Hello, would like some other opinions as to what this may correlate too stress wise. I realize some types have

When I’m in stress, I just shut down. I get shit done, quickly because I just see it as more stuff in the way keeping me from reaching what I’m trying to get done.

I push my emotions down, I become very stoic and short, quiet and just focused on what is at hand and tell myself to feel it later.

When I get home however, I just become exhausted. I get tired, not wanting to do anything (Even the thought of obligations or hanging out with friends and loved ones make me irritated) and I feel upset that there’s no time to stop- just go go go. Usually I like having things to do but it becomes too overwhelming.

I start neglecting my own physical needs and keep myself distracted with tasks or things that don’t even contribute to anything. Spending money on delights or things that aren’t necessarily a need. It’s embarrassing but I can live in a bit of filth because as soon as I’m home- I just spend time on my phone. I get so mad at myself because I know there’s so much I want and need to do but I can’t bring myself to do them.

My creativity is gone and I loose sight of what I’m working towards and things feel absolutely pointless or not worth it. I still fulfill obligations but I just space out, feel dispassionate and feel irritated be anywhere.

Thoughts?

General :

• very creative with words and quik to react when people say stuff

• a natural hypochrondiac (health anxiety)

• loves music to death its an obsession

• can be argumentive and provoke debates for the sake of it

•intolerant to bs and fake people

•not materialistic at all and dont care abt succes

•cant sit still and want stimulation most of the time

•likely to panic really bad in stressfull situations and its obvious to the external world

•likes controversial and offensive topics and is into dark jokes

•having no filter in public or with people unaware of it

•secretly very critical and selective with people

•non conforming and can come off as selfish

• very philosopical and likes deep talks

• either very sirious or complete goofing around

• one on one interactions over groups and many friends

• rebellious and Straightforward

•cares about physical safety but doesnt mind a argument and wont back away

•unconsiously avoids any anxiety or unpleasant things and distract myself from it and act like it aint there

•my vieuw on things are constantly changing

•likely to follow my own path

•wants to feel excitement 80% of the time

At my best :

• energetic ,talkative and innovative with many ideas •buy many things i want •very fair and is loyal and keeps promises •very humble •easy to forgive people •very supportive and will help u be the best version of yourself •less self indulgent and more justice focused •wont argue over small things

At my worst:

•very grumpy irritated and likely to not engage in normal conversations •very judging off everything •more emotional or either numb with moodiness •doesnt care about others feelings •wont plan out activities •stays in comfort zone •avoids responsabilities

Need help finding your enneagram and/or MBTI message me and I’ll do my best to help you!

I've been trying to type myself since two years and I'm terrible at it. At least know I'm sure my mbti is ENTP (with high Fe). I think it's pribably 3, 7, 8 or maybe 5, 9 or 1. I think 4, 2 or 6 is unlikely, but anything is possible, I'm really lost in this thing.

Type 1:

At first I didn't think I was a perfectionist, but then all my friends and my psychologyst started to say I am and I thought about it and I probably am. I just feel like I'm not good enough in anything to call myself a perfectionist. I'm the type of person who need 200g of rice for a recipe, then goes it the shop and thinks "Am I 100% sure 2 kg of rice is enough and I shouldn't buy 3?". The same time, I never plan anything beforehand and I just go with the flow, also I love change and I'm flexible, I just really hate when I do something and it's not perfect.

Strengths: I'm honest, improvement-oriented but I wouldn't say responsible, because half of the time if someone tells me to do something I forget

Problems: I'm overly critical, yes (if someone isn't effective enough in something I get impatient very quickly (I won't lash out, but I get annoyed), I'm not resentful (I used to be as a teen, but now I just look differently at people and also I'm better and communicating) and I'm definitely adaptable.

Type 2:

I'm compassionate mostly and I'm also empathetic but I won't put more energy into helping people than I feel comfortable with. For example I've got a lot of friends with mental issues and I'll listen to them and give them advice but I've got very strong bpundaries in this area. Also, I believe that inner fights have to be fought alone. I can help, but they are the ones who have to put in the work to get better, I can't do it for them. Also I empathise way more than I sympathise.

Strenghts: I would say I'm caring, popular and a communicator to some degree, yes, but I definitely have areas to grow.

Problems: I'm sometimes naive, but most times I wouldn't say that and I'm definitely not dependent (in fact I never accept help from anyone)

Type 3:

This definitely fits me, I think that most of the time when I'm a perfectionist/high achiever it's to meet the expectation of others or my own expectations to myself, but still, I'm always comparing myself to others. Also, I' very lazy when other people aren't around (for example when someone comes to visit everything is perfectly clean and organised, but if not, I'll just throw the trash on the ground and never walk it to the trashcan.

Strengths/weaknessess: I'm definitley successfull, energetic, high achiever, overworked, impatient and competitive.

Type 4:

I wouldn't say I've got a lot of emotional depth, but I'm good at art/writing and I love symbolism and people say I'm very good at depicting society.

Strengths/weaknessess: These don't match at all.

Type 5:

I definitely love to accumulate knowledge (altough I'm not an expert at anything, I just love to understand how everything works). People usually think I'm a very open person, because I can talk easily about my past, what struggles I had, how I solved it, what I think about life, ethics, etc. and basically I don't keep a lot of secrets about my life but I also have a very private side of me. For example if I'm starting a project I don't like to share it with people and also if someone asks to many questions about my day I get annoyed.

Strengths/weaknessess: Yep, I'm perceptive and self-reliant, I wouldn't say I'm scholarly (I just know a lot of random fun facts). I'm sometimes isolated, and I wouldn't say I'm overly emotional or stingy.

Type 6:

I'm loyal and protective, but I don't follow rules. I am also oscillate sometimes between scepticism and believing in stuff. Still, I don't feel like this type is my best match.

Strengths/weaknessess: They do match too, I'm loyal, courageous, attentive to peoples problem and can be suiuspicious.

Type 7:

I'm definitely very sponatenous and I love changing things. I don't care about what people think ahout me (Which seems contradictory to that I always want to meet their expectations, but I care about being the best worker for example, but I don't care if peole think I'm stupid, etc. I only care about measurable things.) For example, I'm always on the go, I usually travel to at least 4 differerent cities a week. Also, I read the book "Nine sapiens" where I related to it very well, where they said type 7 has the "wanderer gene" and they are supposed to bring new blood to the tribe. (I often befriend people I met at random places and then they become part of the friend group.)

Type 8:

My family thinks this is the type I fit most. I can definitely be very intense if I want something or somebody oversteps a boundary, but I'm usually very friendly. I also always stand up if I see injustice.

Strengths: I can be enthusiastic, generous and powerful

Problems: I think I'm rarely excessive, angry or dominating. I mean, I'm usually a peacegull person and eventough I can be intense, I'm very good at making peace after it.

Type 9:

I can definitely see all viewpoints, people always say I never judge and I also think it's true. I also have good gut feelings and I do seek harmony most of the time. Also if someone aks me for advice I switch into a calm, wise mode. I think I'm quite wise and I though it wasn't noticable but then people started telling me a lot that I'm a very wise and mature person. It's kind of ambivalent, because I'm also very energetic and I love to do dares and enjoy life. Sometimes people say I switch often between acting 8 and 80 years old.

Strengths: Most of the time I'm balanced, accepting and harmonious (but I'm definietly and extrovert and have high levels of energy)

Problems: I'm very stubborn sometimes, I can be ambivelant and I'm conflict avoidant (up until a point).

• Jumper ENFJ (Se & Ni switched)

Positive

• Persistent/Determination
• Creative
• Carefree
• Goal-oriented
• Active
• Compassionate
• Always sees the best in others
• Open-minded

Negative

• Gets mad easily
• Apologetic
• Weird
• Overuses Demon function
• Competitive

People he relates to

• Anakin Skywalker (ESFP 6w7)
• Patrick Bateman (ENTJ 3w4)
• John F. Kennedy (ESFP 7w8)
• Theodore Roosevelt (ESTP 8w7)
• Chico (ESTP 9w8)
• Jordan Barrett (ESFP 2w3)
• Arnold Schwarzenegger (ENTJ 3w2)
• Obi Wan Kenobi (INFJ 6w5)

I’ve always considered my brother to be an ENTP, until he actually took a cognitive functions test. I’m quite confused about these people he relates to, as their MBTIs and Enneagrams are totally different from eachother and it’s not very plausible having my brother relate to them. But whatever he says 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Hello! I have loved the Enneagram for years but have always had trouble typing myself.... I have a really hard time describing myself, but here goes, I suppose. Though as a forewarning of sorts, I am professionally diagnosed with Level 1 ASD, GAD, and PTSD, plus suspecting some other things. The PTSD is, in short, due to being abused as a child by my father. >!He was very authoritarian. If my grades were "too low" (for example, 90s), he'd mock me. He would mock my friends in front of me. If I messed up or pissed him off, I was getting beat up and choked out. At the same time, he'd often flaunt my achievements to people. I was a trophy child and a punching bag. My parents divorced when I was around 12.!<

Ever since I was a young child, I have wanted to be a mortician. Once I finish up high school (in my senior year!) I plan on attending mortuary school. I have thought of other things, but nothing sounds as fulfilling as working in a funeral home. There are lots of reasons! I hate socializing with large groups of people. I know I would dread corporate or anything involving people, really. I feel good knowing I'll have few co-workers. I think death is a beautiful thing, it connects everyone and everything, and having the honor to take care of the dead is important to me. Plus, death is one of my special interests.

My therapist says I have a very "mature acceptance" (his exact words) of life. Needless to say, I have had a very rough life, and I sort of have this "it is what it is" attitude about lots of things. You cannot change the past or other people. When I told him my grandfather was dying, he asked how it made me feel, and I simply said "sad, I guess, but he's old. It was going to happen soon anyways and there's no point in mourning the living". I think that's probably the best example of what he calls my "mature acceptance"? In general, adults have always praised me for being very mature and I have found talking to adults easier than my peers.

I guess I should talk about my relationships with other people.... for me, it fluctuates a lot. Like, a lot. I really want a life partner and no one else. I do not think other people are that important. At the same time, I really want praise and attention from everyone, even if I do not value them. Being judged is horrible. Unless I deem that person as stupid. The same goes for authority figures. If they respect me, I'll respect them. But if I think they're stupid or wrong, depending on the situation, I'll push back. I tend to do this more with my parents than teachers (when at physical school), as I fear punishment from school officials more, for some reason. At the end of the day though, I really just want to love someone forever and for us to understand each other, even if no one else does.

I am kind of obsessed with having a consistent personality and image, but am generally unable of keeping one. It really bothers me. I mostly want to be seen as a good person, even though I do not think I am one. I largely dislike most people and could not care less about some of my own friends sometimes. Unfortunately, I just tend to view other people as reality tv segments. I love listening to drama but rarely am I ever involved. I'm more of an observer and was not even the center of attention at my own birthday party. At the same time, I get insanely jealous of people who get more attention than me. But only when I want attention, because otherwise I hate it. I once complained to my sibling that no one likes the real me and that I barely have any friends, to which they said "it's because you don't share anything with people, despite how much you overshare", which I think is incredibly true.

That being said, one thing people compliment me on a lot is how attentive I am. If I am close to a person, I remember lots of little things about them. People get shocked when I remember if their phones are on light or dark mode, but to me, that's just the kind of thing I remember. One of my friends once said that I notice things about her that most people do not. That same friend once said I am very easy to talk to and despite the fact that she rarely feels relaxed, she feels relaxed when talking to me. My other friend has said I have the soul of a jam filled biscuit, and another has said I seem very nice on the outside, but once you get to know me, I'm a huge menace. I tend to annoy people, both on purpose and not. If it's on purpose, it's either to piss off people I do not like or to play around with those close to me. My sibling once said I am "confusing and vague".

In terms of personality, as I mentioned, it tends to fluctuate. I often feel like there is no "real me". I feel as though I am pretty introverted. I currently do school online and do not really need much social interaction. I can go days without talking to anyone who is not my family. If I really need someone to talk to, I can easily talk to myself or my stuffed animals. I have some friends, as mentioned, but most of them are internet friends. I have lots of interests I indulge in often. I tend to get pretty bored though, and I often just end up napping or laying around desperately wanting to do something entertaining. I find exercise exhilarating but often lack the motivation to actually do it. My family says my emotions are obvious on my face! Even if I am not aware of it. In general, I am actually pretty decent at socializing, I just hate it. I mess up a lot due to autism, but most people think I'm weird but friendly. When I was still in physical school, I was the type of person to take on all the work in group projects because it needs to be done a certain way. I'll give out my notes answers if I like the person enough. I have been told I come across as very condescending. I do tend to be pretty cryptic and vague, even if I do not mean to be.

Sometimes I feel very in touch with my emotions and sometimes I am very out of touch with them. As I stated before, I tend to get bored and desperately want to feel something. Other times I get so overcome with emotion I cannot control my body. When I have a burst of emotion, I tend to go a bit extreme with my stimming. I pace, roll around the floor, purposefully run into walls, go on long runs, that kind of thing. When I get embarrassed or full of anxiety or shame, I tend to shake uncontrollably and hide under my covers. When stressed, I tend to get frustrated and have to take time to cool down. I am honestly a huge hypocrite. I get mad when people do certain things but expect others to be fine when I do the same thing. I tend to say things without thinking about if I actually believe that, and later realize I was completely lying and am unsure of what I actually think. 

Typically, I need as much information as possible before making a decision or forming an actual opinion on something. I feel like I see things in a very nuanced way. There are, of course, exceptions. If there are people I do not like, there is no nuance at all. I hate them. No redemption in my eyes.

I am not all too sure what I am afraid of, in particular. As stated before, I do hate being judged. It really bothers me when people mock my behavior and the way I present myself. I want to be loved and accepted wholeheartedly, ugly parts especially. I want to bear my heart for someone and for them to not flinch. The idea of being judged for myself is really scary. I get scared of horrible things happening to the few people I care about. I often imagine them dying if they do not respond in a timely manner. I am also very afraid of cars and horses, though I am trying to work on the car one.

In terms of interests, as mentioned before, I love death. I also have a lifelong special interest in theatre. Sometimes listening to musicals is the only way I can process and experience emotion. I have been an actor, runner, props master, playwright, and a videographer! I like the arts a lot in general and most of my interests are media based (anime, gacha games, classic lit, visual kei music, video/music projects, that sort of thing). My favorite thing is picking apart all the symbolism in my favorite things. I love rewatching things to find foreshadowing or new details that I did not notice the first time. I get really passionate and heated about my interests and can discuss them for hours.

I have pretty strict routines, but I think that is more of an autism thing for me. I get really upset when someone messes up my routines or plans I had in my head, even if I did not express them to that person. At the same time, I have trouble actually keeping organized. My room is a mess. As long as I know where everything is, I'm good. Besides, cleaning is too much of a chore to me. Though sometimes I go crazy and clean the bathroom. But never my room.

I have lots of thoughts on the world, most that sound pretty edgy. It tends to shift rapidly between hating everyone and thinking the world is horrible and that there is no hope whatsoever to “the point is that things aren’t beautiful all on their own, beautiful comes from reflection, beautiful takes a person who makes a connection. You know what I mean? For the beautiful to happen the beautiful has got to be seen” (a quote from Beautiful from Ordinary Days, a great musical).

I hope this is not too much or too little! Or if it is too all over the place.... I tend to be like that.

I've taken some tests and read a few books, and the result has consistently been 5w4. It's also how people more knowledgeable than me in this field have described me. However, I read somewhere that it's the rarest Enneagram type and, unsurprisingly, the one people most often misidentify with. So, if anyone here is genuinely interested in this subject, I’d appreciate some guidance.

Let me briefly describe my perspective, my outlook on the world. I'm a young woman, but I’ve always felt two contrasting parts coexisting within me, sharply distinct and often at odds with each other. You could say my personality is built on contradictions: I’m very young and can find joy in the simplest things like a child would; yet at the same time, I believe I possess a wisdom and awareness beyond my years (maybe even beyond my current life). This is also reflected in my appearance: I look both very young and mature at the same time. I’m neither introverted nor extroverted. I adapt to situations. I can take the lead and be the life of the party when I'm surrounded by people I trust, yet solitude is a fundamental necessity for me. Even among others, I always feel alone, though no one would suspect it. It would take a very discerning eye to see through me. I’m highly cerebral and rational, yet my emotions can be suddenly intense and overwhelming. Many have told me that my greatest challenge in life is reconciling my head with my heart. I tend to rationalize my feelings, to describe them and connect them to abstract ideas, yet at the same time, I experience them so profoundly that I often feel distinctly separated from most of the people I know—because they don't seem to feel as deeply as I do.

People describe me as possessing a meticulous intelligence. I analyze everything, but my way of analyzing doesn’t follow standard logical processes. My thinking is radical; it integrates all of my experiences: it’s not just a driving force in my life, it is my life. It shapes how I move, how I relate to others. I dream of working in the social sciences. I find joy in recognizing patterns, tracing cause-effect relationships, and discovering recurring systems in the world. Often, when I discover new things alone in my room, I end up crying from happiness—it's the joy of seeing that the world makes sense and knowing I have the ability to understand it. I’m empathetic; I understand others well, probably due to this passion. Generally, I find people’s actions quite predictable. Sometimes it feels like I can read through them from their smallest gestures. I also tend to challenge them at their core; I’m often the reason for crises in others. I always tell the truth to those I love, believing that, no matter how painful, it’s the only catalyst for growth. I’m also highly creative, in the simplest sense: I’ve been playing instruments and composing music since I was young, despite never formally studying it. It’s a significant part of my life. I also draw. I used to write a lot (everyone thought I would become a writer—I think I lack the spontaneity for it). I believe I bring this creativity into the way I think about things, into my studies and decisions. I've always been fascinated by esoteric systems and philosophy. I am, I suppose, a spiritual person. Ultimately, the purpose of my life could be summarized as: I want to become myself, whatever it takes to achieve that.

When it comes to relationships, I have trust issues. I don’t open up easily. I struggle to talk about how I feel and to be vulnerable. Yet, when I finally reach that point, I enjoy it; I’m not ashamed—it feels precious. But it takes time. I tend to take the lead in relationships. For me, they are profound experiences of growth, and I’ve always lived them like storms: pivotal foundations of my life. I’ve had very few relationships, but they’ve been intensely deep. Casual dating doesn’t exist in my world. Everything leads to transformation.

One of my biggest challenges is turning everything in my mind into action. I’m incredibly self-destructive. I sabotage myself because I'm afraid to fully confront the potential I feel within me; I know that once I do, life will be an uphill battle, and I’m scared to make the choice to start that journey. I feel like a beautiful ship docked for repairs, afraid to set sail. In a way, I know what's ahead, and it’s so immense that it terrifies me. So I delay. I waste time, deliberately. I dream of a life of effort, seriousness, and impeccability—a life where I step outside of myself, beyond everything I know and think I know, to truly discover who I am.

Hello! I have absolutely no idea what my type is anymore and I don't know how to find it. Maybe you guys can figure me out cause I have no clue. I've hopped around from so4, then to sp6, then sp9, then sp2 and then back to so4.

I hope this isn't too much, but I completed two questionnaires assessing me and stuff. One is long and the other is shorter. Feel free to just read the short one if you want. If you're bored af and want to hear me yap and info dump, then read the long one lol. Or read them both if you have nothing better to do 🥲

I made them all Aesthetic and stuff so It would look nicer to read 👍

Short Questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H9Gbuggk431lo4ceYbh1e0LbJOL2lFdHWQV9OU6-i-o/edit?usp=drivesdk

Long Questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/document/d/121QC-aUj0yyFnBipoBBF0G1BrZayhUE_F6gbkbTxIZI/edit?usp=drivesdk

Hello! Can you help me type myself? It's probably a year or so since I got into Enneagram, and I still can't determine what my core, fix, and last are. I'm sure that I fall into the 469 group tho. The problem is that I relate to these types heavily and equally, partly because trauma makes things fuzzy. But I've come a long way into self-reflection, so I'll try to be honest as possible.

I'll be using this questionnaire from personalitycafe:

^(Main Questions)

^(1. What drives you in life? What do you look for?)
^(2. What do you hope to accomplish in your life?)
^(3. What do you hope to avoid doing or being? What values are important to you?)
^(4. What are your biggest fears (not including phobias? Why?))
^(5. How do you want others to see you? How do you see yourself?)
^(6. What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?)
^(7. Describe how you experience each of: a anger; b shame; c) anxiety.)
^(8. Describe how you respond to each of: a stress; b unexpected change; c) conflict.)
^(9. Describe your orientation to: a authority; b power. How do you respond to these?)
^(10. What is your overall outlook on life and humanity?)

I'm (F25) also an INFP and my temperament is Melancholic-Phlegmatic. I have thoughts about my possible enneagram, but I'm interested on what you think!

I'll just link a doc because I'm afraid it's too long for a post. Hope my answers help! I'd be grateful if you can help me with not just my type, but also my wing, tritype, and instinct! Tysm ♥

We used to be friends (I… think.) I remember that I became friends with her and this other girl when I was in ninth grade (they would have been in tenth.) They walked up to me in Chemistry when I had no one to work with (they were with a guy who I promise will become more relevant later on.) I think they felt bad. I remember having the impression that this girl was nice and smart.

I remember that her grades were low, even though she was not “dumb.” She had a C in Chemistry because she did not do the homework, and yet received high scores on the exams. I don’t remember how low her GPA was, but I think that it was below a 3.0. Over quarantine, she did not fare much better academically - I remember she almost received a “No Pass” (an F) in AP English as a junior, and was doing badly enough overall in her chosen AP courses to a point wherein she once admitted she was considering not going to college.

She was average looking (I think most people would agree on this, if they were to assess her appearance objectively.) She was not “thin” (I last saw her a year ago, and I remember deciding that she is probably technically somewhat overweight even though she was on the swim team.) She was Hispanic, but white passing (quite literally looked white.) She’d had more than one boyfriend, but mentioned over quarantine that the only guys who asked her out were black (this is somewhat odd, since the city we attended high school in is actually mainly white and Asian in terms of racial demographics.) She seemed to be aware of the fact that her ex boyfriends dealt with internalized racism (she suggested that one of them had wanted her because they thought she was white.) She’d had multiple people who crushed on her. She did not seem to know why black males were the only ones who asked her out. In her senior year, she started dating this 1/2 black 1/2 white boy who wasn't attractive to me (they broke up in Feb 2024, not long after someone cyberbullied her for a second time.) She had 1 boyfriend in 8th grade and another in 9th grade.

Her old social media account was private, and she had more followers than she does people she follows back (though she has never had a lot of followers, nor was she immediately familiar with grade wide gossip, which is partly why I can’t help but wonder what ever made her think that anyone in her class “cared” about her. I remember that she did seem social enough later on in PE, but their grade - Class of 2022, I mean - actually did have specific students who were well-known and cared about. She was not one of them. She has 400-something followers, and follows 200-something people back. The most popular people I’ve ever known had more followers than that.) She actually created a new one this year (deleted the older one) and seems more particular about who she lets into it (has a little over 70 followers, and follows the exact same amount of people back.) She also noticeably doesn't show her face in her new profile picture, likely because when she was cyberbullied some months ago, they criticized her appearance and invited others to join in.

Over quarantine, she gave me advice a lot. I remember that she kind of gave off maternal vibes, I don’t know. She grew tired of doing so but did not tell me this directly (she made a post where she suggested that she’d cut a guy off or something - blocked them maybe, I don’t remember - because they tended to ask her for things yet didn’t really ask her how her day was.) I asked if I was one of the people who was doing this, she was honest and admitted she hadn’t known he to tell me. I started asking her how her day was afterward.

I remember that on her private spam account, she tended to sound like she regretted things.

In May 2021, my “friendship” with her and the other girl ended. Basically, the guy who was mentioned above grew defensive after I asked him if he considered himself to be a co founder of the organization we were in (she had advised when I complained about this in our group chat that I do so, and gave me his phone number.) He insulted me. I felt suicidal and posted about this on my private spam account.

Two weeks later, she “argued his side” when this was brought up again even though two friends of his within the organization had already done so (and even though a teacher agreed that his tone was disrespectful - said teacher suggested org members did not have good morals.) Long story short, she and the other girl blocked me after I made a spam post saying I felt that my side in a conflict was not understood by some (the other girl sent a long message basically saying something about how I was making the described girl “look bad.”) I was actually told by someone when I Complained about the situation that no one in their class “cared” about them (this meant that they were not popular.) The other girl said they were on the guy’s “side” (members of the organization had declared that “sides would be taken” if we had a meeting about the guy’s comments.) The guy quit the organization five months later, which really made all of it pointless. I continued to see her around with the guy, who is likely either an ESFJ or ESFP (a peer of theirs suggested that the guy became meaner over quarantine. I can’t help but wonder if maybe this girl did, too.) I remember she suggested that I “call a lot of things that aren’t racist racist” in the guy’s favor (though if I am being reasonable, the guy suggesting that me providing my voice as a black person after the George Floyd murder was irrelevant as other black leaders spoke, is something that I do indeed feel to have been performative activism.) She sent our other “friend” screenshots of the conversation (though I really don’t see how this proved to be helpful.)

When she was a senior, I had PE with her. I realized then that she was fake. I had never realized it before. She had a look on her face like she recognized me when she switched into the class for second semester. When I say that she is fake, what I mean is that she once made an “ouch” face when I missed the ball - like one of those faces someone makes when they are pretending to be concerned about you or about something or the kind of reaction someone has because they’re supposed to have it. And on the last day - on her last day - she tried to talk to me a bit when I was sitting down even though she blocked my new private spam account not terribly long before (or didn’t just like act like she couldn’t talk to me I remember I ignored her a bit I don’t know how to explain it it wasn’t like a “let’s reconcile’ type thing it was just her being fake.)

I remember that she simply looked amused in her senior yr when I was complaining about black males to my Asian female friend. I also remember that when she was a senior, I had the impression that she thought herself to be more physically attractive than she actually is (it was a vibe.) It’s something I judged her for, as I didn’t see why she gave off that vibe (not above average in… anything, really. Arguably intelligent, but I question that now, as I feel like someone who was truly sharp would be doing something with themselves post high school.)

She and the guy she defended no longer follow each other on social media. They seemingly fell out at some point after 12th grade. Her profile caption when dating her most recent ex was “I’d really rather not be approached tbh.”

She created a LinkedIn profile maybe one-three months ago wherein she explicitly wrote "Unemployed" under the employment section, and additionally didn't include the name of a college (she'd once said in high school, during her junior year, that she was thinking she wouldn't attend college due to her low grades. This still surprised me, though. I'd thought she would change her mind and start taking community college courses. In fact, I'd expected her to end up doing so immediately out of high school.) She deleted the profile not long afterward. She has been out of high school now for two years. Her current caption on her brand new account (less than 100 followers, follows the exact same number of people back) is “I would send you a bouquet of newly sharpened pencils if I knew your name and address” but about a day before that it was “popcorn princess.” I have the impression that she is a bit of a romantic (had “dreaming of a life rich with love” as her caption for a bit after her most recent breakup) but it seems that like most people, her romantic relationships haven’t gone as she hoped. The vibe I get from her is that she has perhaps spent the past two years focused on her ex boyfriend (when they dated) and watching movies, but I could be wrong.

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because I am... hahaha... definitely a type 4, but I don't understand the wings and sx/so/whatever the heck and also the other 3 digit number?? From the test I took it seems my next highest would be 2 or 6, although 6 does not resonate much with me. Are those possible wings? I'm also infp, not sure if that helps.

recommendations for YT videos to explain would also be helpful!! ty in advance!!

also, random note, when I looked up type 4 the first time I was like "hold up did this test just tell me I have a personality disorder?" LOL

Hello everyone,

I'm 24 years old and have been studying the enneagram for 6 years now and was pretty sure that I’m a 5w4 sx/sp but I realised this summer that I’m not this type. I have AUDHS and my whole school years I was mobbed and depressed. The more I heal and learn my real self behind the mask the more I know that I have not the motivation of a 5. I’m not sure if it is type 8 or type 1. I can see both in my life and they hurt equally. My mum describes that in my childhood that I have on- and off-phases, something I can see nowadays too. My 10 years older brother would probably name it Jekyll and Hyde. In my on-phase I’m friendly, ethical and helpful. In my off-phase I’m moody, stubborn and hide from the world. Also in my childhood I had severe tantrums (now I would name them meltdowns). Since I’m 15 I have bottled my rage and negative feelings inside of me. My stepdad says I’m a teakettle, but he has never experienced one of my meltdowns personally. In my family I was known as mum's little helper. Most of my childhood I was in the kitchen and helped her cooking and baking, now the kitchen is my terrain and my mum is the helper. I love helping others. When I’m not in the kitchen, I read or hike with my dog (every day we walk at least 15km). My main problem is that I procrastinate because it's never good enough and I was also very slow in school (not with the intellectual side). Every evening my mum and I caught up on what I had not accomplished on school tasks. It was exhausting and draining for me. I flee when I have problems and ghost people when I have problems with them. Awful but it's simpler for me than explaining my negative feelings. Most often I don’t know them exactly, only that something is off and sometimes like half a year later I could describe them. I’m a perfectionist and know-it-all, something my siblings mocked me for, they called me an ice princess. In my family I’m  now the problem solver. All with a problem come to me and often even strangers on the street tell me her story and problems. My dad and stepdad find that really funny. They are grinning when I’m late because they know exactly that the only reason I’m late is that somebody has told me about her life and the problems in it. I’m very autonomous and hate when somebody bosses me around or calls me lazy. My childhood was also very chaotic and loud. I have always bull headed my way even when the rest of the family and world was against it. What do you think?

PS: Sorry for my bad english

1. What’s your biggest fear? Not reaching my goals. Living a life which I couldn't get what I wanted.

2. What’s your biggest desire? Definitely leaving earth and visiting other planets mostly Mars.

3. What are you ‘’the best’’ at? Well people think I'm a good advisor, people in my life usually ask for my help in dealing with their problems. I don't know why they think I'm the person to talk to but it happens. Nevertheless I personally think I'm best at planning  even though sometimes I get frustrated when it doesn't come to fruition.

4. How do you see yourself right now? I'm in my mid 20s, and i feel like i ajve I'm underachieved so far in my life. Somethings that I wanted to be doing now when I was young didn’t happen. I think I have a very bad luck.

5. How do you see yourself 5 years from now? Hopefully closer to my goals and be financially better.

6. How do you express yourself? I tend to have a friendly face which sometimes can be monotonous. when I'm talking to people in topics I enjoy I become very energetic and talk a lot.

7. How do you feel about those near you (family, friends)? I give a lot of importance to family, friends not that much. Friends come and go, family is always there.

For me friends are not really important, but I do enjoy being around some of them. 8. How do you feel about strangers? I love meeting new people even though i think I'm socially introverted. 9. How do you view change/uncertainty? Change and uncertainty are way different.  I like change, I tend to be very impulsive in doing thing sometimes so I kind of like the unexpected. For example I don't like to plan to have fun and go trips, usually the idea comes to my head and I just do it. While I don't like uncertainty. I hate the feeling when you are waiting for something and it is uncertain. 10. How do you make decisions? Most times I'm guided by my head when making decisions and always go for the logical route. But sometimes my desire for somethings can alter my decisions. 11. How do you solve logical problems? Using my head LOL. 12. How do you deal with your emotions? I don't about this, emotions come to me very strongly and i dont know how to deal with it except distracting myself. 13. What drives you in life? What do you look for?  Purposes, without having a perosnal purpose or goals i think of life as meaningless. 14. How do you want others to see you? How do you see yourself? Cool, intellectual and friendly I think. And I see myself as helpful, friendly and driven 15. Describe how you experience each of: a) Anger; b) Shame; c) Anxiety a) I used to be an angry kid when I was young taking everything personally but now I'm less angrier. When I'm angry I feel like I don't have control of myself, It is like I'm possessed. b) Shame is definitely something I avoid a lot. It is degrading and not a good feeling to have. c) I do have a lot of anxiety about the future and it's outcomes. I tend to overworry sometimes.

Part of the reason as to why I'm sometimes not so sure that I'm a 6w5 is because deep down inside, whenever the going gets rough, I find that I just want to escape and have fun. I'm 19 1/2, and am more confident than I used to be that I am a 6 as opposed to... well, some completely different type. I've actually known about enneagram (and MBTI) since I was 11.

I feel like I should be more mature than I actually am. It's weird because I've worked around other adults for a year and I am actually quite cognizant of the fact that I myself am an adult who is getting older and needs to figure out what she wants to do with her life. I do work but honestly recently realized that I am not as aware of certain safety precautions as I should be when babysitting, in spite of the fact that I have CPR/First Aid and have worked in childcare for a year or so (no one got hurt on my watch while babysitting, though.) I'm in a weird spot wherein I am definitely more mature than I was a year ago, but at the same time it feels like that much time hasn't passed. Maybe I'd feel differently if I'd attended university straight out of high school instead of continuing to live at home. I've had intrusive thoughts throughout today about wondering what it might feel like to go out clubbing. I don't tend to, and have spent most of my time since I graduated from high school working and taking community college courses (with a lack of direction, sadly. I don't know what my associates will be in.)

This is partly, I think, my reaction to unresolved trauma that primarily took place between the ages of 14-16. So, I think that in general, I probably rely on my 5 wing more. But I'm noticing that whenever I'm really depressed or - not even necessarily depressed, just not happy about the way things are going for me - I just find that I find myself fantasizing about doing something fun. I've more recently become aware of how young I actually am, as a 19 year old. In middle school, I was a very serious person and eager to grow up. Now that I'm getting older, I realize that I am perfectly capable of holding down a job and obtaining an education, but some part of me when the going gets rough finds that I just want to be a kid again. I want to go outside and jump on a trampoline. I want to go to the park and get on the swings. Right now things should be exciting but they don't feel stable just yet, and I'm longing for a sense of stability and normalcy as someone who has seen the mental health of every immediate family member I have decline immensely within the past 7 or so years. The place my mind goes to in these times makes me wonder if I am perhaps really actually a 6w7, or have wings that are more balanced than I thought.

I have been unhappy recently due to issues with my *former* job and realizing that I am perhaps not as "prepared" to babysit as I should be. I don't tend to bring a first aid kit anymore, though I must note that as someone who has worked with children for a little over a year, they become hurt less often than you may expect. I babysat Thurs and Fri (two kiddos on the spectrum.) I had a great time with them. No one got hurt. But there were two situations wherein it was possible - one where I did not know how to buckle the swing for the LO who has been 2 for about a month, and rocked them in it gently while standing in front of them until it looked like the director was free to answer my inquiry about it. I now know how to buckle it. And then yesterday, I got into the trampoline they have in their backyard with the kiddos to jump with them, and didn't realize immediately that it would be most ideal to zip it up (kind parent mentioned it directly.) They have a lovely family and actually suggested that if I am interested and me becoming a BT for the kiddos doesn't work out, they'd like for me to nanny for them starting in March 2025 as that is when their full time nanny will move back to her home country. I felt some anxiety over the safety concerns, but have tried to remedy this by acknowledging that - especially as a young person (19) - I can absolutely take more safety courses, and will learn everything I need to know! I know I need to buy new bandaids. I have a new job that I actually technically got through networking (parents at old job recommended me) but am waiting to be assigned clients.

I have depression and anxiety, which is likely good to mention/point out. Something that has changed for me is that, in spite of the depression, I actually don't want to end my life anymore. 3-4 years ago, I was depressed enough to a point wherein even though I never made a direct attempt, I did. Something about these last two years has really helped me realize that life is worth living. Whether working with children is a good fit for me or not, I think having the opportunity to work with littles gave me a new perspective on life. Children are so innocent, and people in general aren't very moral, but this doesn't mean that they are bad. There are people in this world who are empathetic, who seek to help. I'd like to believe now that I am older that it is possible to find a community and for me to help others.

I have pulled 2 of the 4 babysitting gigs I've had through Facebook, even though I understand that this is potentially dangerous. When I learned that, for unfair reasons, I will not be able to return to the school I used to work at (they didn't communicate this to me directly which is partly why I was so offended) I initially took the next day off and considered not responding at all to the people who responded to my Facebook post where I inquired about whether or not anyone needed a babysitter. I ended up responding on Wednesday. I decided, actually, to go back and work even though I had initially thought about taking self care days - so I ended up babysitting the two kiddos mentioned above.

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Probably core 3, unsure of subtype.
I do want to be seen as pretty and desired by all, even getting plastic surgery and an eating disorder for this - this is also due to being bullied for being ugly for years as a kid and being rejected by other kids, made me feel worthless. I don't want to commit to one person, as I want everyone to give me attention. I want people to rely on me, I like to be loud and seen in groups, I like to be a leader. But I am very insecure and awkward, so at a distance I am shy and meek, I hate my own weakness. I'd rather die than not be pretty. I want to be the best so I can be loved - get the highest grades, be the golden child, be the funniest/most entertaining friend. So I can have physical proof of my value. I do honestly think I am smarter than most people, and know what is better for them better than they do. I love leading, but can be too shy to lead in real life so lead online groups instead. I am very self critical compared to everyone I know.
Whilst I do believe I am more competent and capable than most people, I also feel deeply lonely and am consciously aware that I must be a bad person for thinking so highly of myself, as a result I hate myself at the same time and feel guilty when others think I am a good person. I am often a mentor in one on one friendships. I care a lot less for intimate romance than most people- I cringe so hard if a guy calls me baby or something like that, but get a high from perceiving myself through the eyes of the other "they must think i'm so cool, so smart, so unique" and by imagining what good things others think of me, i inflate my own ego and confirm to myself I am worthy. My natural sense of humour is a bit blunt and crude, a lot of my friends liked that and voiced it, as a result I felt a lot of pressure to be the "funny friend" - I was worried they'd stop finding me funny and felt a lot of pressure so left friend groups and abandoned them before they could abandon me. I dont care much about material possesions like nice cars or big house, I just want to be loved by as many people as possible (in my group, for example people in my communities or political subcultures) by a whole group or crowd. I want applause, and to be seen.
I used to think i was chameleonesque, but now Im not so sure. I think I have 2 personas which is either funny friend or mature/wise friend. I hate being so shy and insecure, I want to be brave and look powerful.
I want to portray a flawless image to others, I am cerebral and often called mature for my age. I love being loved most of all. I do care more about groups than individuals. I dont want to be pathetic, rather I want to be powerful and independent. I feel indebted when people do things for me and hate that feeling.
In the past, I would manipulate my image in romantic relationships consciously, trying to appear maternal/soft. but I left every single relationship in under 3 months, because I got sick of trying to keep up the act and hated said men getting too close to me. I think I am ugly deep down because society had told me so when I was young "the growing up ugly kid scar that never truly fades" but at the same time during the height of my eating disorder I knew I was conventionally attractive and loved that, imagining the value people gave me. But people also told me I was smart from a young age, and I do feel that I am intelligent compared to most people.
At the same time, I don't like romance irl. I want unconditional love from a partner badly, and daydream of it, but have avoidant attachment. When I have conquered someone, I just want to move on to the next person. This used to go for friends too.
I think i am fundamentally different to others in a good way but also a bad way, I know that thinking I am makes me a bad person which makes me feel guilty and defective. I worry about being sociopathic/narcissistic.
I am obsessed with my reputation - in any argument i try to remain calm collective and logical so that the other person can embarrass themselves to the collective and I can come out on top. If someone has something I want, I hate the feeling that they might be fundamentally better than me, so i go after said thing to make sure everyone knows that i am actually the best.

Here is my take:

Mrs. Garrett: 1w2 or 2w1 Blair: 3w4 Jo: 8w9 or 6w5 Tootie: 6w7 or 7w6 Natalie: 5w6

I honestly dont know much about enneagram types but i thought i should check them out and see what fits my results And nothing fits me..

18yo F ISFP

Hello, this is going to be a somewhat complicated case, if you like challenges and you deem yourself very knowledgable about enneagrams, feel free to take this over and let me know your thoughts.

this is not a "rant", this is an honest depiction of someone with a lot of trauma trying to learn who they are, I figured since I don't know too much about enneagram, I'd ask here and see what you come up with.

Where the confusion comes from:

MBTI is ENTJ, not sure if im a 3 or 8 or 6, although I vehemently do not like how 3s are, I've had a 3w4 friend and that says it all, I wouldn't say im vain or trying to look a certain way, i just dont see the point in looking a certain way to others, especially in the long run. Take me how i am as long as theres no damage between us lol

I relate a LOT to 8s, their upbringing, how they deal with it, but it is too extreme, I feel like enneagrams/mbti tend to overexaggerate how types act, it almost make them sound like complete monsters, which I know are not (for the most part?).

And 6 well, I had an unhealthy 6 in my life, trying to get rid of the shit she instilled in me, more to read down below.

Grab a cup of tea, relax, and read as much as you can.

How old are you? What's your gender? Give us a general description of yourself.

female, almost 23, just fled an abusive environment, now married to an infj, living abroad, i did it all myself, couldn't be more proud. I'm calm, funny, very animated, but also easily riled up at certain situations. I tend to control my emotions, how I react and what I feel most of the time.

Everything that I do in life has a common denominator: will this benefit me in the long run or not? Is this efficient or a waste of time?

• Is there a medical diagnosis that may impact your mental stability somehow?

I was recently diagnosed with severe PTSD and anxiety related trauma, I never even suspected that until a few months before by my therapist.

• Describe your upbringing. Did it have any kind of religious or structured influence? How did you respond to it?

This is going to be long, I'll leave a TDLR if you don't want to bother reading it, but if you're someone who survived abusive parents, you could possibly relate to this:

I have PTSD, I have been fearful growing up of getting harmed

(or graped, being a single child that's a girl in a conservative third world country has its own damages).

I do everything in my power to avoid this.

My mother, a raging religious ISFJ who I think is a super unhealthy 6 instilled this in me growing up, alongside my grandma, they went to great lengths as to VIVIDLY depict the very graphic details of abuse as a 5 year old, it did not stop even when I hit puberty at 9, it just got worse...

I had no control over my life, I had no control over anything, they had to decide everything for me, even at my own demise.

I saw it, but I couldn't do anything about it being a child and not knowing anybody or anything else, being violent or rebellious was out of the question because they kept me physically weak, ill, and locked up in a room for months/years without human contact or even support, they didn't even take me to the doctor when I was bleeding for 2 weeks straight lol, they never let me see my dad's side of the family and they always painted him as the bad guy.

I barely had access to decent food, my grandma (the evil one in the entire story) would feed me her scraps and then complain if I asked my mom for food. Then she'd lash out saying "I just fed you! Wtf are you hungry for?!" I grew up extremely underweight lol, had a bad relationship with food, I thought food tasted bad and I didn't like eating it.

The water was contaminated because we lived in an apartment where the sewers were always bursting, so it stinks most of the time.

I had to endure my mom's heavy shit growing up, and my mom's emotional weight because she used me as an emotional punching bag and as a therapist (I was a child?), I did not have a say in mine, it did not matter what I felt.

She'd come home from work, beat me up for no reason, and then leave me be. I was also her physical punching bag at times, this happened between 7 and 11 years of age.

This continued to happen for 20 years, I'm almost 23 now, and the only way I could escape was to get my job ( I faced relentless opposition from my mother in fear of my own "safety", like wtf?) and I started my position, in a 3rd world country, with 2500$ a month, I was still in my first year of school (IT), that is almost unheard of. I'm learning to take pride of my achievements instead of brushing them off, so yes, this was insane for me to do.

Afterward (at the ripe age of 20-21), things got better because I had to shut her up with money, renovate her entire place, buy her a fridge and more appliances (we barely had anything), I even moved out of her place (we lived near the cemetery, 3 hours away from everything that's considered civilization) I rented alone, but she did not leave me alone, she had assigned her husband to watch me 24/7, she even lived with me and slept on the couch because she didn't want me to be alone.

This is why she was irrational about me living alone: the door is 3 locks secured, you can't even get into the building by yourself, someone else needs to leave you in, it was full of cameras in a decent neighborhood and the rent was too high for the people around there

I kept defying, pushing back, and pushing some more, I did the unthinkable, I wanted to assert my control over MY life, I even went further and fought her husband because he said something along the lines of "We will not leave you alone to be your own person until you get married under the wing of a man" lol, good luck with that.

I hate that my body reacts with panic and distress before my brain can. I do not outwardly show I'm scared unless it benefits me in that situation.

I do face all of my fears, I cannot let anything intimidate me, but my god is it so fucking debilitating when your body just goes into freeze mode when your mind is trying to make sense of what's happening.

I hate the panic attacks, I did not choose any of this bullshit, I do everything I can and even more to ensure I have complete control over my life and carry my weight and not let ANYBODY have a say in what I do for myself.

I am not a reactive person, I assess any situation I'm in and then make sound judgement, but challenged autonomy or control is what sets me off faster than the thunderlight.

I'm not in constate state of fear, but I struggle with letting go of a lot of things I have seen/heard/faced as a child, especially from my grandmother and mother ganging up on me almost every day and depicting how the world is a dangerous place for me and that I'm inherently weak because I was born with a vagina and how everyone will try to take advantage of me, in great, horrible, details, very graphic. That's what I have nightmares about it until today, shit gave me insomnia for years.

I only use the Fe facade to get through people and succeed in life. I understand that you need to work through people if you want to get ahead faster, and keep their guards low so that even if they try to cross you, you know where to strike. Otherwise I couldn't care less about anybody else really, let's say using people without hurting them is the best term, although if they deserve it, then harming them shouldn't be seen as immoral, ofc within boundaries, i'm not a reckless monster lol

Again, I do not seek to harm on purpose, I simply want to survive to be the achieve and get the best things for myself.

I couldn't care less about what others see me as, I couldn't give a fuck about what I even want. I genuinely do not care about what I feel most of the time, I just need to get shit done and move on

I need to do what I need to do.

I am extremely nihilistic, I don't see the joy of being alive, not that I mind it, and I'm currently in therapy for PTSD and Anxiety related trauma, but I don't think that'll change my outlook on life unless I somehow convince myself of a more positive outlook, which I believe could possibly come with time and the right environment.

I aspire to be as neutral, truthful, and unbiased as I possibly can, though I cannot defy our human nature and tendency to be biased.

The trauma goes deeper and deeper, I grew up without a father figure or even a father to begin with. He left me when I was a few days old because my mom did not let him see me or be close to me. After all, she was scared they'd "kidnap" me... now that I'm older, and I know her very well, this might have been an overreaction. (consulted with other family members, the Inf Ne ruined her life, shit is nuts).

My mother tends to repeat the same story, every single day, relentlessly, for decades. it's like a broken record, i'm not sure if it's the same for all isfjs, but it's enough to brainwash you.

I'm not exaggerating, the brainwashing was so bad I believed everything she told me growing up about me, my dad,life, and how the world works. (no shit she was my mother)

You cannot possibly blame a child for what their mother instilled in them.

I hate the fact my childhood was smothered by her, I did not get the chance to explore myself or to be my own person.

I didn't get the chance to have my own hobbies and interests.

I was only expected to be academically successful, which I was, but it was all in vain as that success didn't result in anything worthy.

She was happy I scored the highest grade in highschool but it felt more like she pressured me into doing it, knowing afterwards, its about the money u have to get into good colleges, not your academics.

The worst students in my class got into prestigious universities because of their parents, ofc I didn't, that hurt, but you dont owe life anything, you take from life what you want.

Now I'm a support engineer, I make a great living for myself, I'm only doing it for money (she's an ex programmer that's why she pushed me to be in the same school she studied at, the school is so fucking bad that I had to teach myself everything in order to get a job, but she couldn't grasp that her choices over my life were EXTREMELY bad.)

and I'm not sure what type I am. :) I'd hate to be a 6 like her,or an ISFJ like her, or anything like her. I am trying to stay as far away as I can.

TDLR: mother bad, grandma bad, i have ptsd, i dont know who i am, enneagram wisdom is needed. plz thnx

• What do you do as a job or as a career (if you have one)? Do you like it? Why or why not?

Support engineer, I don't like it, currently planning to study for business management and switch careers.

• If you had to spend an entire weekend by yourself, how would you feel? Would you feel lonely or refreshed?

Thats what I usually do, i feel nothing, but I tend to feel chronically lonely, I work most of the time and I do not get the chance to form friendships with other people lol

• What kinds of activities do you prefer? Do you like, and are you good at sports? Do you enjoy any other outdoor or indoor activities?

I like hiking sometimes

• How curious are you? Do you have more ideas then you can execute? What are your curiosities about? What are your ideas about - is it environmental or conceptual, and can you please elaborate?

How to get the most financial success, self improvement, striving to become healthy and have a great work/life balance and a life free of stress and financial worries

• Would you enjoy taking on a leadership position? Do you think you would be good at it? What would your leadership style be?

I'd be amazing since i have taken tremendous time studying how people work, how to cultivate positive reinforcement as a reward and how to make sure people are well taken care of in your department.

People are human beings and if you want them to do what you want, there needs to be a shared goal.

I never found dictatorship as efficient as they think it is, its quite the opposite.

I like to be in control, especially of others, I like to know I have their best interest at heart and I know exactly how to do it.

• Are you coordinated? Why do you feel as if you are or are not? Do you enjoy working with your hands in some form? Describe your activity?

Ive been locked up for 20 years i suck at being coordinated, i started learning how to walk and talk like a normal person again 3 years ago lol yes its that bad

• Are you artistic? If yes, describe your art? If you are not particular artistic but can appreciate art please likewise describe what forums of art you enjoy. Please explain your answer.

i like piano, while i never had the chance to practice it growing up **but now i do!!!!**I'm able to replicate anything I hear over the piano even with minimum practice :)

• What's your opinion about the past, present, and future? How do you deal with them?

I ignore the past, I focus on the present and what I can do to make sure future me will have an easier time dealing with everything, it works every time.

• How do you act when others request your help to do something (anything)? If you would decide to help them, why would you do so?

I only help when I know the area of help they need have been well applied by me, which is mostly how to deal with life challenges, especially financial ones and against shitheads irl

• Do you need logical consistency in your life?

absolutely, i go insane when someone is irrational or sees the truth but tries to convince themselves and the world it doesn't exist, absolute pet peeve. and I dont subscribe to bullshit ideation, or even believing something blindly for the sake of emotional soothing, im not the type of person to run to religion when life gets hard, i see this as pretty weak, face your shit and stop victimizing yourself, do something instead of waiting for an imaginary friend to save you, you're deceiving yourself.

• How important is efficiency and productivity to you?

i breathe them

• Do you control others, even if indirectly? How and why do you do that?

if something involves me, i need to step in, i need to have a high level of control cus i will not let you get away with it if you fuck up.

if something doesn't involve me, to each their own, unless they ask me for help, then i start looking like a boss undercover, which is not as bad as it sounds like lol.

• What are your hobbies? Why do you like them?

piano! :D

• What is your learning style? What kind of learning environments do you struggle with most? Why do you like/struggle with these learning styles? Do you prefer classes involving memorization, logic, creativity, or your physical senses?

I prefer logic, consistency, and some sort of tangibleness, I don't mind it being abstract, I majored in physics and chem in highschool,they were my absolute favorite after human biology.

I love learning from others and replicating their way of thinking as long as its similar to mine.

I struggle with creative arts cus my brain goes blank, or with things with too many details, I prefer the big picture on the macro scale, or when im forced to use my emotions in something.

im slowly getting better at it nonetheless.

• How good are you at strategizing? Do you easily break up projects into manageable tasks? Or do you have a tendency to wing projects and improvise as you go?

I need strategy, improvising is for some scenarios only, i learned to hone my strategic thinking as a way to plan my escape from whatever i wrote before.

i believe mine are great relatively speaking, it gets broken into small goes for the big and main singular goaln mine was to take ownership of my life and leave everyone behind.

I do not like improvising unless im cracking a joke or socializing lol

• What are your aspirations in life, professionally and personally?

I aspire to be a healthy individual, both personality wise and body wise, I aspire to become untouchable, and no harm can go forgiven if its towards me.

I aspire to have a high status in society that nothing can reach me, I aspire to have the best things, at all times, and to finally relax a bit.

I also aspire to have social and monetary power over others, not as a mean for harm, but as self protection and wanting the absolute best for myself.

And I'm slowly working towards it.

• What are your fears? What makes you uncomfortable? What do you hate? Why?

being controlled, I'm a pretty calm individual unless my autonomy is threatened.

• What do the "highs" in your life look like?

i married an infj, the only healthy and empathetic person i have in my life

• What do the "lows" in your life look like?

please scroll up, 20 years have been mostly low and hard af LMAO

• How attached are you to reality? Do you daydream often, or do you pay attention to what's around you? If you do daydream, are you aware of your surroundings while you do so?

painfully attached to reality, i cant even get myself to fantasize about anything anymore, it takes the magic out of life, maybe thats why im pessimistic and have a negative outlook on life, but for some reason, that gives me enough drive to go after what i want.

• Imagine you are alone in a blank, empty room. There is nothing for you to do and no one to talk to. What do you think about?

i dont think, i sleep, i was well trained for scenarios like this lol

• How long do you take to make an important decision? And do you change your mind once you've made it?

enough time to gather enough data, sift through them, make them into one singular big decision and implement it, i need some time to think of the best solution for a lot of areas at once, it works for me at least 100% of the time. Otherwise if that decision isnt big, I go with the first thought, act first, think later, learn to keep thinking as you act;

I dont change my mind unless I'm faced with a better alternative, improvise adapt overcome lol

• How long do you take to process your emotions? How important are emotions in your life?

i dont even know what im feeling (except rage sometimes) until it hits a 3 to 6 months mark, shit gets processed way too late and then im stuck with "wtf happened and how can i get rid of these feelings????"

and no emotions arent that important, my therapist says that they should, im slowly working on it

• Do you ever catch yourself agreeing with others just to appease them and keep the conversation going? How often? Why?

nah, if theyre wrong i tell them in a tactful polite way especially if their emotions will affect me negatively, either them lashing out or doing some dumb unpredictable shit, a lot of people i met are emotionally immature and i dont wanna deal with it, so you just choose the best way to tell them theyre wrong without making them feel theyre stupid, that comes later after they realize it themselves

• Do you break rules often? Do you think authority should be challenged, or that they know better? If you do break rules, why?

I don't care that much about rules, if authority is stupid, it needs to be challenged, im not letting anybody decide my fate or decide what i need to do, I do it on my own.

Or I get people riled up enough to see it and then they can do it, i dont have enough physical stamina for this lmao, that happened to me in college, fun times

If they know what theyre doing and I dont see any problem with it, meh, sure idc rly

I'm 16yo M. ESFP. I enjoy working out and playing football.

I'm diagnosed with depression and OCD.

I was born Muslim and then left it cz it didn't make sense to me.

I'm a senior in HS.

If I spend an entire weekend alone I would feel very lonely and depressed. I'll try to distract myself with fun activities.

I love physical activities. Outdoors. Am good at sports.

Am not that curious. I'm curious about psychology and fitness.

I dont like being a leader. I may not be good at it. I dont like to make decisions.

If I was a leader, I would take the opinions of everyone and try guide us forward and perform better.

I am coordinated. I did multiple tests and am physically good, in shape and highly active.

I like to work with my hands. Whether artistic or physical.

I am artistic and creative in that regards.

Learn and grow from the past. Live in the present moment. Look forward and dream big!

I'm helpful yet cautious and suspicious. Bcz it's my natural instinct and the right thing to do.

Logical consistency is important to me. Everything must make sense to me.

Productivity is very important. I value it and strive for more of it.

Yes. I control others even indirectly to get my desired outcome. I manipulate them.

I love to workout and play football. I like it bcz it gives me peace, confidence and joy.

I'm a visual and hands on learner. I struggle most with lectures. They're super boring. I need to be engaged and active with what am doing.

Am bad at strategizing. I leave things at the last moment bcz idc about em.

I aspire to win ironmans, triathlons and similar events. I aspire to become a successful speaker and communicator. I aspire to be great and someone my mom and myself are proud of!!

I fear not being myself or feeling Luke I don't exist or matter. Not having an impact.

Social situations makes me uncomfortable.

I hate anything bad.

The highs are when am very successful and accomplished.

The lows are when am suicidal and withdrawn from the world.

I am attached to reality but I prefer my dreams. I love to sleep cz I hate facing my reality.

If am alone in a blank empty room, nth to do, no one to talk to. I go to sleep. If I have to, I will think about my love.

I hate making decisions. It takes very long for me to decide on smth. I change my mind often even when I've decided.

Idk how to process my emotions. Emotions play an important role in my life, since am not gonna do smth if I don't feel good about it.

Yes. I would agree with others to not cause any conflict. But sometimes I will state what I believe in regardless of what they might think.

I dont break rules. I dislike authority. I hate anyone telling me what to do.

Nevermind the title. Just type me.

ESFP

Loves to play football and workout.

Enjoys the company of 1 close friend or romantic relationship.

I'm driven by achievement.

I feel crushed by failure but strive to improve and do better.

I fear not being able to be myself or feel like i dont exist.

In conflicts, I'm calm and prefer to stay away and withdraw.

I'm most fulfilled by feeling sense of joy and happiness in my pursuit while being the best at it.

Under Stress, I withdraw and distract myself in fun activities.

When overwhelmed, I want to sleep and perish.

I heavily dislike group settings and prefer one to one interactions.

In uncertain situations, I prefer to seek help and try get to certainty and clarity.

Hi!

So, I’m specifically looking for some outside perspective with regard to the instinctual stacking. I’m pretty confident in my type fixes in each center + core type. I’ve read quite a lot of material pertaining to the instincts, too. I have John Luckovich’s book, read most of it. I’m just a little too zoomed in, so I’d appreciate whatever perspective anyone can offer.

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So here are my some personal traits:

ISTP

Independent

Fearful against other

Can become very aggressive

Only preforms well under pressure

Defensive

Loyal to very few people

Sometimes, I bully people while fearing other bullies

Adaptive

Becomes paranoid when I hear someone is talking about me

I don't really like rules. I would want to break them if needed.

I might get mad easily, but I seldom let others know.

Somehow introverted.

I’m doing this because I’m curious about people’s opinions even though I automatically deem them as inaccurate. I feel like people will take my words and perceive them wrong and come up with something that isn’t me.

Took me a long time to accept I’m probably a reactive type

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Enneagram "type me" questionnaire

2. Tell me about your internal experience of yourself. What makes you, you?

My self hatred, next

3. You just had a really good day. Describe it. It can be a real recent example or an aspirational one.

Honestly, just getting shit done. Like basic shit. if I get the basic stuff done then that’s already a good day. A really good day would be me being happy and people would stop arguing with me. Doing the things I need to do would be a good day.

4. If someone is upset with you, what is the typical reason for it? Give a recent example.

Okay. Uhm.

A: people get mad because I talk too much in a way of being a know-it-all. I’m an extremely quiet person but I like sharing my knowledge with people. Like I get “you think you know everything” a lot and in a negative manner. I’m dumb but there’s one or two subjects I completely obsess over.

B: I don’t even know how to start this. Just standing up for myself when I don’t get what I should be getting. I get really frustrated when this happens because I am never being heard. It’s just stupid family stuff.

C: Another one is me being lazy. Understandable. People get mad because I’m in my room all day or I’m sleeping all day because I don’t want to be awake.

5. What are you like when you're stressed? What are your coping mechanisms? Give an example of a recent stressful situation and how you handled it.

Alright, this one I can answer. My main defence is self isolation, I take it to an extreme level. I’m avoidant too.

I project my fear of rejection onto other people. I think they all hate me or they won’t like me so I don’t bother trying. Also, along with this, I have black and white thinking. Everyone’s either scary, mean and evil or they’re a good person.

I don’t typically have black and white thinking, I think it gets triggered when I’m with people. Or when I’m in an argument with them. Or I’m moody. I’m always moody. Yeah it’s only with people and not with other stuff.

I cannot handle pressure at all. I freeze up. I dissociate. I get depressed. If there’s something I have to do, it will be constantly on my mind but I don’t do it.

When I’m stressed, I can’t handle people who don’t keep up with me and I blow up in their faces. I’m not patient. I don’t take care of myself. I obsess over what I’m stressed about and only think of it. I want to be alone, if people don’t leave me alone, I blow up in their faces again.

6. What pushes your buttons? What makes you angry? How does your anger manifest? Can you be openly angry with others?

Sometimes I react openly, sometimes I don’t. It somewhat depends on my mood and my environment. If I’m already calm then I don’t react but it will ruin my day or ruin a few hours or ruin my perception of the person. If I’m already very irritated then I will react openly angry and I don’t care if it’s in public. If I’m really tired then I don’t react and ignore them because I simply don’t care, I like being tired.

Being misunderstood really gets to me. I will over explain myself and people don’t listen because I’m rambling. Also, people not listening to me pisses me off. I hate feeling like I’m not being heard.

People being passive-aggressive annoys the hell out of me. I hate aggressive people but at least they express their anger.

7. What’s your deepest fear? Why is that your fear?

Bold question to ask, how many people truely know their deepest fears?

As I wrote this, I realised I’m more afraid of being judged for who I am by people close to me and myself. The fear of rejection I have is more surface level. My entire being refuses to be someone I’m not even if I desperately want to be someone else.

I am actually terrified of being misunderstood by people. It really pisses me off when I open up about myself to someone and they think they know everything about me.

8. What types of memories cause you the most shame? What feelings cause you the most shame? What is it about them that causes you shame?

I feel so much shame.

I won’t say what it is but it causes me the most shame because I can’t believe I let myself get to that level. I hate people. I hate that no one took care of me when I needed it. I hate that the people who were supposed to care for me, laughed instead. That causes me shame.

I’m shameful about who I am. I hate who I am.

9. What is your relationship with pleasure? What gives you pleasure? Can you have pleasure when you want it, or do you have to earn it?

I don’t know? I crave dopamine and I do stuff that quickly gives me it. If I’m actually happy about something that’s meaningful but I didn’t earn it then I will feel worthless like I don’t deserve it and then get unhappy.

10. What’s your relationship with authority? Think both abstractly and with specific authorities in your life, possibly your parents, boss, religious leader, doctor, or government figures? Are you an authority?

I’m not entirely sure of my opinion on authority. I generally dislike them. People shouldn’t have power over other people unless it’s absolutely necessary. It’s a bit confusing to me because I don’t know where I stand.

Religious leaders suck ass though. Politicians suck ass.

11. When your mind wanders, what are you thinking about?

Bit of a vague question. I think about everything??? Idk

12. You have a big decision to make. Describe how you decide what to do.

Panic. I mean, decisions are hard. I’m indecisive unless I already have a formed and strong opinion.

I would compare decisions and think in my head how each outcome would look like. Or I research information about said decision and then make multiple outcomes in my head. If I’m still unsure, I’d ask other people’s opinions, decide if they’re knowledgeable or not and consider it. I wouldn’t base my decision fully on other people because it’s my decision, not theirs.

13. What’s your biggest flaw?

Myself lol

14. What makes you special? (Or, if you don't feel special, what at least makes you different from other people?)

This is kind of like “you’re special, just like everyone else”.

Uhm… hmm. I stand out negatively because of my low social skills and I look weird. I act weird too. My mannerisms are unusual. I’m not fully weird, like if you saw me on a walk path, I don’t think you would notice anything unless you’re an extremely judgemental person. I’m pretty much an average person.

I see myself as weird though. I don’t fit in anywhere and I’ve stopped trying. That makes me different compared to other people my age. I don’t mind that much, I think.

15. How much of your mental energy is spent on thinking about each of the past, the present, and the future?

Primarily the past. Sometimes the future. Not much of the present.

If this means my past, then yeah I think about it a lot and I don’t want to.

If this means historical past then I think about it a lot and I love thinking about it.

For the future, when I’m moody then I think about how much the future is gonna suck and why stick around for it. If I’m not moody, I think about how cool the inventions are gonna be and how everything will change.

For the present, I hate thinking about it and I kind of avoid doing so.

16. You unexpectedly find yourself with a whole weekend with no obligations, and everyone else is busy. How do you feel about it? What do you do?

It wouldn’t be that much different from my life right now… I’d sit around not doing anything. Maybe get into some random hobby and obsess about it then drop it in a week.

17. What’s your personal vibe/style/aesthetic? How cultivated vs natural is it, and how much time do you spend on it? Do you turn it on and off?

I don’t like having a style or an aesthetic because I hate those labels. I love a lot of music genres that affect the way I dress but that’s because I love them, yknow. I don’t turn it on and off because there’s nothing to turn on and off.

18. Which of the following is the most like you? Explain.

A) I know what I want, I go out and make it happen, and people won't stop me.

B) I am content to be on my own and not draw too much attention to myself.

C) I have to be responsible and dedicated, and I put others’ needs first.

Oh, definitely B. I don’t like drawing attention to myself at all. Sometimes I do but I only want one persons attention. I hate everyone’s attention on me, a lot. I like being alone because it’s safe and fun.

19. Which of the following is most like you? Explain.

A) I dislike stress and negative vibes, and I may try to distract myself from my problems.

B) I have strong feelings, get worked up easily, and am not afraid to show it.

C) I don’t like to let my feelings show; they get in the way of being efficient and logical.

I guess a mix of B and C. I don’t like showing my feelings and I wish they weren’t so strong but sometimes I slip up and show them.

20. Which of the following is most like you? Explain.

A) I look to others for feedback and guidance and am willing to be flexible when needed.

B) I am always aware of how things could be better, and I’m disappointed that they are not.

C) Deep down, I am afraid people won’t give me what I need unless I make it worth their while.

Definitely strongly a mix of B and C, last question wasn’t really that big of a deal to me but this question, both B and C are me.

I lean more towards B because I don’t actually do stuff to make people give me what I need. I get mad when I’m not given what I need.

I’m currently writing a character using enneagram and mbti. He’s ENTJ but judging by how cold and expressionless he is, he feels more like IXTX. The problem is that I still can’t choose for his enneagram type. He’s initially meant to be 8, but as I cover the plot holes and change some things, 8 is not likely, at least that’s what I think. Possible types are 1, 3, 5, 6, 8. I need help with deciding his core motivation. Here are some facts about him.

1. He’s 30, at a high position involving in a crime organization.
2. He wants to be competent and useful for others, especially for his loved ones and people who are useful for him.
3. He knows what he wants and is always clear with his intentions to avoid unnecessary consequences. (But got swept up a little bit and lived in the moment when he falls for his partner)
4. He doesn’t put up a fake persona to look good in public. He only cared to an extent if it affects his business or not. Apart from that, he doesn’t care about how others see him. He might be polite and wear a business smile if it’s necessary, but most of the time, he’s cold, blunt and wears a poker face.
5. Possible traumas from childhood? Hmm. Well, his parents were not warm with him as their marriage is not for love. He lived in a big manor with anything he wanted, but the interactions with his parents are rare. There’s a huge gang war happened when he was 5 and his mother took him to somewhere safe which leaded to meet his adoptive father(XXFJ). His adoptive father treats him well though. He’s very patient with him. He’s one of the few people whom the character shows his gentle and kind side.

What enneagram type would suit him?🤔 You can give advice about MBTI too if his facts don’t suit an ENTJ.