How would you change the last season of Gotham

The less you have, the more they're worth. To friends. S2e5 -The riddler, toasting on the double date with lee, gordon and Kringle.

Bruce: I want to hire you. I want someone to die. Matches Malone: Wait a while, they will.

S2e19 Hugo: Strong as an ox, fast as a snake... Peabody: mad as a hatter. There's no sense bringing them back from the dead if they're gonna come back crazy.

Ed: Hello Jimmy. Jim: Go to hell, Ed. Ed: Oh, you've already put me there. But not for long. This place is a huge puzzle, and puzzles are my forte. You won't beat me. Jim: I already did.

Theo: Come to me and I will show you the way to hell. Jim: I already know the way.

Butch: That woman is as insane as a bag of squirrels. Tabitha Galavan: She said she's cured Butch: That's what an insane person would say!

Gordon: I hate stakeouts Bullock: Half of good police work is the ability to sit on one's ass when it's called for Gordon: if that were true, you'd be commissioner.

Bullock: Look, I don't wanna speak ill of the dead, but these asshats had it coming. These asshats were professional arsonists.

Alfred: I said I'd do the killing. Bullock: Again, we're the cops. Don't tell us stuff like this.

Selina: Forensic guy Nygma: Street Trash girl Selina: You framed Gordon Nygma: And you tried to get a reward by turning him in

Reporter: Until when are you Acting Captain? Bullock: Until literally the second someone else wants the job.

Jim: You belong in your own asylum, Strange.

Every evil bastard in the world was just a kid once. -Bullock

My love life is an open book and a short and nasty one. -Bullock

Barnes: You were following a false notion of friendship. James Gordon is gonna get you killed one day. You know that? Bullock: Maybe. But until that day, I will never turn my back on him.

Nygma: I'm afraid Butch is right. For once.

Penguin: Tell me one reason I shouldn't kill you. Nygma (after cancelling his bribes for buying mayor votes): well, there are about 30 witnesses. Penguin: I DON'T CARE. (TV announcement of his win) Nygma: there's also that.

Bullock: Hey Ed, Even before you went crazy, I never liked you. Ed: Your zipper is down.

(talking about Butch Gilzean) Bullock: I guess they weren't threatened. Ed: By a 300-pound Gorilla?

Lucius: These days, I don't say impossible. ... Unlikely.

Bullock: Does no one die in Gotham anymore? ...

It's not a morgue, it's a motel.

Jerome Valeska: Lunatics and idiots? Ooh. My kind of people

Jim, about Lucius: What is your issue with him? Bullock: he's smarter than me. Yeah... Let's go

Bullock: I can't even do a jigsaw puzzle. I just smash the pieces with my fists till they all fit.

Tabitha: How stupid do you think we are? Ed: Do you really want me to answer that?

Os: Now you must be really proud of yourself, Ed. Thinking you've outsmarted me. Ed: It really wasn't a challenge.

Alfred: Thieves stealing from thieves is a victimless crime Master Bruce, you just walk away now.

Jim: You wanna get a drink? Bullock: It's noon. Jim: I didn't ask you what time it was, I asked you if you wanted a drink.

Considering just how corrupt the GCPD was throughout the entire first 4 seasons of the show, it really makes one wonder why Internal Affairs hasn't gotten in on this department as yet. Like seriously, how come no one who investigates corrupt cops for a living shut this entire department down a long time ago? As a matter of fact, the FBI usually gets involved when a police department becomes corrupt, and they usually investigate it, so why haven't they investigated the GCPD either?

I think it’s when Jordan and bullock grab machine guns and fire back at zsasz when he tries to kill butch and zsasz says “I’ll take that as a no!”

Overall, I thought it was a nice concept for the show. There is alot that can be done with a Gotham that is divided and controlled by different villains and factions. I wish it was longer though, there was a lot more i would have wanted to see. And I wish the show included an actual military response to the take over of Gotham instead of the lame excuse of the government just giving up on Gotham. So really it was a neat storyline but I want to know what your thoughts on it are

Question for you guys what would you change for Gotham Season 5 since alot odds people didn't liked the final Season what would you add or change??

Hello everyone ive just joined this group and I want to start of by saying how amazing the portrayals of the batman characters are. With different versions of these characters and background stories.

To start off; Penguin, Catwoman, Zsasz, Riddler, Scarecrow, Firefly, Mr Freeze, and Hugo Strange.

Penguin’s portrayal is absolutely incredible, Im an arkham batman fan so the similarities is similar, crime boss, mafia leader, penguin like features. This design and acting is great I love how he hated his name at first then it grew on him and his waddle and face makes him penguin.

Catwomans is not top of the list but I still like how they got her same age as bruce as they have a future relationship when he gets to be batman, I like her backstory and how you see the connection already with catwoman and bruce.

Zsasz is the best one in my opinion I love how hes used as a weapon, as hes quite a let down in Arkham Verse, And the bald tally scaring is great. Best villain so far.

Ive not seen the full potential from riddler so far hes turned murderous but nit full riddles and tricks, i like the backstory and how hes been treated in the GCPD.

The same with the scarecrow I like how his father did experiments with fear on his som and went crazy leading him to fear scarecrows nit much to talk about but cant wait for his villainous rise.

Mr freeze, I like the backstory with his wife and honestly this version of how he became mr freeze is way better than arkham’s version of falling into subzero liquid. Strange’s part in saving him after he tried to end his life with the freeze ray but used the wrong one is great.

With that being said I really like Professor Stranges portrayal in Gotham i was really annoyed at him in arkham, this version of him experimenting on patients is fantastic.

Characters I cant wait to see; Riddler, Professor Pyg, Scarecrow, Killer croc, Joker, Two-Face, Bane.

As before Riddler and Scarecrow can grow to be much bigger and better if i see this i will be grateful.

Looking at darvey dent supporting gordon and then going against him shows that two sides of him. Wonder how his two-face form looks.

Killer croc and Bane maybe a bit too powerful for gotham and might not see their mid form but maybe seeing bane expirement or find titan and/or venom will be interesting and how killer croc gets his powers either born with like in arkham or disease or expirements maybe from strange will be great to see.

Finally I think Professor Pyg is the one im looking forward to the most after seeing The doll maker in it i have an idea how he might be portrayed, and the detective work that james gordon puts in might make this a great case. Also the dark scening of gotham and horror like detective theme will fit perfectly.

Honorable mention to Gordon and Alfred love to young versions but its what I expected so not to fond on it but still great.

Thank you if you read all this. Please respond if you can id love to hear your opinions and feedback.

I love YouTube shorts

Hate this guy with a passion

“But even good men have secrets.”

A long time ago Camren Bicondova was part of an auction and I ended up winning some Gotham scripts, a painting, as well as some other things (all signed by Camren). I am really in need of the money right now but I am worried nothing will sell.

Any speculation as to why Jeremiah’s look and accent changed from S4 to S5? I figured it had to do with the insanity gas but maybe there’s more to it.

Has anyone figured out who was the actress that played Lila Valeska? I can't find it anywhere..

Everything about this bitch gets completely under my skin. Out of all the shows and movies I’ve watched, she is in my top 3 of characters I HATE!

I just rewatched the dark knight and the actor David Dastmalchian who plays the guy who brings Jerome back to life plays one of joker thugs in The Dark Knight I thought that was a nice touch.

Spoiler alerts for s1 and s2. (And from a further season I'm not sure about)

So, he started as this righteous cop. All good, Gotham needs one. Then, he starts doing bad stuff for the greater good. Still fine, he is consistent. And then, the stuff with Barbara happens (which, i blame Barbara, she is crazy and a terrible character imo. They both go and suck other people's faces, Barbara does to everyone in her vicinity.) when she comes back to the precinct, he chases her and a lot of other ppl in the station die. Next time, she comes to "give herself up" and will "only speak to Jim" still great, but why TF did he kiss her? He has lingering feelings, and then why is he stringing along the doctor? He leaves with her to get her secrets out, refuses to listen to his actually-righteous boss, endangers (and possibly causes the death of) multiple officers. In the cathedral, he doesn't take the shot at Barbara, even when he had many open shots and she gave him every reason to. He didn't even need to do a fatal shot, he could just shoot her on her foot or knee or something.

We then have the thing with the assassins coming after them, where he once again turned "good cop", didn't kill (or injure) a man-eating male assassin (Eduardo) which causes another newbie graduate to die a horrible death. The whole thing with Theo Galavan happens, he kills him and gets help from Penguin. Lies to everyone, including the doctor/fiance/whatever they are. Finds out she is pregnant, decides to leave with her, they're gonna be OK. But NO. He folds once again, goes back with penguin, his partner, a couple of others. You can see the exhaustion on Lee's face, which was lowkey mirroring mine, even though we both knew he was never gonna leave to begin with.

Arkham stuff with the freezing guy happens, Lee does something that is maybe a fraction of his doings so far, and he accuses her. He pulls the "you endangered our baby blah blah blah" at every step instead of properly planning this and protecting her. He still hides stuff from her, a person who accepted him killing someone for penguin even though she didn't want him to go back to the job. He is an idiot.

I also read spoilers that at some point, he will have a one night stand or something with Barbara (WTF? Why is he sticking his dick in crazy and without protection) and she will get pregnant. I liked his character in the beginning, but he is turning into an indecisive, whiny ******** and he is annoying me more and more. I hope they fix his character more, along with nearly all the female cast ESPECIALLY Barbara bc the writers seem to not understand anything about the opposite sex.

Anyways, rant over. I just find him very frustrating despite liking him a lot in the beginning.

Hey Gothamites So I asked this on tumblr already but I really want to know if anyone has said anything official about it so I’m asking here too

Does anyone know why Jerome wears his white gloves all the time after he comes back to life? He doesn’t wear them really at all during his first life.

I have read a ton of interviews with Cameron Monaghan and Gotham’s lovely costume designer Lisa Padovani and haven’t been able to find anything on it.

(I’d also love to hear fan theories as to why he chooses to wear them!)

I love them so much. I hated the time period when they were at each others throats. Their chemistry is amazing and I just love their friendship and wish it had gotten to develop to more.

Did some digging and read somewhere that the writers had said they got together off screen? Or something? Because Fox wouldn’t allow it on screen? And something about lines being rewritten? And I can’t seem to find any actual screenshots or anything of what was said, does anyone know? I neeeed more ed & Oswald content.

In my head these two ended up together lol. That finale hug just got me in my feels.

Theories? Opinions? In my heart, Ed did eventually fall in love with Pengy too.

Jerome Valeska:

PERSONALITY:

- Dark Knight Returns Joker

- Silver Age Joker

- Arkham Knight Joker

- The Killing Joke Joker

MANNERISMS:

- Jack Napier Joker

- Heath Ledger Joker

- BTAS Joker

- Dark Knight Returns Joker

- Arkham Origins Joker

OUTIFIT:

Golden Age Joker

New 52 Joker, Death of The Family, Batman Endgame

Joker Arkham Asylum and Knight

Joker (All Star Batman and Robin)

Jeremiah Valeska:

PERSONALITY:

Golden Age Joker

Dark Knight Returns Joker

The Killing Joke Joker

A Death in The Family Joker

New Eart Joker/ Prime Earth Joker in general

The Killing Joke Joker

Grant Morrison's Joker

BTAS Joker

Arkham Origins, Asylum and Cirty Joker

MANNERISMS:

Arkham City Joker

BTAS Joker

Golden Age Joker

Heath Ledger Joker

OUTFIT:

Arkham Origins Joker

Assult On Arkham Joker

BTAS Joker in general

Batman 89 Joker

I finally finished Gotham and holy did I love this show. It was a different take on the rogues and it was awesome, I loved the romance between Bruce and Selina and Jim and Harvey were awesome. But why the heck did it have to end like that, why couldn’t Selina and Bruce had their happy ending man. Though I will say it makes sense because in most iterations in the comics they never get married or anything.

Do you think the show would have been much better if the campiness tone was not included?