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We're gaining the power of gods, but without the love, wisdom and discernment of gods—that is a self-extinction scenario. Welcome to Game B, a transcontextual inquiry into a new social operating system for humanity. Game A is what got us to this time of metacrisis and collapse. Game B is what emerges in response. Play with us as we learn to become wiser, together.

We're gaining the power of gods, but without the love, wisdom and discernment of gods—that is a self-extinction scenario. Welcome to Game B, a transcontextual inquiry into a new social operating system for humanity. Game A is what got us to this time of metacrisis and collapse. Game B is what emerges in response. Play with us as we learn to become wiser, together.

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Peth on Bankless Podcast: MetaGame

It was great to meet Peth in person at Burning Man this year, he was at our sister camp DECENTRAL in Anahasana Village!

Learn about MetaGame and Peth here: https://youtu.be/LyDwK9a8KrQ

--Spacious

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2022/10/15
01:47 UTC

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Why is this place empty?

Is this over already…

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2022/08/17
21:20 UTC

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Do the work

Everything about participating in this endeavor feels futile and shockingly difficult.

The very nature of attending to these questions honestly is fraught.

We must find answers that are not only correct but can also compete in a market where the competition is an infinite variety of pornagrafic Skinner Boxes.

This problem may well be the greatest possible “dragon”

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2022/06/13
03:23 UTC

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Another analogy to Game B?

I've heard the "Game B" term thrown around for years, but never really bothered to look into it until now. Still trying to wrap my head around it, but I've got an analogy that I think (at this point anyhow) seems pretty good, but which I haven't heard elsewhere: Game B is to society writ large as the "invisible hand" is to market economics. The latter concept describes the process by which millions of independent actors with differing interests and knowledge nevertheless determine and transmit something like the true value of a good or service. Likewise, Game B is the "invisible mind" by which truth and "goodness" is discerned, priced--i.e. balanced against competing interests, and distributed. Something like that. This seems not all that different from the emergent "egregor" that some people talk about, but I think it's maybe an easier analogy for many Game Aers to wrap our heads around.

Thoughts?

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2022/06/02
14:30 UTC

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Are there any game b thinkers studying religion?

John Vervaeke is the main one who comes to mind, but I'm sure there are others.

For something like Game B to work I would imagine it would share a lot with religion. If so, studying the mechanics of religion would make sense here?

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2022/05/07
21:52 UTC

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Gameb in art form

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2022/01/25
13:29 UTC

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This brand new video is fantastic. Tells the story of Game B with an awesome pixel animation style. produced by Jim Rutt and others. Daniel Schmachtenberger and Jordan Hall and others were advisors.

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2022/01/18
02:11 UTC

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What role will spirituality play in Game B?

I've often wondered if the enormous problems created by Game A could be helped from a better understanding of humanity's spiritual needs.

Do we (humanity) need to engage in spiritual pursuits and rituals to meet some human psychological need that is mainly cultural muscle memory?

Do we add meaning to our lives through spiritual pursuits (meaning that is sometimes elusive when dealing with tangible things and data-proven facts)?

Do we benefit from the willing suspension of disbelief in some way? If the answer to that is 'yes', could experiences in theatres, dance halls, and art exhibitions create a similar benefit by the act of that willing suspension of disbelief?

Grateful for any thoughts.

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2022/01/01
00:08 UTC

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A compilation ive gathered of GAME B solutions /ideas

A compilation of GAME B solutions/ rudiments of ideas:

1)Long Neoteny and the extreme neuroplasticity we have - i.e the education we get during childhood, shapes our worldview in extremely deep and long lasting ways. Good examples are Nord Korean ,Orwellian lenses ,individualistic/collectivist societies; the allegory of the cave, how language and concepts shape our minds etc; Maybe even the ancient animistic worldviews can be included: where the hunters thanked the prey for sacrificing itself for the tribe, talking about the newborn baby and how the newest mother from the village, really needed this food; then all of reality was mysterious and alive; for us, in modernity there is little wonder left, we're having a meaning crisis (a small part of it is because of our adherence to certain materialistic/individualistic/nihilistic worldviews).

I think those concepts are useful to triangulate what I mean; anyone with an extremely religious upbringing instilled in childhood, would be able to attest as well, how we bassically dont know anything and believe by default, in the way our parents/social circle and experiences desribe things - and we become preset towards certain interpretations about ourselves/reality/others/ the future etc.

So if the child is instilled with principles that game B keeps mentioning, like the idea, that all of humanity is in the same boat, that competition and capitalism (externalizes its cost, and destroys our environment) ,is bassically a race towards a red light. If the educational process would have a class for this,to iluminate the ideas of him/her being a global citizen, an ancestor for the future generations, another link in the chain of humanity and life, a transient steward of earth (cosmopolitanism) etc.

2)Block Chain digital currencies, Universal Basic Income or other economic/fiscal systems to replace the current one, because capitalism is failing (it isnt even text-book capitalism anymore, because of central banks' interventions - through quantitative easing,algorithmic buying and selling on the stock markets/ fractional reserve banking,fiat currencies, because of the petro-dollar hegemony, instead of a gold backed currency (in the least)/the Repeal of the Glass-Steagall act (ceasing the separation investing banks and commercial banks) and Externalising the costs towards the environment, we also have a growth based economy in a resource-finite planet/ Inter-connected supply chains ,for instance a laptop could have minerals from 30 countries,components manufactured in 10 , and assembled in one place to reach the final product- this esnures peace ,and interdependence , but it also assures fragility of the system.

It's all happening in the context of the Breton Woods convention/ pax Americana context, where US policed the world's oceans and ensured that trade is easier than conflict -for everyone) which could be a fragile state of affairs, as China and Russia might step up (or US could attack before its outranked ,a geopolitical game theoretic principle called Thucydides' Trap ); communism failed everywhere when it was tried we need something else fast.

  1. The idea that: the level of the "City" , is where governing meets reality, and anything above that (county ,nation etc) begins to get distorted and corruption,kleptocracy, unrepresentativeness appears. Jacque Valee with his Zeitgeist movement, noticed this first, Jordan Hall's Civium is something similar.

4)The Dunbar Number type of inter-individual relationships -Meaning us, evolving in tribes of 100-150 people and being held accountable for our actions amongst other things, our work having meaning and recognition; gossip and social comparison having a regulatory funciton, a tab keeping funciton,a motivational function ; the concepts of in-group and out-group - only had "local" relevance and not global as they do today .The stable 2% of the population being psychopathic , didnt matter then, with those small population sizes etc. That was our environment of evolutionary adaptadness (EEA), everything must be viewed through that lens ,even diets for longevity and other factors of well-being have to start from that viewpoint in order to be succesfull.

  1. Psychedelics -as quick shortcuts to underestanding- in an embodied,experiential ,life-changing, long lasting way - these realisations, that are recurentlly talked about in Game B .

6)The efforts to ensure sense-making, coherence,education of the population beyond a tipping point (because you have to know a lot of information to even be cognisant that we're in a civilisational collapse scenario/extinction scenario). The enemy here is social media platforms' algorithms, which keep the world devised into eco-chambers which can vallidate any belief, as anything that is clicked will become recurent in that individual's feed ,and also polarize and antagonise groups, as an indirect result ,by trying to generate add-revenue and maximise time-on-site for the company.


*I would suggest a place that becomes a central node to this network, a brand, a flag, a naming of our certain body of ideas (as the name GAME B ,Intelectual Dark Web etc was) a place where people can converge and intersect,where everything branches off of; Also curation would be the hardest thing (what to include or exclude in it).


  1. Technology somehow saving us (be it colonising other planets/fixing our energy use through nuclear fission,renewables and electric cars or other things along those lines/

Fixing our environment through technology or regenerative agriculture, forestation etc/

Uploading our consciousness into digital environments and letting an A.I manage this massive amount of data, thus making ourselves apart of that A.I,being useful to it, so as to eliminate the risk of it killing us.

8)Regression as our only sollution,a massive decrease in population (carrying capacity of the planet vs living standards- that would be an interesting debate),would we choose a global one child policiy ,or a eugenics programme ,to better our species ,or what will we do? If the lab leak hypothesis is to be believed and there being inetentionality and agency behind it, it seems others are already ahead of us, in this regard ,willingly or not.

  1. An inverse of a population's addictiveness as a measure of its well-being and not using GDP as a metric.

Please add your own

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2021/12/27
23:41 UTC

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GameA*

You know gameA was nonsense. ... Right?

Why go gameb when we can fix gameA? GameA*, r/ModernGnostic; end the fascism. ... Not saying you all are, gameA is.

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2021/11/03
22:32 UTC

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I made a portrait of the intrepid Daniel Schmactenberger, he brought me here and gave me hope

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2021/08/22
02:42 UTC

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How to Become Intellectually Fashionable

https://link.medium.com/kbeoUqkPcgb

Submission statement:

The idea came to me as I read “Ethics” is Advertising by David Chapman.

His discussion of social class struck me. He talks about the badges we wear, the products we buy, and the excessive time we spend, all to signal who we are, and what social class we’re part of, to everyone around us.

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2021/05/12
19:39 UTC

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Daniel Schmachtenberger’s Road to a New Civilization — A Critique

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2021/04/11
15:03 UTC

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The Teleology of Humanity & Civilisation

The idea is simple.

H&C is the unitary conceptual representation of all individuals and institutions.

The Good of H&C aligns with every ind and every ins. And vice versa.

Every entity (ind/ins) has Power and Responsibility. P and R come together in the Narrative that the individual plays out.

N is a shared construct.

The Grand-Narrative is for H&C to become the powerful and responsible God-Construct it can and should be.

The scope is eternity.

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2021/04/10
08:55 UTC

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Blockchain and being a good neighbor

I have been working on this idea for the last six years. On occasion I work up enough confidence to try and share it in an effort to continue snowballing it into existence. The total plan I have so far is over 30 pages now, and I can get a tolerable detailed summary down to about two pages. Here is my latest attempt at an "elevator pitch".

The Good Neighbor Association (GNA) is an open source tool that teaches, inspires, and leverages individuals to be good neighbors, and to improve our communities at the most local level. Not only does it provide a simple guide to basic home stewardship, but it also organizes a path to more advanced trade skills, understanding of personal financing and investing for retirement, and a number of other opportunities for a fulfilling way to make a living. Then encase those functions in a blockchain ledger that uses smart contracts to take the place of middle men like banks, title companies, realtors, property management companies, and even take most advantage of tax structures. All these profits that usually end up at the top of the legacy systems (definitely not pyramids), now can get divided up more locally to the people who are actually part of the Houstory. Banks basically crowdfund money into existence to lend out to home buyers, why can’t we do the same? Take $1,000 from 100 people, give them the same return you would pay a bank. If you don’t leverage above 80% market value, and you have smart, transparent repair budget management, it makes for a pretty safe investment. All the financial elegance is still only a by product of the main goal to create communities of Good Neighbors that know each other and take care of each other. Maybe this will also lessen the growing impact of an aging master tradesmen population, that doesn’t seem to be getting filled by new apprentices at the same rate. Repercussions of our current education system and the arbitrary decisions about what is important to learn, and how to learn it.

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2021/03/25
12:45 UTC

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Waiting for the Government?

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2021/03/20
15:09 UTC

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7 Mental Upgrades From the Rationalists — Part Two

7 Mental Upgrades From the Rationalists — Part Two

Welcome to part two of the Mental Upgrades series! If you’re just joining me now, here’s all you need to know — The Rationalist community is a group of people endeavoring to think better. They investigate glitches in human reasoning and how to overcome them. As before, I’ve embedded links to each post used within the essay.

This is longer than part one because these ideas are more complex and better served by examples. It’s worth the time, as I find these ideas more rewarding than the first set. Special thanks to Anna Salamon, Eliezer Yudkowsky, and LukeProg for sharing their brilliant ideas. I take their work very seriously, in keeping with Jim Keller, that great ideas reduce to practice.

Let me know what you think!

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2021/03/15
20:09 UTC

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7 Mental Upgrades from the Rationalists

7 Mental Upgrades from the Rationalists

The Rationalist community is a group of people endeavoring to think better. To do this, they investigate glitches in human reasoning, and how to overcome them. My initial fascination with this topic began when I read The Elephant in the Brain by Robin Hanson. If you actually want to know how you tick, it’s the #1 book I’d recommend. It deserves its own post, which I plan to write soon.

Ever since Hanson’s book, I’ve wanted to find other resources I could leverage to improve my thinking. Enter Less Wrong and the Slate Star Codex.

For the last week, I’ve been reading various posts from LW and the SSC to get a sense of what else is out there. The material on these two sites is spectacular, and has quickly become my favorite corner of the internet.What follows is a brief list of mental updates I’ve made (so far) in response to this embarrassment of riches. I’ve embedded links to each blog post I’ve used for my list.

I’d love to turn this into a series if you find it useful.

Let me know what you think!

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2021/03/03
00:03 UTC

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You Need To Hear This (spoken word)

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2021/02/25
04:10 UTC

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Auroville, the world's largest intentional community

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2021/02/17
16:02 UTC

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Interview with Jim Rutt about GameB, Complexity and Hierarchies

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2021/02/12
15:29 UTC

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