Just putting it out there, that giving hormones to kids who are short or sometimes "not tall enough" is (especially in these last years) not exactly rare thing in the USA, so all those people exgaratting it with Koreans should touch some grass. The saddest thing is, that it doesnt even work if not GH deficient - or at least not as much as parents wish. It is about the genetic material - potentially getting to the hight you would be if healthy, its mostly that simple. Sure, if soon enough and for a long time, I can believe that sometimes it can add up to 5 centimetres, I am not counting some cases of slightly more increase as those had "true ISS" or better said, they werent totally "normal/healthy growing child", based on all the information I gathered. And often the research is biased and shows only good "possible" outcomes. Genetic material is limited and some people dont get that, for healthy it often does nothing and in majority UP to 5 for huge price and with luck... and it cant be proven if it was thanks to the hormones, since we all know even the most precize predictions are not 100%, especially with children who are not extremely short. Even those with actual ISS (short without defiency) often are told they will be 5 ft at most, and are naturally 5 ft 2 or even more, without hormones, so... If you look at the newest fair research, it really doesnt do much and it was never proven, at the very least, often it does nothing or literal opposite!, so some people who act like it adds 4 or more inches usually, or are accusing 6 ft + guys of taking it, are really dumb. Well, I just wanted to say that this isnt some thing only in recent years of Korea, and people like to exgarrated stuff in recent years about them... its quite common also in USA and China. Also, you can easily find that even in this recent huge increase its up to 5% of under 20, naturally few years ago it would be way less etc. etc.,

ALSO: ISS is not the same as "regular" kid, as there are various types, though the affect is less to very similiar. These are the fair facts (plus in the other fair study, sometimes it really makes your growth plates close faster, resulting in opossite effect)

quote from the most fair study I found: What is already known on this topic

• Growth hormone therapy has been approved in the United States for children with idiopathic short stature
• A consensus statement proposed that children with height below −2.0 SD score and more than 2.0 SD score below their midparental target height warrant consideration for treatment

What this study adds

• The magnitude of effect of growth hormone in reducing the adult height deficit is on average less than that achieved in other conditions for which growth hormone is licensed, increasing adult height by about 4 cm
• To date no study has fulfilled the evidence based medicine criteria for high quality of evidence and strong recommendation
• The individual response to therapy is highly variable, and further studies are needed to identify the responders

https://nypost.com/2023/03/13/parents-say-growth-hormone-boosts-kids-chance-of-success/

https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/social-welfare/article/3145686/parents-china-are-giving-their-children-growth

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rise-growth-hormone-children-china-233225828.html

https://www.chinadailyhk.com/hk/article/263390

Hello everyone. I would like to share my story of growth hormone deficiency. I’m 44 years old guy. I’m physician. I have daughter who was diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency and started treatment last year and she is responding very well. I’m 5.5” tall. I’m been experiencing symptoms of brain fog, lack of concentration, muscle weakness ( had calf muscle ruptures 3 times while playing soccer) , exercise intolerance ( my heart rate will jump to 170 while running speed 4.5 on treadmill), central obesity, social withdrawal ( against my personality ), high LDL.etc. I read about growth hormone symptoms in adult after my daughter diagnosis . I found out I have 90% of GH deficiency symptoms . I decided to pursue work up. I had an appointment with general endocrinologist and did IGF-1 level and it came low normal at 72. The endocrinologist was not persuaded that I have GH deficiency and wanted to turn me away from his clinic.After multiple messages through MyChart , he finally agreed to do stimulation test which turned to be strongly positive . We did Brain MRI which showed compressed pituitary gland ( the gland that produces and releases GH in addition to other hormones ) . The other hormones were tested and turned to be normal. The endocrinologist then referred me to pituitary endocrinologist who prescribed GH hormone. I went through hassles with insurance ( I had to repeat the stimulation test ) to finally agree to pay for the treatment. I am going to start GH treatment next week. Why I am posting this ? I want to tell anyone who have symptoms to ask for IFG-1 level from PCP or general endocrinologist . If IGF-1 is low normal to be persistent about asking for stimulation test or pituitary endocrinologist referral. I have to admit, for me not being physician , the general endocrinologist wouldn’t have likely ordered the stim test

If my HGH level is 18.5 ng/ml with stimulation and I have a 10mg/1.5ml HGH how much should I take per day to get 28>x<30 ng/ml

1. Why do people say dont eat food an hour before or after taking human growth hormone?

Does it affect liver production of igf and thereby affect growth or is it just to max out fat loss benefits

2 if it does affect growth n liver production of igf, What is the minimum amount of time after a hgh shot can Somone eat and how much time after eating can Somone take an hgh shot again

3 heard like children with growth hormone deficiencies take large amounts like 8 or even 10 iu hgh a day

does liver have a limit of how much igf it can produce from a huge hgh shot?

Like if soemone is taking 4 iu, is it better to take 2 iu shot in morning and 2 iu shot at night Than taking a 4 iu shot in the morning? Or does it make no difference?

4. if it’s like the first in the 2nd question then how much hgh max can a person take at a time before it’s maxed out for the liver

5. Also if instead of morning and afternoon or morning and night if soemone is taking back to back straigh hgh shots in the morning itself what is the minimum amount of time between two hgh shots if someone is taking back to back shots

When answering please put the question number of which questions ur answering so it’s easier for me and everyone. Just answer the questions you know don’t need to answer all any help is appreciated, If any questions regarding any questions please comment down below thank u so much

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I am concerned for my 18 month old son who is quickly falling down the height percentiles. As a child, I took growth hormones for a few years. I’m now an average female height of 5’4”. I’m trying to estimate what height my child should be genetically. Did taking growth hormones as a child alter my genetics that I would pass along, or would estimating his adult height be more accurate using the height I would’ve been without hgh?

i used to buy the grey tops w.o a script back in 2017-2018 best product i ever tried. I tried omnitrope with the script and received same results with the grey tops for half the price. Pharmaceutical companies are 2 expensive i cant afford it long term. Like $1,200 for 100 units... im really hoping the grey tops are out there somewhere.