taking like 30gs a day and I barely feel anything)

Thanks for any informations <3

If I take for example 10g of powder. If I redose about 30 to 45 minutes later will it just add to the dose before and prolong the effects? Or does it work differently than that?

Hi, i just started to get into kratom last year, Im on it maybe a week every month while it lasts, because its really expensive to ship.

but this week, i've ordered from the same website after maybe a 2 month break, i usually did Maeng Da, and this time I got, Super Green Malay, and i took around 2 doses less to account for me not doing it for a while, and I felt extremely dizzy and disorientated, don't know why, i've never had this problem, throughout the 2 days it's my 3rd time doing it now and the dizziness is kind of still there but way less, i didn't take a lot at all, maybe 2g,

im just a bit stressed, cause i've never had it before, just wondering if people ever had the same experience so i can feel more calm about it!!

Over the course of 2 ½ months I've tapered from fentanyl (been clean for 70 days off fent) all the way down to 60mg of pharma oxy a day. I'm at the point where I actually feel "high" off 20mg of oxy. I'm going to be quitting CT soon and want to use kratom to soften the WD. I'm only going to be using it for a week or so. Will it just prolonge my withdrawal or will it actually help without drawing things out? I also have over 200 xans, 20 ativans, 500 gabapentin tabs, a ounce of cbd bud (almost no thc so no anxiety) a few 20mg er oxy for emergencies, a 30 clonodine , 200 zophran and 100 lopermaid pills.

I’m looking for anecdotes. I’ve noticed that when I dose, even a small amount (500mg) that I sort of feel my heart beating out of my chest, and this feeling has been supported by having my top blood pressure number 20-30 points higher after taking kratom than on days when I don’t take it. I am curious if others have had a similar experience. I am using green vein, by the way, and I am usually taking it alongside a cup of coffee.

I’ve been taking Kratom 1-2 times (2 capsules a session) a week for the last month or so when I’ve been drinking. I usually get a nice buzz. How bad is it on my liver when I do this? Also, I have started to get cravings when I am not on it. Should I just quit so I don’t go down that path of addiction/withdrawl, I’m thinking I should. Lastly, does anyone know how it interacts with mood stabilizers and antidepressants? Thanks.

Hey everyone I use 20 Grams per day & I have chrohns so I’m wanting to make tea so I’m not taking so much raw plant stuff

I’m at the store picking up some ACV ( apple cider vinegar ), lemon juice & a cheese cloth

What’s the best way to do this

So, I'm not a regular user. Since 2019 I've been ordering occasionally. But boy when it arrives, I buzz until there is nothing left.

I researched tediously and came upon some materials in Russian. They were written by the guy who was, I believe, a really talented psychopharacologist. Sadly he passed away in 2019 or something, but some of his relatives or friends don't allow the channel to cease.

Don't get me wrong I'm not advertising or anything. In one of the articles he mentioned that kratom has antipsychotic properties. It stabilizes mood and somewhat prevents one from developing mental illnesses.

Do you agree with that? My woman said I become flat emotionally. I appear to her too calm.

What are your thoughts about this? How has kratom effected any of you as person? Are the effects positive for you?

Took a two month long tolerance break after some real heavy use talking like 600-900mg Mit per day for a period of time. Then I tapered down for a day or two and stopped cold turkey for two full months. Started using again and it’s like my tolerance never left. 40mg after 3 uses turned back into 200mg to feel effects. Can anyone relate to this. I want to recreationally use since I don’t need it daily as a crutch anymore but when I was blasting daily it’s almost like it worked better until it stopped working. Strange. Other substances after two months would be so strong effects could be uncomfortable but not with Kratom for me.

Since kratom repels water, and it seems to always feel bone dry, is it even possible for mold to grow on kratom? The organic material for colonization is there, but theoretically the fuel (moisture) should be absent. If anyone has had experience with finding moldy kratom can chime in, it'd be much appreciated.

For all of you that have been there, what steps did you take to lower your dose and was it better? I feel like a rare exception and rarely get sick, maybe 5 pukes a year. 250lb 6' feet tall and only 2 liters of water per day. Boredom doses at night with 10g 8am and 10g at noon. Giant 12" stool every morning. Only had to take a laxative 1 time in 2 years. No complaints and fully functional just feel odd that there's not many like me so I have a fear it could be damaging since I don't hear of many using this way. Should I take it only as a medicine? I take it this way because I no longer need mental meds and no longer drink booze. Works for me.

I have found it helps dramatically with the flavor. I hold my breath while taking it, then drink my juice.

If I have to breath, I do it through my mouth only. I wait a couple minutes before breathing through my nose again and it really cuts down on the nasty flavor.

Try in next time and you'll probably be surprised.

I'm even curious to hear from folks who maybe work in the industry or have even actually had it in SE Asia.

Since I discovered this incredible herb I've wished that I could grow it myself but alas the climate is not conducive, and it is a tree which obviously takes time.

What I'm curious about is, how much has changed since the herb became so increasingly popular elsewhere. Surely the demand has caused quite a lot of change, and I've heard some folks say that what's being harvested now is all new growth, potentially describing why potency seems to be lower than before for some. So anything, anyone in the know would like to share, I thought it could be a nice opportunity for the rest of us to learn more about the medicine we all love. Cheers!

Imagine your morning Starbucks or Dutch Bros with 1g kratom in a small, 2g in a medium, 4g in a large. Your choice of strains.

My son also suggests coffee pots in the DMV and other grouchy places should be offered as Regular, Decaf, and Kratom.

As John Lennon said, "Imagine all the people, Living for today..."

I previously have found that Red Kalimantan strain is my favorite for chronic pain relief so I almost always stick to that from the same company too, but the last couple of times I've gotten it I feel like it isn't working. That happened in November, I was taking it on and off for a month to see if it was just me, but even when I stopped in case my tolerance was up I would take a dose and nothing. So I tried a sample of something else, a white one, and back to normal. I ended up trying another company's red strains and that was fine but I just repurchased another Red Kali and same thing is happening.

Anyone have this issue? Or notice if you like Red Kali that it's lost it's potency?

Has anyone experienced morning only pain after years of use? I never wake up in the middle of the night to dose but maybe my tolerance for pain is gone? Before I take kratom can barely hold my coffee cup or move easily. This pain is completely gone after an hour or 2. I'm only 45 but im very hard on my body and work construction without days off. I guess my main question is has kratom killed my tolerance for pain, or is this something heavy use causes? It's very bad if I sleep on my back in bed but I dose at least 10g several times a day, 30-50 on average. I've never gone a day without a dose because the pain in the mornings is pretty intense.

I’m trying to get the right dosage but don’t have a scale on me :(. Just wondering for a comparison.

Thanks

I have to fly in a couple of days. I need to bring a bunch with me since I’ll be gone for a while.
My kratom is already In capsules. I’m not checking luggage.
Im so worried that they will see it in the X-ray or search my bag and find it and think im a drug mule.
Im flying with my kids.
What can I do? Heeeeeeelp!!!

Started taking an ssri a few months ago and I’ve noticed a difference in the way the Kratom works. Also starting to feel like they aren’t the best combo. Can anyone out there give me some more anecdotal info on how these two mix together? Thanks. I am going to bring it up with my Nuerologist next appt but wanted more info from the following first.

Thanks.

l've tapered from fentanyl all the way down to 60mg of pharma oxy a day. I'm going to be quitting CT soon and want to use kratom to soften the WD. I'm only going to be using it for a week or so. Will it just prolonge my withdrawal or will it actually help with drawing things out?

Found the strain I like and a good supplier now im Thinking about buying a kg just curious is it worth it and if so how do I store it?

Kentucky H.B. 293, An ACT Relating to Kratom, was signed today by Kentucky Governor Beshear and that makes Kentucky the 12th state with a Kratom Consumer Protection Act.

The passing of H.B. 293 represents the hard work and diligence of the kratom community. We thank all the kratom consumer advocates, the scientists, public officials, and vendors for speaking up and calling out the FDA’s propaganda and advocating for a safe and properly regulated consumer marketplace.

I had abdominal surgery two weeks ago. In this post-opioid world, I was released with 3 days of pain meds. Considering trying kratom, but I'm not sure how much or what kind, or if it would even help. Any thoughts are appreciated!

I usually don’t take the powder form. Will I mixed it with water and 1/2 hour later I feel super nauseous, weak, and somewhat having trouble breathing.

Okay so I am a frequent kratom user. I have been for a while now, yesterday all day long I kept having to use the bathroom and it was straight water poop (gross I'm sorry) but I dealt with that all day. Today I kinda just slept majority of the day. But before it was time for bed I drank a glass of water with my kratom mixed in. (I do usually take large amounts, I'm a addict ill admit it.) But this whole day I never had a water bowle movement UNTIL I just drank that glass. About 15-20 minutes later. I was wondering if this is a thing? Am I dumb? Does anyone else have any experience of this or am I just sick right now and it has nothing to do with kratom lol

It started a few years ago to curve my drinking of half a handle a day of whiskey. It has helped a lot. I recently went 5 days without it do to my kilos shipping late. I was met with constant knee pain, extreme soul crushing boredom and an inability to be interested in anything not even to pass the time. It felt like time was standing still for 5 days and I just couldn't wait for it to be over, I also could not sleep close to at all. I take the kratom at work on break. I take 7 grams at a time with tosh and wash. I just pack the powder into my dry mouth, and pour in the water. Swish the green death sludge around for a bit, till I can swallow without inhaling any of it. I then chug the water to make sure that seven grams (that were void of water a moment ago) have enough water to flourish and do what it needs to do. I use it as a vice to cover my social anxiety. I have to always be peaking from it too for me to receive the numbness it gives me at work (dealing with the public), which means Im taking big full table spoonfulls of it every hr our so. I take it until I feel like I'm going to puke or do puke, which at work is always a challenge. Having gag reflex in public and having to swallow your own vomit in front of your boss so he doesn't send you home for the day. I say all this like some kind of addict lol 😂 ironically but I also use to drink at work everyday and literally walk to the liquor store before my shift. Bottle of wine before work 3 nips right before I walk in, 3 nips on my break just to get through a shift. So I look at this as improvement. It helps me to get through life feeling more interested in things, as it makes me more intrigued by things around me. It also just removes the edges from my work life. I'd rather feel nauseous and dizzy than anxious and self conscious all day long. Anyhow what do you guys use kratom for and has it helped you?

Been using kratom every day for like 8 months now (at least 10gpd). When I try to quit cold turkey, I always feel mad tired, dizzy and out of my body, if that makes any sense so I always fall back right into it. Did anyone try to quit by reducing doses every week and how was it? Is there any other method to quit?