Hi,

I've been offered the chance to moderate a podcast program for "exxers" across religious groups/ movements/ cults/ conspiracy groups. 

Theme:

To help us become agents of change in our new and past societies through sharing our first-hand, practical information on, for example;

• how to influence friends/ families to accept our views
• handle rejection
• overcome religious trauma
• create change movements

 Topic information will be sourced from reliable and original places like neuroscience; bios of well-known & less-well known experts in these domains; subreddit discussions (e.g. r/ entrepreneur & -experts); and Alinsky's citizen handbook with rules on how to change the world.

I'm new to this, so I would love your feedback on how I can improve this plan.
Also, if you'd like to be part of this, either DM me and/ or join .

Thanks!

My fiance and I left the church 2 years ago, but I tell people I left 8 month or a year ago because that's legit how long it's felt like I've been out of the church. It still feel new to me even though it's not. The world is still opening up to me in wonderful ways. It's like unlocking portions of a map I didn't know existed. And this feeling of constant newness perhaps is the reason I feel like I just left the church this year but in reality it's been longer

Hi,

I've been offered the chance to moderate a podcast program for "exxers" across religious groups/ movements/ cults/ conspiracy groups. 

Theme:

To help us become agents of change in our new and past societies through sharing our first-hand, practical information on, for example;

• how to influence friends/ families to accept our views
• handle rejection
• overcome religious trauma
• create change movements

 Topic information will be sourced from reliable and original places like neuroscience; bios of well-known & less-well known experts in these domains; subreddit discussions (e.g. r/ entrepreneur & r/persuasion-experts); and Alinsky's citizen handbook with rules on how to change the world.

I'm new to this, so I would love your feedback on how I can improve this plan.
Also, if you'd like to be part of this, either DM me and/ or join .

Thanks!

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Just that. I'm not specifically saying where, partially to avoid self-doxxing, partially because I haven't settled on any one location, and partially because there's currently nowhere on the planet I can afford rent or a mortgage. (Yay working corporate retail)

I should be fairly safe for now, though. I don't have any extravagant plans yet, and while I'm not fully sure if or how I want to make any content, I do have a few unofficial ideas when I have my own safe space to record.

I'm obviously not looking for any financial or in-person offers right now; as nice as it would be; I know there are bad actors that would eat me out.

That being said, there's just something oddly satisfying about being a thorn in the Church's side that there's effectively nothing they can do about.

I say to myself that out of respect for my old friends I still don’t tell anyone about what goes on in the temple. What do you guys think about talking about the temple as an apostate exmormon?

Heading to the bar with a group of exmos to discuss. I'm obsessed with the ending credit song and the interation thing. Yes. Obviously I had a large drink. Shhh.

Any thoughts to share with the group?

How many of you or how common is it for people who leave the church WITH their spouse end up divorcing? Even after having kids and a relatively good marriage, somehow found ourself in this boat of having divorce and possibility.

Screw the church.. recklessly setting us up to fail. Married at 20 in under a year after being on missions and rushing right into life before you know who you are and what you want….

A24 almost never disappoints. Unlike the temple, you definitely will learn something new each time you see it or discuss it with others.

I don't want to over hype it; but also, don't under estimated this one either.

All recent temples are a package highend housing realistate deals

I’m watching “The Holy War” (go Utes!) and mused about what any or all of those Black BYU players would think if they read that address that the namesake of their university gave to the Utah Legislature back in the day, expressing his views about “the Negroes” and their place in society. Hmmmm?

Hint hint -- Per endowment ceremony and its penalty, if one were to reveal its secret, such as "Magic Underwear" is spoken or revealed - thy throat is to slit. Mr. Reed swiftly enact it.

Does anyone ever still catch themselves thinking like a Mormon, then catch yourself and have to remind yourself you were brainwashed? If so, how do you deal with it? If not, how do I get to the point where I don't do it anymore?? It's been over 10 years since I stopped going to church, around 6 since I stopped wearing garments, etc...but I still find myself thinking things like, "Oh, but I promised ______ in the temple" or "God wouldn't want..." I'm not even sure I believe in God anymore...

My nephew was called to serve in Salt Lake City, and his mother asked the entire family to write him some advice for his mission, and a favorite scripture. Having left the church 6 years ago, my in law family chose to just pretend like it doesn't exist and avoid the topic of my leaving all together. My nephew is of course young, 18, naive, and all he knows is what his parents taught him. I wanted to be supportive of his decision and respectful of his faith, but I also wanted to give him some solid advice as an ex-member. Here is what I wrote, I hope you like it:

Mission Advice:

You will come up against some very jaded people, cynical people, and angry people. Please understand that the hate they give is not directed at you. Usually people who are hostile are ones that are carrying a lot of emotional pain, and that pain has nothing to do with you. Tell them you don't mean to cause harm and wish them well.

When you encounter someone who was in the church and had left (you will encounter many in Salt Lake City) please ask them why they left, and take the time to listen to what they have to say. Just allowing them to speak, and not casting them out, or making a judgement of why they departed, is one of the most Christlike things you can do. And when you return home, I hope by then you might feel comfortable to ask me that question too.

Do not allow every single man that says "thus sayeth the Lord" to dictate your life. Always ask yourself first "is this spoken with the spirit of Godly love?" There is no fear, threat, manipulation, persuasion or anger in Godly love. Always hold up the bright light of God's love against everything you are commanded to do and live by and teach. If the person's words are not as bright as the love of God for all mankind, it is not to be followed. Remember that you follow Christ, not man. 💗

And lastly, remember the greatest two commandments of all: (I guess this is my favorite scripture!) Thou shalt love the lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. and the second is like unto it: thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

If you are a missionary full of love, serving God and your fellow man, loving without conditions, your mission will always turn out a successful mission. 🙏

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This was one of my statements in a convo with a TBM. Her google search turned up nothing as well.

This is a spoiler free review. For analysis and personal headcanons, I'll be writing that up later. For now, enjoy. -~-

Heretic (2024) is a thriller movie brought to us by A24 and directed by Scott Beck and Brian Woods. It follows a pair of sister missionaries in Boulder, CO as they are confronted by an investigator who seeks to convert them to his own belief. Hugh Grant, Sophie Thatcher, and Chloe East are the leads of the film and perform marvelously in my opinion.

You might notice I didn't call the film a horror movie. Personally, I would classify it under thriller since the emotions the movie made me feel personally align less with horror. The friends I went to see it with were split on where it truly counts. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely horror elements. I personally think it focuses more on the cat-and-mouse aspect than the chase. Please feel free to share your thoughts below if you ever already seen it.

Grant's Mr. Reed is delightfully chilling. He's so charismatic, which makes his actions all the more disconcerting. There were times watching were he convinced me of things I as an audience member could clearly see were wrong. I'd love to see Hugh Grant pursue more villainous roles like this.

Sophie Thatcher was a commandong presence on screen. Her Sis. Barnes reminded me of many a fellow young woman whose faith was more nuanced and quite honestly probably PIMO. Her intelligence and compassion for her companion make her a character you want to see make it out. I'm curious to watch Yellowjackets now, which is one of her other major projects.

Chloe East has the biggest "brand new missionary" energy I've ever seen on screen and I loved it for her. Sis. Paxton's ardent desire to follow the rules and bring her form of joy to others was nostalgic in a way. I'd also argue she was the main character for reasons I'll go into later on. I hope she gets more roles as I loved her energy and expressions.

As someone who often is able to predict where a movie will go, I was surprised by the story and how how much was kept under wraps until the last 30 minutes. I was also a fan of the camera work. The prolonged close ups and characters looking down the camera reminded me of Silence of the Lambs (1991) and were used with the same design - to make the viewer uncomfortable. Overall I felt the technical aspects of the movie were executed well.

I do suggest people watch it if they enjoy a very cerebral movie. It wasn't quite what I expected before going in, but I wasn't disappointed in the slightest.

I work for a credit union, I helped an elderly woman today and saw her account was on overdraft. What caused the over draft? And ACH payment to the church. She got an NSF fee on top of that. It made me sad and angry for her.

This weekend I was hanging out with 2 of my friends that are TBM. We have been friends for years, we've all moved away from one another and remained friends. One asked me what Ward I am currently in. I looked at her and said "I have no idea, I haven't gone to church in over a year." They both looked puzzled and then I told them I left the church.

IT FELT AMAZING TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD!!!

I am pretty sure we'll still be friends. But, if not, that's ok.

Watching the game tonight? BYU alums, do any of you still root for the Cougs now that you’re out of the church, or are you anti-Cougar? Any PIMOs secretly rooting for Utah?

Spoilers Heretic:

Basically title. I enjoyed the film and just wanted to say that’s where I thought it was going but he ended up attacking religion in general.

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td;rl I am supposed to talk to a mormon relative in a month or few. I'm a young adult who is wondering how to fix some patches with people so to speak. I'll filter as much as possible to respect other's privacy.

I was in a long incel / neck beard phase. The lds church has shady teachings on body -atanomy. And teaches teenage boys that they are deviants who have hormone prowess. This is a hard leap for me but hoping I'll be brave!

I don't know how to convince this person how that was from the church's teachings on the "words of wisdom" and sexual chastity. Most people thought they knew what they were best when they were teenagers. Sure! I have PTSD but might have C-PTSD instead. I also survived >!physical assaults and sexual trauma!<

Presumably some priesthood holders told other relatives to make character assassination blogs on me! It's revolting since my mom was one of them. Some advice and encouragement would help me and comfort my ailments please.

My mom is watching stake conference and I overheard this gem. Deadass thought the speaker meant "to be married." Pray for me y'all 😭

I was not a purposely mean companion. I was aways the one to cook and clean and I definitely always wanted to be friends with my comps and have a good relationship. I only had a few really bad comps (I got so lucky, I know).

But now that I’m exmo, I worry that I caused stress, trauma, guilt, and/or shame for my comps ya know? I really hope I didn’t. I would hate to have caused trauma to someone else for something as stupid as the church.

But I was very devout, 19, and my family was abusive so I am sure that I was difficult to deal with. Wish I could take it all back!!

Anyone else worry about this type of thing?

Of all the reasons I'm out now (and will never turn back), there was one little bit of info I convinced myself was pretty significant. Looking back now, I realize I was grasping at anything, desperate not to shake up my comfortable life.
The faith-promoting thing I held onto was a thought I had once: In Abraham, it's explained that one day on Kolob, 'the star nearest to the throne of God,' is equivalent to a thousand years of our time. Something like that.
At the time, I had a rudimentary understanding of the theory of relativity. Basically, people traveling at super fast speeds, or in extreme gravitational fields, would experience time at a different rate than someone in lower gravity or not traveling so fast. In my mind, Smith had cracked into some great scientific truth 63 years before Einstein came around with his theory.
Then I learned about the Book of Abraham and the made-up nonsense, which finally snapped me out of it.
It's no longer faith-promoting for me, but I do still look at this and think it's a cool coincidence. You know what they say about a broken clock though—it's right two times a day.
Curious if anybody else built up the significance of something like this (or this specific thing) in their minds while they were in?