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"im the alpha im the leader im the one to trust 🔥🔥💪💪💪 whatever it takes were in this pack for LIFE AWOOOOOOOOO 🐺🐺 WERE WOLVES 👿 WE OWN THE NIGHT"

Im rewatching why wasnt criston charged or reprimanded after he killed Joffrey Lonmouth

"As he was writing the episode, Hancock, knowing the import of the sequence, worked in concert with Hess on the conversation in which the women finally express to one another their feelings of anger, suspicion, and resentment. "It’s not that either has betrayed the other," Hess says. "It’s that all this stuff has happened that the men around them have facilitated, and now they don’t know what to think about each other. There’s this displaced fury, and they end up trying to fight it out with each other. That’s often how women in high-powered positions are made to feel about each other—to be suspicious of each other and to struggle with one another over things that they should be [in agreement on]."

Can't wait for S3

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Got some alcy

Now I'm no scientist but even as a bastard Jacaerys is a Targaryen partially at least because that's just how genetics work? I think because his mother a Targaryen surely he has Targaryen genres like dragonseeds so he does a claim to the throne just not as stronger as being a child born in wedlock.

Since the show loves hammering Daemon / Aemond parallels here are a few that I think could happen next season—mainly overarching similarities with the relationships that will significantly impact their characters.

Mentors and Parental Figures:

Rhaena and Daemon:  will embark on repairing their estranged father/daughter relationship. 

Since season 1 the writers have hinted at the strained relationship between Rhaena and her father mainly with her expressing that he ignores her which I think was one of the reasons why she was so desperate to claim a dragon ; to prove herself in the eyes of her father. After Daemon's introspection at Harrenhal with Laena checking him for not taking care of his daugthers as he should , we will finally see Daemon trying to step into that parental role.

Aemond and Alys:  Alys will act as a pseudo motherly type figure for Aemond 

Aemond scenes in the brothel to me makes me think that Alys will be acting as a maternal suggroate . I think those scenes with the Madam were a baseline of the connection that Aemond is seeking after losing that connection with his mother. (This could be complex though as I'm sure that they will probably be intimate as well)

Outsiders: 

Will bond as the result of being outsiders

Rhaena and Daemon:  Rhaena might feel aliented from her family because Rhaenyra is cold towards her after the battle of the gullet / Baela could also be cold towards her because of it as well ; Daemon could be on the outskirts with his wife because of mysaria influencing.

Rhaena was already sort of an outsider all of these years being that she was the only one without dragon. Athough she will end up bonding with one her, happiness will short lived as I think the tensions between Rhaenyra after losing jace + Rhaenyra blaming Rhaena for putting her two young sons in danger will be felt thus ending with her feeling more of an outcast. Similarly tensions between Rhaenyra and Daemon could be caused by Mysaria influencing on Rhaenyra which could extend to her unintentionally pushing Daemon away as she did with Jace

Aemond and Alys: Aemond feeling isolated from his family after being rejected by them ; alys being lonely and not noticed by the strongs 

By Aemond being conditioned to priortize duty to the war above all else to the extent of sacrificing his relationships with his family ultimately making them fear him has left him as an outcast; Similarly Alys living in Harrenhal for years and years yet no one notices her or engages with her until she is needed could lead to them forming a bond.

Acts of loyalty:

Rhaena and Daemon: Daemon protecting and taking the side of his daugther after Rhaenyra accuses her for not protecting her sons like she asked.

Aemond and Alys: In Harrenhal, Criston -haunted by visions is supicious of Alys and accuses her of witchcraft .. Aemond wanting to protect alys, challenges Criston on this stance, which could be one of the reasons they eventually part ways.

Tragedy with knowing their fates:

Rhaena and Daemon: Rhaena finally having that connection with her father but unbeknownst to her it has a time limit ; Daemon tortured wishing he had more time after realizing too late how remarkable his daughter truly is.

Alys and Aemond: Alys and Aemond finding the connection they both longed for even though they both know it was doomed from the start and that one's fate cannot be changed.

Coming into Season 3 both Daemon and Aemond know their fates , Daemon will be resigned , Aemond will probably try to defy it but the underlying core is that both of these men know that the new fragile bonds that they have found will not last long adding to the tradegy of the Gods Eye.

Here are some book quotes that I think can tie into both of their relationships:

Dependency : 

Rhaena and Daemon: “And so he kept the girl nettles by his side, day and night, in sky and castle.”  (Instead of nettles it will be Rhaena ) 

Aemond and Alys: “It was Aemond alone who had become besotted with the Rivers woman, to such an extent that he could not bear the thought of leaving her. “

Domestically: 

Rhaena and Daemon : "Maester Norren writes that “the prince and his bastard girl” supped together every night, broke their fast together every morning" 

Aemond and Alys:" …..in the fire we lit to cook our suppers."

Extra : 

Both pairs will have scenes in the riverlands... bonding?

What other parallels or events could you see happening ?

When the writers changed Leanor’s death too him not dying at all they also made Daemon and Rhaenyra’s marriage illegitimate.

You could argue that they married in the Valyrian way but there is no confirmed history of women marrying multiple women, and with Visenya being the elder and Aegon I becoming king does suggest that Valyria was patriarchy. Which means Rhaenyra having two living husbands might not have been fine in Valyrian either.

Anyway, Rhaenyra and Daemon are both followers of the faith by technicality even if they do not believe. So Leanor living and without a divorce, the marriage between them is illegitimate.

That means that Aegon III and Viserys II are both bastards. So that means Aegon II was the last Targaryen king from the trueborn line to sit the iron throne. They also give the Blackfyre’s a hell of a precedent by having two bastards be kings.

I do not think this was the writers intention, but it’s a fun fact.

I would argue her character was destroyed the moment she started praising Rhaenyra in the dinner scene in S1EP8

She starts saying how Rhaenyra would make a fine queen as if she wasnt plotting and making plans and telling Aegon that he would be King for years! And that Rhaenyra would kill them all if she ever became Queen

Then when Vizzy T dies, he yaps abt the prophecy and dumb dumb Alicent thinks he was talking abt Aegon and that was the reason why the Greens put Egg on the throne? Because an old, dying man suddenly changed his mind on his deathbed? As if he hadnt been excusing Rhaenyra and defending her for years!?

Alicent seriously believed that Viserys was actually talking abt Aegon II? The son he had neglected his whole life?

And the scene between Rhaenyra and Alicent after Aemond and Jace and Luke and Baela and Rhaena had left. Alicent sounds like a bumbling fool there, licking Rhaenyra's feet and sucking up to her

It would have been fine if Alicent was just pretending to call Rhaenyra a good queen because Vizzy was there. But she actually MEANT it?

Shireen's uncle, Robert Baratheon, was king; hence, her father was 'Prince' Stannis, and herself, 'Princess' Shireen. However, despite Prince Daemon's brother being king, his daughters with Lady Laena are styled Lady Baela and Lady Rhaena. It's quite obvious why his sons with Princess Rhaenyra are styled Prince Aegon and Prince Viserys (before the Dance), since Rhaenyra does become queen and was heir apparent up until her coronation anyway.

So, my question is, why is Shireen a princess when Baela and Rhaena are just ladies? I saw some answers online claiming that in AGOT, the order of succession would be:

Robert > Joffrey> Tommen > Myrcella > Stannis > Shireen > Renly

Whereas, just before the Dance, the order would be: Viserys I > Rhaenyra > Jacaerys > Lucerys > Joffrey > Aegon III > Viserys II > Aegon II > Jaehaerys > Jaehaera > Aemond > Daeron > Helaena > Daemon > Baela > Rhaena > Rhaenys....... (Baela was older than Rhaena by a few minutes).

This somewhat makes sense as Baela and Rhaena are very far down the line of succession compared to Shireen, but I don't think that's the actual reason. Anyway, I just wanted to see what you guys thought.

I think Mysaria is the character whose death style is most likely to change in the series because she was forced to walk naked like Cersei and they were whipping her while she was walking, that's why Mysaria was dead, so since her death was very heavy in terms of sexual and brutality, I think the writers will change her death.

In the book, Alicent made peace proposals to Rhaenyra twice. In the first one, she wanted an election between Aegon and Rhaenyra, and in the second one, she offered Rhaenyra to divide the realm into two and let Rhaenyra rule one part and Aegon the other.In the series, Alicent went to Rhaenyra and sold her her sons and other family members and said that she just wanted a simple life in the forest. Do you think the writers could not have made Alicent offer at least one of these two offers?Now, in the future seasons, there will not be a scene between Alicent and Rhaenyra where Alicent offers these two things and tries to bargain, instead there will be scenes where she just cries and humiliates herself, and I think this is a very annoying thing.

They fought and bled together. And besides that, you can't just ignore the murder of a family member. That's an insult to your entire name.

Tywin utterly hated Tyrion and still went to war the moment he was captured, Stannis and Renly went to war with each other but Stannis still was sad over his brother's death, even confessing so to Melisandre with wet eyes. Dany was abused by Viserys for years and sold off to be raped by a barbarian, but in Adwd, she feels remorseful over losing him.

Looking at all that, Corlys just seems whack. His family name is spat on and his brother in both blood and arms is murdered even if he feels it was justified because Vaemond tried to steal Luke's throne, one simply doesn't ignore this and should certainly feel some remorse. He's lame and a pushover.

In more detail. In my previous post, I hadn't opened it but I have opened it and have used it.

On the left is the box and on the right is the actual dvd. While I can't show you the discs, there are five in total and I'm only on Disc Two. Disc One and Two are very mature (depends on the country you live in, for me it's 18 and in your country it could be RRated). Discs Three, Four and Five have lower age ratings and I don't know why. I'm sorry if I didn't add this in my previous post about me getting it or something, I was busy.

Disc One has all the (best and better) special features and two episodes. Disc Two has two episodes and some special stuff and this is all for the three other discs. Each disc has two episodes and behind the scenes stuff. The bonus content is split between all five discs.

And, if you didn't know, Syrax is the dragon behind young Rhaenyra.

What would happen if Viserys had gone to Dragonstone to see his brother Daemon?

I got the Season 1 DVD and Episode 1 was EPIC. Daemon and the City Watch killing criminals, drama over new heir and Daemon, Viserys' illness and cutting himself, the Heir's Tournament, Aemma's death and Baelon's death, Daemon and Mysaria, Alicent taking with depressed lonely King and Rhaenyra looking at the camera after being named heir and sighing l.

Quick Question: Are Sunfyre & Moon Dancer the same size on the show? I don't remember Sunfyre's size in the book, but I recall Moon Dancer being no larger than a horse.