/r/GothicLanguage

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/r/GothicLanguage is a community dedicated to the discussion of the Gothic language.

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Welcome to /r/GothicLanguage! This community is dedicated to learning and discussing Gothic language and culture, as well as sharing resources that cater to this interest.

Gothic is an extinct East Germanic language fragmentarily attested in a number of religious texts. The bulk of attestation is found in a translation of the Gospels traditionally accredited to an early Arian bishop named Ulfilas (c. 311-383). Fragments of the Gospels survive in a number of codices, foremost among which is the Codex Argenteus. The Codices Ambrosiani contain additional fragments, including the Pauline epistles and an incomplete commentary on the Gospel of John referred to by scholars as the Skeireins (𐍃𐌺𐌴𐌹𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌽𐍃), the Gothic word for 'explanation'. Further fragments are found in the Codex Carolinus, Codex Taurinensis, Codex Gissensis, and Codex Bononiensis. Fragments of a calendar and deeds are also preserved.

Gothic is the earliest extensive record of a Germanic language. The only sources that predate it are fragmentary inscriptions written in runic script. Because of this, Gothic offers invaluable insight to the structure of its parent language Proto-Germanic, the theoretical ancestor of all Germanic languages including English.

We encourage anyone interested in the language to ask questions and share their knowledge on this subreddit. Posts in Gothic are also highly encouraged!


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Interested in old Germanic languages? Feel free to visit /r/OldEnglish for discussion and use of the Old English language!

/r/GothicLanguage

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Hello Everyone!

I’m new here and have garnered a fascination with this sadly extinct language. I’m attempting to construct a song about a hunter and animals in this tongue. Now being as far from a professional of linguistics, let alone a dead language, as I can be, I figured it would be tricky. But I had no idea how hard simply finding animal terms would be. I tried finding “rabbit/hare” and couldn’t even find an attempted reconstruction as of now. Even Wulfila’s efforts have failed me since one of the only times a rabbit is mentioned is in Leviticus—which we do not have.

So here I am. If anyone could give me some translations, or even an attempted reconstruction, I’m all ears.

I need:

  • Stag (there’s “dius” from which “deer” came from, but it’s too generic in the original tongue)
  • Owl (I’ve seen *uggwilla but unsure how good it is)
  • Sparrow
  • Rabbit or hare
  • Boar
  • Splinter

It would behoove me to actually write the song, but I need to write it down first. 🙃 It’s mostly in my head now but knowing the words ahead of time could help me plan the tempo and all of that.

5 Comments
2025/01/31
02:40 UTC

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Does a word for "dragon" ever appear in Gothic?

As the title states, does a word for dragon ever appear in Gothic? I know there are a handful of "dragons" (or thereof) in the Bible, but i have no idea if any of that ever made it into Gothic translation.

7 Comments
2025/01/19
11:11 UTC

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Some modern Gothic alphabet I created

Gutiska razda

I know that many of you will disagree with me on that. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

3 Comments
2025/01/13
15:30 UTC

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‘What the f*ck?’ in Gothic?

Please, let me know.

3 Comments
2025/01/12
18:55 UTC

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Are there communities that try to seriously use Gothic?

I see a lot of servers dedicated to the study of Gothic, but how many are serious about it and also try to use it as a conversational language?

5 Comments
2025/01/09
23:28 UTC

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Is the Wulfila Bible done by "Kessinger's Legacy Reprints" a good physical copy of the Wulfila Bible?

I've read that a lot are seemingly just IA pages printed out apparently? Is the KLR reprint a good version and if not, what copy is a good physical edition if there is one?

1 Comment
2025/01/08
05:42 UTC

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Galeikand im þo distahida

6 Comments
2024/12/30
22:17 UTC

9

How would one say "Happy New Year" in the Gothic language?

This question came to my mind today and I was wondering if anyone here knows how it would be

3 Comments
2024/12/30
15:54 UTC

2

Struggling with declension for sentence fragments

Hello! I'm trying to figure out the grammar. I'm trying to say "small beast" which has sent me down a rabbit hole. I've been trying to figure it out all morning but without the context of a sentence, and being just a two word term and not a complete sentence, I REALLY cannot figure out which case I am supposed to use at the level I know. Is it singular nominative?

If anyone has any advice I would really appreciate it. Please be kind I just started learning

2 Comments
2024/12/27
18:00 UTC

3

too heavy/för svårt - How did Gothic mark excessiveness?

I am trying to find out what Gothic used but I haven't found it. Is it known what was used?

6 Comments
2024/12/24
14:05 UTC

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How close were the Burgundian and Vandalic languages to Gothic?

Given that Burgundian and Vandalic were East Germanic languages, how close were they to the Gothic language?

Were could I read more about their relationship?

Thanks in advance!

2 Comments
2024/12/04
23:44 UTC

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Is this a good translation?

2 Comments
2024/11/20
02:28 UTC

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-eis vs -jis suffixes

Is there any way to know which of these two ends will a weak verb take ? I know it will take a long end -eis if the previous syllabe has a long vowel (sókeis, þugkeis) but, that's the only case I can foretell.

1 Comment
2024/10/29
15:24 UTC

9

Did the Gorhic language have exclamation/question marks?

6 Comments
2024/10/24
03:15 UTC

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Is there a standard way of spelling non-gothic sounds ?

I would like to know how would you gothify some of these names :

Manchester, Norwich, Cambridge, Sheffield

Chernobil, Chelyabinsk, Kamchatka, Voronezh, Izhevsk, Tselinograd

Ashgabat, Tashkent, dushanbe, Hiroshima

Najran, Jiddah, Jizan

Machupicchu, Chichén itzá, teotihuacán, Azkatlán

7 Comments
2024/10/22
11:11 UTC

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Translating ”Django Unchained“ into Gothic. 𐌳𐌶𐌰𐌲𐌲𐍉 𐌲𐌰𐌻𐌰𐌿𐍃𐌹𐌸𐍃?

Sometimes I localize posters for fun and I'm kinda into linguistics and scripts, so a Gothic Django poster sounds to me like a fun little project. I'm not a Gothic specialist, so I hope someone here could help me.

I watched the Göttingen University lectures from the pinned post and read several Wiki articles. My current (possibly wrong or rough) translation is 𐌳𐌶𐌰𐌲𐌲𐍉 𐌲𐌰𐌻𐌰𐌿𐍃𐌹𐌸𐍃.

As far as I understand, early Germanic languages didn't have the /ʒ/ phoneme, but /z/ was retracted [z̠] in Proto-Germanic and likely retained this quality in Gothic. But if it actually was [ʒ] or [z] as said in the phonology lecture, to me 𐌶 still looks like the best option.

Perhaps the name could be (somehow) adopted as a u-stem verb, but I ended up leaving it indeclinable / having an irregular declension like 𐍆𐌰𐍂𐌰𐍉. Anyway, I don't plan to use it it beyond this one title. Upd. As @arglwydes pointed out, it wasn't a good choice. 𐌳𐌶𐌰𐌲𐌲𐍉 can be declined as a regular ōn-stem noun.

According to Wiktionary, 𐌲𐌰𐌻𐌰𐌿𐍃𐌾𐌰𐌽 means to make loose or free, set free / to liberate, rescue. The Gothic Dictionary from the Resources post and some others I found in Google Books say more or less the same. Maybe there's a more direct or poetic way to translate unchained I didn't find.

And it seems that if I want it to mean the freed one or so, I need to use the past participle 𐌲𐌰𐌻𐌰𐌿𐍃𐌹𐌸𐍃.

Any suggestions and critique are welcome🙃

And if it's OK, I'll share the poster here then it will be finished.

16 Comments
2024/10/18
14:40 UTC

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Content in the Gothic language

I have seen that there is a small community that tries to use Gothic, such as the user that posts videos in the Gothic language and I was wondering if there are more channels that post content in the Gothic language.

Is there also music in the Gothic language? Any users that use Gothic for their music?

Also, do you think that if tried to do covers of pop songs into the Gothic language, that people would react positively to it? I feel like people like to use extinct languages for "Epic" music type of content, but I wonder how Gothic would sound like in a more modern setting, bringing it back for the 21st century.

13 Comments
2024/10/13
15:04 UTC

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Origins of letter names "thyth" and "chozma".

Hello!

From what Proto-Germanic *words could originate Gothic letter names "thyth" and "chozma" (𐌸𐌹𐌿𐌸 and *𐌺𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌰)?

Thanks!

3 Comments
2024/10/10
00:01 UTC

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Atta Unsar sung by AI

Was playing around with AI music and this was the product

https://suno.com/song/d6975279-8ede-4ff1-a0f3-0f3311dba54b

5 Comments
2024/10/06
09:32 UTC

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What are the Gothic words for Emperor and Empire?

Specifically in a Roman Empire sense. I'm playing a modded Crusader Kings 3 game as the line of Alaric ruling over Italy and I wanted to name my realm something on the same "tier" as the Roman Empire. How might you say "Gothic Empire" or "Emperor of the Goths"?

5 Comments
2024/09/05
08:09 UTC

5

What does the name "Wingureiks" mean? Or at least, what's the first part of it?

6 Comments
2024/08/29
23:14 UTC

3

ai and aí in Wulfilan alphabet

Hello! Were there any differences in writing of ai and in Wulfilan alphabet? Thank you!

6 Comments
2024/08/23
21:20 UTC

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Etymologies

Hi, I've been searching for a good while the gothic versions of the names Theudigisel and Reccared, however, I've searched through a good bunch of dictionaries and etymologies, and I can't find neither of this. Any good place I could find thesea t?

4 Comments
2024/08/16
04:36 UTC

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Can you suggest a good (physical) copy of Wulfila's Gothic Bible?

I was trying to find a good copy of this Bible and I'm not exactly sure where to find one. Ideally, I would like one that uses the OE characters and macrons found in this old copy:

https://archive.org/details/gothicandanglos00ulfigoog/page/46/mode/2up

I'm not sure if they make them anymore. I also would love a copy in the Wulfila's script. Ideally, in both :) Thanks!

4 Comments
2024/08/08
01:30 UTC

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After the Wielbark culture collapsed, would there have still been isolated Gothic-speaking communities in Poland in the 6th century?

6 Comments
2024/07/20
08:19 UTC

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Where to learn gothic

I have to learn gothic but I can't find any source to learn from cn anybody help

5 Comments
2024/07/04
06:39 UTC

5

Is there any word that means "music" in gothic? I've been looking for it for a while but haven't find anything

3 Comments
2024/07/02
15:16 UTC

6

On learning Gothic

Hey guys, I'm new on this topic so I wanted to be sure on which resources base on to learn Gothic. Any ideas?

4 Comments
2024/06/30
05:48 UTC

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