I saw this post on a discord chat.

Literally Baou demon dad called "murder" when I described your method of killing demons. As did other occultists on discord and reddit. Baou and others believes demons are sentinel beings with real minds and thus you should treat them with common courtesy.

And in addition they insisted on humans being equal when I stated (not from your statement but from the bible and Bass's post) humans are god's greatest creation.......

You know how all that went. But since you mentioned how fucked up people in the subculture when they will treat demons better than a fellow stranger human......

Bass always state you wouldn't let a random human into your home or give him your personal info. You'd be skeptical with what a stranger tells you. So why shouldn't you do the same with demons and spirits? He got publicly chewed out........

But even if I was an atheist, he's right. Why would you trust a random sent creature who just pops up one day? Why would you trust a troll that came out when you played with a summoning ritual? These guys are talking about meeting some random horned ugly and ferocious looking monster on a summoning (even knowing the texts calls them dangerous and violent)!!!!!

At least in my case the book said the entity will help find women and it appeared in a human form that had a dead drop gorgeous face comparable to Audrey Hepburn and was in fancy clothing and spoke with an aristocratic tongue and moved with a sophisticated air. I'm not denying I was a fucking moron but at least it looked like a normal human.

These idiots will insist on befriending a motherfucking talking wolf or an alligator in heavy plate armor with a large ass sword? Forget how dangerous the texts describe them, their appearance alone is scary as fuck and obviously bloodthirsty!

But they will treat them better than their real life acquaintances or even friends (I wish I was making this up)!!!! Forget that they were even insisting on treated them better than your relatives (I really wish I was fucking making that up!!!)!!!! Even Baou Demon Dad didn't go that far an insisted on boundaries as well as sigils and other wards and defenses even after you got to know a demon well and developed a "deep friendship".....

But that was so common on reddit and discord.

I do have to say though the willingness to curse others on the internet while treating demons like they are the President was one of the most insane things i ever soon....... But treating a demon like your blood brother irl?..................

I'll just stop here. But your comments about never feeding the bears makes me wonder how the fuck anyone can immediately befriend a giant bird wielding a sword or a talking bear (one person literally summoned this kind of demon lol) but rebel against their parents irl and neglect their siblings!

Why the fuck would you talk to a talking bear who suddenly comes out of a circle like he's your friend if its yoru first time summoning?!!!!

In addition the same user also posted this in the chatroom.

If you were a normal human who never knew shit of the occult, I am curious if you'd be scared if an upright standing talking giant horse like Orobas is traditionall drawn as?

Am I nuts in believing normal people would run out of their home screming as fast as they can run if they suddenly saw a talking wolf with wings appear in the middle of a circle because they attempted summoning Marchosias?

Like I said at least the false goddess Aeval appeard like a real beauty pageant queen and unmistakably human. These guys are not scared of the fact that a talking 10 feet tall talking Bear just appeared in front of them with a deep glutteral voice after repeating some poetry?

A few other discorders gave their responses.

It is all crazy, isn't it? Especially considering a strange human at least thinks like you, and has the same body. Demons... well... most people don't understand just how "different" they are.

Ant spiders, man. Ant spiders.

Another person wrote a longer reply.

Uh, yeah. I still get scared of things I've seen a lot. There used to be a joke between old group and I, and between myself and my mentor, that you just have to give up the scare sometimes... There was a thing a entity... Press its face to the window and look in on whoever was in the room. We all knew it did it, we knew the noise of the face hitting the screen... we habitually drew the blinds at dusk to avoid it, but once in a while we'd forget, hear that noise, and reflexively turn to look... And the sonnuvabitch was so creepy it would be the routine of jumping out of the skin, shouting a stream of nonsense/making up brand new profanity, nope-ing right the hell out of the room to regain composure.

How people who have little experience can be comfortable with the things they describe, especially when there is no previous contact (let alone familiarity)... Honestly, I imagine some people are just like that, because some people are just strange and/or it fits within whatever belief system they've decided to adopt, and the majority of the rest are probably full of shit. In real life, creepy stuff that you can tolerate on a movie screen is very different, and if you've ever been baited into one of the "pop-up scare" things somewhere online, having that happen for real in front of your face... Most of the time the reaction is reflexive, regardless of experience.

If you legitimately have a giant, bipedal, talking horse demon waltz into your living room and your reaction is "Hey, sup?" you really need to take a break and back off the occult shit for a while... Your reality has become totally skewed.

Different people made the following posts.

One stated.

The first thing I'd do summoning and meeting a talking bear is to gset up an appointment to a psychiatry clinic the next day I can understand if its a regular human that popped up Esp if its a beauty pageant queen like in my case But a talking bear? :laughing: Nevermind an alligator wearing heavy plate armor with a large ass sword with a scry deep voice

Another stated.

LOL Normal people would run away the moment they see a talking biird holding a curved sword ona wolf like Andras They were literally bragging how badass Andras was rather than being fucking scared like hell and running away from their house ASAP in their first summoning At least in my case my first summoning had fairy that looked like a REGULAR HUMAN BEING With a dead drop gorgeous face and in fancy aristocratic clothing Far cry from summoning a talking bear And thinking its your friend

One poster replied.

Isn't this psychology among occultists fucking insane? BTW Duelist Larg is my Discord handle ;). But still trusting a talking three headed demons like Asmodeus as friendly as you would meeting a classmate? Fucking insane!

The last thing I saw on the discord chat before leaving was this.

So I'd have to ask................. All the people above (more than 5 different users chatting real time in the discord room) state how common it is for people in occultic arts to treat meeting an apparition like a snarling Medusa spirit like its nothing special....... Like they're just meeting their best friend in the park in a planned chilling walk to the mall where they will shop for stuff for the entire Friday afternoon...............

I personally witnessed it too many times how people post on reddit and discord how excited they will be to meet a genie again for the 12th time this month or how they treat a 7 feet tall goatman with a mace in his hands like its their best friends............

In some case its the first time summoning anything but they already are saying "hi buddy!" after the evocation was successful and sphinx pops out of thin air...........

The discord users have a point. Normal people would be running away in terror out of their apartments for their life if they were playing around summoning a lamassu and one suddenly pop up. As one of the above posters wrote, you wouldn't trust a stranger you just met suddenly knocking on your door the next day and asking you out (esp if you never gave them your address, or not even your phone number)........... So why would you trust to allow a random ghost or spirit esp one that looks like a beast (esp if it holds a weapon) into your home at its own whim? Why would you be excited to keep on summoning to meet Horus everyday like you are meeting your girlfriend next day since not only Horus have the head of a bird but he's the freaking king of Egypt! Even if you don't fear spirits, the fact he's the monarch of a kingdom should mean you should be hesitant to keep contacting him daily! You wouldn't call President Trump everyday on the phone to talk to him over petty matters would you? So you're gonna treat a god who's the king of an ancient civilization (not mention head of a whole pantheon or at least its ceremonial representative) like he's a classmate at school and call him everyday?

I mean on Discord I chatted with veteran Satanists and Wiccans and they say its summoning anything is very dangerous and you should always be prepped and treat it not like a game but like a life or death thing. So its telling even people who worship Satan recognize its not a weekend hobby for ****s and giggles.

Yet all across reddit and esp discord people say they keep summoning an animal ancestor who's a talking bear without any fear of the dangers and talking to Pazuzu like he's an everyday Joe (ignoring Pazuzu was one of the MOST POWERFUL demons in Mesopotamia,one known to kill people without remorse and is a freaking monster with wings and a snake penis!!!)!

I get if say you summon Aphrodite and keep communicating with her everyday like she's your auntie on the phone line or you keep summoning the mother goddess Danu for advice. They practically all are humans enhanced with magical powers. As one of the posters stated, the disguised demon or whatever evil spirit it was at least looked like beauty pageant queen.

You're gonna treat a talking creature with the head of a lion and five human legs like he's your psychiatrist despite the fact its not only your first time summoning Buer but its the first time you attempted evocation ever period in your life? And you're gonna treat it like a normal even like meeting a marine recruiter at your school? Whats the logic in that?

Saw this conversation on Discord.

While we are at it, a question I've had with TechEmporium. An exact message I sent on a few discord rooms.

A frequent point me a TechEmporiun frequently discuss is......... If Magick is real why don't we see fireballs being shot out of people's hands? Or people chanting a name and an earthquake happens?

This is proof of mass hysteria according to scientiffic magician and he says all occultists and even Christians from Linah at NightHouse to Geno at Occult and Chill to RCR917 and Bassackwards all are buying into.

There is no "harry potter" magick where you wave a wand around and suddenly you create a ray of light that can burn someone according to atheist magician.

Even when people describe incidents where magical stuff appear, nothing is anywhere close to say Super Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z destroying buildings because they shoot out energy blasts or Kenpachi cutting a skyscraper in half with a single sword swing or FOrce Lightning style attacks where electricity literally comes out of your finger tips like Emperor Palpatine.

Its more boring mundane magick by fictional standards like flying hammers and such. Even by something as more low level and earthly as Charmed, the magic supposed veterans like Xaithu, RCR917, Geno, and Monster at the NIghthouse Discord room encounter is low level like a ceiling collapsing. Not freezing time like Piper could and Force telekenesis liek Prue could or seeing distant future visions like Phoebe could. Nothing that Charmed Halliwell's sister at all.

I have to ask why even the real magickal stuff is nothing like Harry Potter and Dungeons and Dragons?

Its for this reason why TechEmporium says all magick is BS and its all just altering your brain's chemical function. He says if D and D magick was real like Zeus throwing lightning, how supposed apparitions like Zeus doesn't shock his opponent with force lightning? Or supposed appearance of Santa Muerte causes instant death to people who anger her in summoning by a black aura spreading in a room like a horror movie? I'm just so curious how claims like reading minds Jean Grey style or faster than light speed common in anime/manga fights come from? Why mythology is full of them and even the Abrhaamic religionst oo? Yet from people interactions with the gods and demons and whatever the real story is far more boring?

Can humans actually learn how to control a river to do whipping attacks using water like in some fantasy Wuxia martial arts films and make the earth shake by stomping their foot on the ground and cracking the floor in front of you split wide open like Toph from Avatar: The Last Airbender can do? And other D and D style magick?If so how come no occultists have done so in modern times?

I am quite curious why real life magick is so boring and seems to work more by coincidences and laws of science? None of that shooting ray of destructive light out of your finger tip like in YuYu Hakusho and other stuff the Discorder stated in the quote above? Why is it just boring candles that simply tips the balance in say business dealings or subconsciously changes your habit through placebo effect and accessing psychological archetypes?

Even the cases we have of demonic attachment and stuff and defying the science, the magick is so low level like causing a keychain to levitate. We don't have stuff that is close to fictional powerful like Prue waving her arms and destroying an entire room in Charmed or Gandalf using his staff to bring out a sphere of light that blinds an entire battalion of American marines for over 10 minutes! The stuff we have is mostly boring low stuff like bleeding out of nowhere when meeting an angel or someone being lifted midair by an angry spirit. Or feeling the energy of a person (but not necessarily reading his thoughts like Jean Grey in X-Men could).

Why is this?

Hey Everyone. Super duper new guy here just recently having serious interest and doing as much reading as I can. I was looking into Quareia to do their learning programs but came across a situation that I'm concerned with. Also, I'm a newly returned Christian and don't really have any history of real belief so all I know was things taught to me as a Souther Baptist (no longer even remotely affiliated with them). So I read in Quareia about making offerings to the river goddess and I have doubts and am uneasy about offering anything to anyone but God. Now this may be ignorance on my part, I have not read through the prior modules completely so the answer may be there... So I am curious how others have dealt with this and if you simply offer prayers to God in situations where they instruct you in the direction of other deities?

Please check my post history. I have been given 6 names via pendulum and automatic writinf, and I would not post it here because if they are demons, then they just want attention. And I will not give them that benefit.

They said they are my angels. But then involuntary movements happened starting from my meditation. I basically became a human pendulum, and they answer via my involuntary movements.

When I asked if they are demons they said yes. Angels would never do that, right?

You can pm me to know the 6 names. I'm serious. Thank you.

💙💚 Love and Light💚💙

Just wanna say Hello to all the beautiful angels out there making the world a better place <3 here is a sigil from venus to have a beautiful loving day, May everything flow your way today, Namaste and Em Hotep

So are y'all christian magicians or something like that, i didn't think that was possible.

Can anyone explained whagt happened to me last night. My mom bought a magic book on the Celtic. At her request I tested a spell today at work school center.

I actually managed to summon what appeared to be a very beautiful lady-pale skin and tall with brown hair and blue eyes and I told her a petition. She promised to grant it.

When I was going home I felt sudden numbness in my lefr leg on the 20 minute drive.

Just a about 2 hours upon coming home my penis starting going so numb I could barely walk. 30 minutes later I felt arhtritis like sensation in my left arms as well as throbing and niumbness. I had dififculty difficulty writing basic sentences on discord . The book says her name is Aeval and she is a fairy as well as a sex goddess who traditionally vectored men into having sex to please women. The book says she will help with any lust spell and sex request as well as offer wisdom and guidance through life. She is a fairy goddess from Ireland.

Fuck as I type this my body is getting itchy all around especially at my foot area! Here is where it starts getting weird. The penis numbness alone was bizare but. So I joined another discord group last night So I joined a discord server group and in the split second I posted a basic outline before anyone could read it one of the admin writes publicly in chat saying that the gorgeous lady I met is not Aeval but a sex fiend using Aeval's identity to fool me

He and the other admin started giving me a crash course on how to enter astral. I failed even precise instructions until suddenly I closed my eyes and saw the same gorgeous lady but this time snarling. I don't know what the fuck got into me-maybe Bass's stories and your own description of yourself loving fighting like a real life Kenpachi-but I suddenly just tried to punch the entity as she was growling at me and I suddenly went back into my body.

The entity was caught off guard enough to stop bothering me at that point. The symptoms disappeared esp the penis numbness and the admin told me that is a good sign because she stopped bothering me in the mean time.

I PMed him for further explanations and he said he saw via astral plain that the supposed Aeval was not the real goddess because he already worked with Aeval and has a deep relationship. Admin spotted from the start the entity next to me was a lying fraud so he already responded before anyone could read my summary of the events in the chat room.

In addition while instructions were being given about astral plain projection, he told me he was seeing a cloudy version of the whole even in an astral POV and was seeing the female entity draining energy. He told me he saw me in a cloudy shape literally tried to punch the Aeval wannabe and she panicked and countered with some spiritual attack that sent me back in my body while growling.

After she left me temporarily the admin claims he talked with her and warned her to leave me alone so now she is no longer attached to me. So I have to ask did I contact a succubus unintentionally by trying to invoke a goddess? In addition is it true you feel stuff like pain, exhaustion, and other stuff when a malicious entity attaches itself to you? Did I really just do astral projection? Why was my penis so numb specifically?

Hello,
I have a problem with some demon, I don't know which kind it is, but it tries to break into my house and tries to get something back. Is there a way, a seal or something to make my house safe, espicially doors, windows and walls?

P.S: I hope it is just some demon... I see it as a shadowy figure which changes shape. I am currently safe because of stone salt and some fumbler work in blood runes. But I'm searching for sth permanent.

Auto immune diseases is often times regarded as lifestyle diseases. Being the result of years of unbalanced energies, stress, poor dietary habits and so on. But they also inflict small children. This has lead me in to thinking that perhaps they can be caused by ones fear and negative emotions. And perhaps emotional wounds where non-human entities can take resident.

Have you or anyone you know of had success healing such diseases with the help of archangels or other light beings?

Is there a ritual to evoke archangel Raphael to ask him a medical/healing help?

Can I find someone Powerful spiritually here on Reddit. By been powerful I mean someone that good connection with the spiritworld and has the mighty Capacity to Evolve Spirit being. I really need a powerful healing

Thanks

According to places like TVTropes, he is the patron of the virtue of Chastity and is the tamer of the demon Asmodeus who embodies lust. Can anyone clarify?

Hello guys, I've been working with angels and they taught me a system of magic that they asked me to share with the world. I worked with enochian angels, kabbalistic angels, archangels, they all helped me in the process. They taught me all sort of magical techniques made to heal this world and aid in spiritual development, i will post them one by one on my blog along with what training system they used to train me and my techniques for evoking them. Greedy and ignorant humans have polluted this planet for hundreds of years, they taught me ways to heal it at least on an energetical level using nothing but energy and intention. I will share those techniques as i make time for it but now i will share a technique to get into deeper contact with the higher self.

The technique that i deem most important is a technique used to unite with your higher self, i call it the Tower of Light. The star-gate is an transpersonal (outside your body) chakra that is at the upper limit of your aura, this chakra is a portal to the higher self, the hara line is what connects you to him and the crown chakra is the chakra that receives the energy. You basically expand the hara line into a tower around you, your higher self will be able to send you a lot more energy. He will personally program the energy, so make sure to let him know for what you use it. With this technique he can open your chakras, help you awaken your psychic abilities and make you able to communicate with him better as you master this technique. Simply ask for an energy for a given purpose (Ex: open your third eye) and absorb it there.

Hope this helps, here's the link, here i explain more in depth who is the "higher self" and the technique itself.

https://caelorummistici.blogspot.com/2019/07/about-higher-self-and-exercise-to-unite.html

Pace for you, fellow lightworkers ^_^

Hello how would any of you go about exorcising a demon binded from someone?

As someone who grew up in a Catholic household, lust has always been condemned as a deadly vice. Not just having sex outside marriage but viewing hardcore porn (and even viewing non-porn stuff that inspire horny erections such as bra catalogs or well-endowed actresses in a PG movie such as Sophia Loren), and most of all masturbation is viewed as mortal sins condemning you to hell and they even believe you might leave an opening to demonic possession.

I am asking what is the reality? I myself have problems with lust and before I start combating local spirits, I want to know if I have to rid myself of these addictions.

In addition is it true rape summons demonic energy? And as does incest and other abnormal sexual acts? Exorcists like Bob Larson say a location can be infested with demon if rape has occurred and same with entire family bloodlines. And the mental scarring by rape is demons trying to influence you.

Need big help with this! Should I stop jerking off to Sophia Loren and other hotties?

We tend to associate personality changes that are red flags for demonic possession as a sudden introversion, adopting Goth culture, frequent outbursts of anger, slothful personality,vetc negative traits.

But is it possible for someone just suddenly to attain positive traits, if not heavenly virtues, from developing a Puritan work ethic the next day to exercising everyday starting today or just donate to charity out of impulse........ Can these positive personality development be a sign of demonic influence, if not a process of gradual take over?

I notice Sidere Argentum and other people in this sub tend to avoid crucifix and other art objects. Why? I mean the Cross and Holy Water, etc have for centuries been effective at exorcising demons and its universally believed that Satan (Sammael and Belial) and all demons fear just the presence of a cross in the room as well as Benedict medals and other cross like objects. Catholics in particular believe demons not only fear artwork of the archangels and Mary but even fear artworks of the Saints.

Can Sidere and others explain why the archs believe in not using religious art?

Because even though a demon can destroy a crucifix, all major trinitarian denomination demons inherently fear the cross shape and no demon can infest a Church without a human host esp high ones like Eastern Orthodox and Vaticans because of the sacred presence of the church architecture and its art!

I can't find the webpage and exact quotes but self-defense instructor Marc MacYoung wrote several stuff about religion and its guide on life in his RBSD website https://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/

In particular he wrote a passage in Leviticus ordering to bury human crap miles away from camp and he asks the reader to analyze the questions "why don't Hindu eat beef" and other stuff. In the article he ultimately concludes rules such as Jews being forbidden from eating pork were not just random nonsense but stuff intentionally written based on how the ancient people observed the pattern of diseases and health. That cows were forbidden from being eaten because primitive people in India realized the populace could be fed better with dairy products instead of beef and the Hebrews may not have understand germs exist but they knew someone could get sick from eating cooked pig. These laws basically were put with "God commands" to make superstitious people follow survival and health practises without having to understand the reasons behind it since science was so primitive during the time.

I really wish I can find it because it was so enlightening. But I will quote this quote I found from Marc MacYoung's blog.

Here's the hitch. Uber-tribes are just too big. Going back to something I mentioned in passing we can sort of, kinda wrap our heads around Super-tribes. These are imaginary super groups that we both self-identify with and label others as. In the self-identity category, this reduces the ‘uber’ to a smaller, more intellectually manageable super-size. So now instead of 324,000,000 million your Super-tribe is a tens or hundreds of millions. The four main categories we use to separate ourselves from the Uber-tribe are politics, race, religion and socio-economic.

We're more comfortable with drawing these lines between Super-tribes. But guess what? When we do that we fall into the "Us v.s. Them" mindset of tribalism. A mindset that historically had checks, balances, limits, consequences and most of all rules of behavior -- especially when it came to getting along. Rules that if you broke, people you loved died.

This isn’t just internal rules that you followed. (Kosher and Halah food rules will keep your family from dying of food poisoning in the desert.) It’s very much keeping people you love from getting killed because of something you did to a member of another tribe. That's tribal warfare out at the sharp end. And despite the bad rap it gets, way more time and effort is spent on trying to keep from having to try to slaughter each other than killing. This is people you know and love dying.

Not directly related to religion but his comments about halal and kosher proves the point old religious customs. But I posted that specifically because...........

I used to asks Marc MacYoung questions on AllExpert.com before it shut down and he would always talk about how humans historically have been tribalistic and as much as we look down on Roman armies wiping out entire populaces or the Arabs committing slave trades in the 7th century, humans have had this subconscious belief that its wrong to hurt anyone in your tribe but its ok to prey on outsiders. And that the basic pattern was the various weaker tribes would be eaten alive by the more powerful tribes (such as Mongols raping the women of a small Chinese village or Aztecs doing human sacrifices of prisoners of war) and the powerful tribes would balance each other out by being too strong that they are scared of making a big step for centuries (such as USA vs Soviet Union or the Byzantines vs Roman Catholic Europe) until something happens that requires war such as a drought or sudden scarcity of food (which is why peaceful but powerful American Indian tribes would out of the blue go to war).

In particular MacYoung stated that plenty of disgusting past customs such as the Norse loving warfare and brutally killing was based on survival in a few chats we had. For the Norse he explained Scandinavia's harsh winters, quite small terrain, and lack of resources esp farmlands meant a culture of bloodshed had to develop where strong men would hack apart other strong men. Norse religion's war gods is a reflection of the Norse need for survival through violence.

He pointed out Roman Catholicism's harsh endorsement of the feudal system was absolutely vital in the stability of medieval Europe and without Roman Catholic Church standing in its way, not just Islam but pagan religions of various invaders would have swept into Europe and wipe away Christianity, and spring the continent back into violent ages. The Roman Catholic Church provided the central authority that disappeared after Rome had fallen and without it Western civilization as we know it would cease. Europe would never have become the colonizing continent without the influence of the Catholic Church.

The conversation we had was so long I am having difficulty remembering other examples but those two above should suffice to this discussion.

I know Bassackwards and other posters already believe the savage rules such as Roman gladiatorial games and the Chinese confucianist hierarchy are the result of demons ruling mankind.

But I am curious if what MacYoung (who has a B.S. degree in history) and other academics ring any truth? That even without demons stuff like Incan theft of nearby civilizations' wealth would still exist because of survival mechanism required in olden times and tribalism past civilizations had)?

So basically I am asking to discuss academic explanations and compare the to the demons that caused things like Viking funerals having a rape victim and other vile customs.

Are the academicians such as professors in universities wrong? Are they being controlled by demons? Esp when they say these rules were required survival by brutal civilizations like the Spartans?

I will end it here because I can go on and on for hours. But be sure to read this article also by Marc MacYoung to further understand the topic I am asking to discuss.

https://conflictresearchgroupintl.com/on-humanism-the-civil-war-and-politically-correct-soundbites-marc-macyoung/

Be sure to read the link above before posting to get into context what I am asking!

In addition, this is not by Marc MacYoung but a comment by another person on his blog.

Something I feel that is worth adding and considering, though, is the fluid nature of tribal allegiance in the modern world. Because our society is no longer based on tribal hordes living in close proximity, our ability to fulfill our need for social interaction has changed. Let me explain what I mean.

Back in the days of yore, people had to form tribal links with others to survive, as you say. Their access to potential tribe members was quite low, however. In a particular area, only a small number of people would come together to form a tribe, as population was too sparse and travel too difficult for it to be otherwise. An important implication of this is that tribe acceptance of an individual was more open to some disliked traits. If one of the guys in your village was an idiot, you broadened the rules of your tribe to accept him first, then kicked him out for not adhering if that didn't work. The reason for this would be that you needed that guy's resources to prosper, so dealing with some difficulty was a necessary trade-off.

Today, however, especially in the information age, this is no longer necessary. We can find individuals who are a lot closer to our personal identity with whom to form a social identity. As a result, we no longer need to be so tolerant of deviation in order to feel like we have good tribal connections. We can also find people who fit our personal requirements for various aspects of our personality and attitudes, depending on what is currently at the forefront of our minds (e.g. a political party for social policy opinions, a hobby club for liked pastimes, etc.). Depending on what social identity is currently activated, we can switch between various "tribal" groups while retaining a narrow window of acceptance of deviation.

Now the final component I'd like to mention here is where Dunbar's number comes into play. It may well be true that we can only maintain relatively few stable relationships, likely with people who cover a broad swathe of social identity aspects that we consider important personally. However, this does not mean that we don't still identify with larger tribes, as Marc already mentioned. But why would we care so much about supertribes if Dunbar's number limits our actual relationships? I would offer two reasons. Firstly, the need to belong can drive a lot of our behavior. Even a momentary activation of that need can lead us to latch onto whatever social group we're currently thinking about more strongly. Secondly, we derive a lot of personal self-worth from the positive status of the social identities we identify with. As social status shifts and our own understanding of desirable traits evolves, we identify with different groups - but that identification can carry with it all the hallmarks of tribalism.

So where does this leave us? Not just with a cf of tribes, supertribes and ubertribes which we have a difficult time identifying with, but also with a quick-shifting set of allegiances that can push us into tribal behavior to protect our own narrowly defined social identities. And so we end up with something that might look like what LCPL Eaton describes in Afghanistan, but ends up being a possibly more pernicious beast in a country like the US, where people define themselves less by family and more by homogenous groups with politically relevant attitudes.

I will note that although much of this is supported by psychological research (shifting of social identities, need to belong - see Tajfel & Turner or Baumeister & Leary), some of it is just my own conclusions and thoughts (especially the stuff about how modern society leads to narrower and more homogenous groups), unsupported by empirical data - although it's an interesting hypothesis and one one could probably easily test.

This is important because it is for this reason according to anthropologists, historians, and other academicians why old paganism and even sects of the Abrahamic faiths developed racism and other nasty stuff. As the post points out, caste systems, religious discrimination, and other tribal divisions were NECESSARY for order and stability as unfair as it seems.

And it also explains why the Abrahamic faiths had a hard time converting to pagans from a non-religious POV. Its very hard to convert to Jesus churches when your entire family would outcast your for refusing worship of Mars or even kill you for not doing rites for Morrigan. At least from an academic pov the notion of demons preventing conversion does not match day to day life for the pagans who refuse conversion.

Before anyone even tries to attack me for using Leviathan in past posts, I seen this claim in several occult websites as well as a few snippets on books by Christian writers or Angelologists in Google Books. So I am curious if Michael is patron of Charity? I have seen enough anecdotes about Michael defending anyone who calls for him to a degree (which depends on what God will allow him) be they pagans, Witches, Satanists, Muslim, Jews, and atheists esp if they use trad Catholic method of calling for his aid such as the "Defend Us in Battle Prayer". Enough that I even seen some demon worshippers and Witches state several incidents online of how Michael directly stopped black magicians from hurting people and bended away (to quote The Last Airbender) the powers of dark sorcerers from being able to do black spells to harm people permanently. Enough that some of them no longer even have harmless 6th sense powers such as intuition to predict accidents, etc. And even left hand path followers invoke his protection from time to time including Satanists before doing a risky ritual.

So would it make sense to assign Michael charity considering he extends his hands as much as he is allowed to everybody? One Angelologist even stated ironically that Michael (who as we know is leader of heaven's army and the disher of justice for God and patron of militarism and police) misses Satan and his other brothers who are now in hell as demons as a result of rebelling against God and wishes one day for God to forgive them (and even mentions incidents where Michael had helped demons such as protecting terrified lower ranks form the wrath of Archdemons and higher rankers from Belphegor to Satan) and he even states Michael misses Lucifer the most.

No other Archangel not even Raphael expresses this sympathy for their enemy that Michael does according to this Angelologist.

If that is not charity I don't know what is. Even if we discount outside sources like the Talmud, if we use strictly the Bible (which to simplify things I'm excluding the Catholic Aporcyphia to listen to the Protestant theology), would Michael be the most charitable angel?

And YES I already know the Catholic Church has no official statement on this but I'd like to know how Michael fits into this esp based on a KJV Biblical analysis.

According to this list, he is.

https://thisisleviathan.fandom.com/wiki/Seven_Heavenly_Virtues

Is it true? Can anyone provide any sources both Biblical and outside the Bible (such as the Kabbalah, Goetia, Talmud, etc)?

Here is the list.

https://thisisleviathan.fandom.com/wiki/Seven_Heavenly_Virtues

What archangel would be best for seeking aid in exercising, etc?

I already know Raphael traditionally is the archangel of healing and health issues but that is a different topic from athletics. Would Michael be the ideal one to petition to?

Had someone else cast it for me and in addition I've been getting Mother Mary to help me out with this.

How would it work? I already have been doing my part such as going at bars. I noticed women have been eyeing on me lately like theya re attracted to me and they have been friendlier to me. But not enough that I can easily do one night stands even with a woman who looks at me with lust.

I will admit I already have been on a text relationship witha few but I haven't gone to bed with any.

In the past women have never eyed on me nor have any been interested enough to give their phone number or text ID so I can see some effects.

However how long would I have to wait to finally bring a woman to bed and what else would I have to do other than the typical dating procedures?

The spells I specifically done and requesed in a way to have nonstop sex with multiple. So even though I finally have access to a girl in a relationship, I'm not asking for that. I'm asking for sex!

Since the Goetias and other writings always talk about how a powerful demon is a brilliant general or a specific low ranking demon is a great warrior, etc? I mean the goetias tend to be vague about a demon being a master swordsman or such.

Would a bottom tier ranking demon know stuff like how to reload a Napoleonic rifle or how to conduct bayonet charges or the importance of logistics? Would the generals and higher upper of Hell know how to run entire countries in addition to war stuff?

Do demons know how to create nuclear bombs?

I keep hearing how Beelzebub is one of the greatest warriors of hell and how Belphegor is a military genius in youtube, and stuff like that. So I'm curious if demons actually know how to hold a shieldwall while stabbing with swords or how to walk silently like a Ninja? Because pop media always portray demons as either being moronic brute force "attack attack attack" orcs who rely on superhuman strength and speed to win against the US army or using magic powers to defeat German soldiers in a bunker.

Since demons are described as being geniuses withs o much knowledge and a good number of them hardened warriors, even brilliant generals, would it be too far fetched to believe Beelzebub is a far better swordsman and archer than King Arthur and Robin Hood would have been? or that Belphegor knows too many strategem that with a human army he can whoop Alexander, Napoleon, Patton, and other military legends in a military campaign?

Can anyone give their experience? I just purchased the services of a local witch so I am curious how it would manifest?

Lately I've been using a St. Benedict Medal I got as a priest to use on a pendulum board app on my phone.

I am curious would this be effective? What differences would there be? I am using a St. Benedict Medal because I know its one of the most sacred objects and one of the most powerful in repelling demons and bad luck.

However the Catholic Church forbids all divination so I am wondering if this would backfire?

Am i better off just sticking with crystals? Going by Reiki magic such as Rose Quartz attracting romance , what equivalent would Benedict medals bring?

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