Episode Discussions

I haven't rewatched this show in awhile but I remember end of S1/beginning of S2 everybody getting cashed out at Cardiff and the staff all mad at the main cast. Why is Cardiff closing if the gang (and presumably the Giant) made all that money?

I understand sort of instinctually what happened having worked in the software business for 20+ years and witnessing an employee 'purge' 4 times at 3 different companies but maybe I need a timeline especially of what happens in the gap between seasons. :) bonus points if somebody explains why Toby Huss is invovled!

Yes I know about the script and the tweet, and that there's nothing specific but on a re-watch something caught me.

She looks at the guy punching in the juke box, the cashier ringing up the ticket, and the waitress taking an order with a pen. I know this is me, but this feels like she sees touchscreen in the future. Perhaps a tablet or iPad?

Given the final scene between Donna and Cam I always believed they do work together again, eventually having that 'Phoenix' experience where they remain friends. However, in that final scene Cam has one foot out the door and is literally about to drive away.

Joe and Cam always meet up at different times in their lives and there is some overlap in their character growth. They both grew up losing one biological parent and holding resentment towards the other. Joe seems to have been able to move on from this over the years while Cam has not.

We leave Cam when she's primed for more personal growth and discovery and a lot of that relates to unfinished business with her family and childhood. Do you think she stays in Cali right then, or do you think she does take that road trip and returns to Donna after visiting her mom?

I kinda missed this the first time around but is the inference that Bosworth got those cops to pull Joe over and beat him down in Season 1?

I thought it was just local cops being homophobic but maybe I missed this plot point?

I just finished watching the show for the 2nd time. I remember during the first watch thinking that “Donna’s idea” was to put music online. After the 2nd watch, I thought the idea was a point of sale system. Is it meant to be ambiguous?

Did anyone else notice that the car Gordon had at the quarry where he jumped off the cliff in S4 was a Mercury Comet? The company was named to match up with Hailey's name, so was this just an Easter egg?

Posted this on my youtube channel (not a promption I promise).
Took the opportunity to use the quote to revive a stagnant channel, never more fitting.
Always ways to reference MacMillan in real-life.

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1st time watching and I was happy that Levi could find some romance as a gay man in texas at that time, and then he gets gay bashed. I should have known it was too good to be true.

Now back to finishing the episode.

Binged it in a week, and I must say it's one of the best shows I've seen, up there with The Wire, Sopranos, Succession, or anything done by David simon. I loved everything about it, so beautifully written and so tastefully executed, no bullshit, no villains, no heroes, no cliches, just humans doing human things, that's how tv shows should be. Now there's a knot in my throat and this feeling of emptyness in me. I need reccomendations of shows similar to this, please.

Thanks in advance.

TD;LR is about PSTD, I thought was clear. I don't know if he is ASD and surely NOT NPD. NPD style is a psychological word, technical, for talking about people who aren't NPD.

I was reading thousand of articles about many many ASD (autism spectrum disorder, formerly "asperger") growing older achieve NPD (narcisistic spectrum disorder) both in style and behaviors as way to escape and self protection. I don't know why but Joe looks that stereotype. I was reading many many people got the misdiagnosis for this. In this article, which is obviously more chaos theory than a psychiatric research, go deep into ASD and NPD similitudes. Is interesting since is full of ASD people acting as NPD. The difference is clear in the end: NPD act selfish, ASD pretend. It isn't NPD, is a way to cope and healing... is a copying method in a world where you are a looser. Usually is also the worst step.

In the end he got healed stopping his NPD style.

Edit1: NPD traits = childhood traumas... whatever is ASD or not. I thought was granted, my fault.

Edit2: I was watching Avicii documentary and at some point he said "I'm an introvert who is pretending to be an extrovert" as ASD with NPD traits by myself with me what you see is the NPD behaviors and is really difficult see in me ASD traits unless I'm in crisis.

You see ASD traits when he got the crisis. Living with NPD traits means living in a nightmare, whatever is ASD or not... that's why are so bad.

For example both Gordon and Joe in my opinion are two side of ASD spectrum, Gordon the goofy and Joe the NPD and both are ok and here are evident. Both are copying with ASD in different ways, Gordon drinks heavily.

Here Joe isn't hiding any of his neurodivergence. Here he is hiding.

Halt and Catch Fire -- Season 1

It is everything for a man to be creative. To create something is to live. The process of creation is a way of acknowledging your existence. To diminish creativity is to diminish self reflection. To let creativity take the form of consuming and sitting back is the same as someone else living out of your life for you.

Success is celebrated thouroughly usually. But failure is also expressed equally harshly. It is a rare luxury of habit to be indifferent. Ups and Downs are both expressed. Most humans have habitualised themselves to expressing both. Reacting drains energy. Reacting to good made Gordon Clark buy ferrari that was eventually stolen. Reacting to bad made Cameron Howe break into the house of Donna Clark who eventually helped her recover her bios. Inaction is not Not-reacting. Inaction is a reaction. Awareness imbued action gives curiosity and knowledge. Awareness imbued inaction teaches patience and observation. It is animal to be unaware, non-reflecting. It is human to be aware, reflecting. To be aware is to be creative. To force awareness is not possible by definition, but imitation of awareness in this way drains energy. To habituatise to unawareness is to be addicted. To follow awareness is to be creative. Humans have many creative poles. Success is dictated by a degree of distance to these poles. So, this psychologically leads to celebration, mourning.

Sex can be a tool. Any biological drive can have a rederived purpose. Awareness of psychology is needed. Even anger, revenge, power. Nathan Cardiff had a psychology of power, derived to some extent. Joe Macmillan of enterprising, creativity. Gordon Clark of passion earlier, then family. Cameron Howe of passion, sex. What Jon Bosworth felt towards the young talent -- appreciation, parenting -- became a driver of creativity for him. Family, kids, relationship can be a burden to creativity, but it can also be an aid to creativity.

Vishal Paudel

2024-10-24 08:00 Thursday

Hi All! The fan Discord server is starting a new rewatch of the show at 9 pm EST Sunday Oct 20.

How it works: We watch one episode a week (currently Sunday nights) and live text chat while it's playing. We don't stream the show through Discord so you will need to have access to the show on your own device. Chat happens in the WATCH CLUB halt-and-catch-fire channel, there will be a 10 minute reminder at 8:50 but no countdown for starting the episode - just press play on your respective device at 9:00 and join the discussion. Hope to see you there!

Invite: https://discord.gg/SWb24rZh (if this is expired send me a message and I will get you a new link)

If this time doesn't work for you: There has been interest in doing a concurrent rewatch at a different time to accommodate other time zones and schedules. I've created an alternate-time-zone-discussion channel under WATCH CLUB, please feel free to post time/day ranges that work best for your area.

Other things: We occasionally watch other tech and tech adjacent shows and movies together, right now on Mondays at 9 pm EST we're watching For All Mankind. The server is fairly quiet outside of rewatch times, but feel free to look around and post in the other channels.

I'm 7 episodes into season 4, and I just wanna say it: I HATE DONNA, like I only liked that character for a season and a half, more or less. I love the actress though(and the writers obv), because for someone to actually play a loveable character at first then turn it into a rotten vengeful human, that takes skill.

I love Joe, Cam, Gordo and Bos (order irrelevant)