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Progressive Quotes:
2023 Model Y, 9000 miles Insurance quote: $1250
2025 Model Y, new Insurance quote: $960
So EVs get more expensive to insure over time? Or is this just wrong? Please help me set my mind at ease π. Both policies are the same btw.
I get that we've made a lot of progress and fast charging is usually 20-30 minutes but compared to an ICE car it's still too slow and probably a reason why people who do long distance drives don't want an EV. I get the idea that people need a break anyway but if you're in a rush you don't want to have to stop and wait 20 minutes for a charge. Why isn't it possible to have even faster chargers that could charge from 20-80 in 5-10 minutes so that the "static time" can compare more to a gas car?
I have a friend who has an EV and he's been short on time and he's often stressed that if he goes too fast he'll need to stop and charge and waste 15-20 minutes and be late to his destination
A tesla model Y consumes 320 Wh/mile travelling at 75 MPH speed. So it would consume 24,000 Wh per hours (320 Wh/mile Γ75 miles). So they need an average power of 24 kW to travel in highway speed. 24 kW=32 HP. An EREV with 32 HP engine and 30 kWh can provide enough power for acceleration and hill climbing. (A 30 kWh battery can give a power of 120 kW or 160 HP, in addition to 32 HP from the engine)
A 30 kWh battery can 120 miles of electric only range.
Also EREV would be much less mechanically complex compared to an ICE or PHEV car.
EREVs would allow people living in countries with less improved charging infrastructure to take long road trips with worries.
Another benefit of EREVs is winter driving. You can heat both the cabin and battery using the waste heat from the engine.
For what I've seen, each manufacturer has their own flavor... Some require extra subscriptions, some are for free, some drop support after a few years...
Do you guys (and girls) know of any app to rule them all? And if not, isn't this a good market opportunity for a third party app?
What's stopping someone from connecting a Arduino or a Pi to the car and using it as a remote control?
I know the consumer EV market is really struggling.
Significant bankruptcies recently; Canoo, Fisker, Lordstown Motors
Nikola likely to file chapter 11 soon. As far as I can tell electric busses are pretty much dead.
Please convince me that there is still a good short term outlook for the commercial mmarket. I really want the commercial EV industry to succeed
Daimler and Volvo seem to be doing okay from what hear. Tesla Semi will hopefully spark some amount of revival.
I've wanted to build an EV car for a while now. Something about saving the body of a beat up older car, gutting it, and modernizing it makes me not concerned about the cost over just getting a new EV. But I also want to include a generator in the build like a simplified version of the Chevy volt. Then I thought maybe starting smaller with a motorcycle is the way to go... And I found surprisingly little information on it. There's a Russian company called Baltmotor that released an ATV bike called the Bulldog last year. It's full EV with a removable portable generator. It blows everything else in it's class out of the water. Look it up, it's a lil beast. All the benefits of full EV with unlimited range assuming access to fuel.
My question is, what are the downsides of this system that I'm missing? You don't need to make a hybrid system complicated, full EV with a small and efficient generator is ideal... But it's nowhere to be found. I must be missing something but I can't seem to find any downside in researching it.
Hi Folks,
My 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 is not getting charged. I tried 3-4 different chargers. When I took it to dealership, they said, one of the pins in the charging inlet was bent and its not covered under warranty since its caused by external force. I don't believe, how can it bend just by plugging in charger as we do normally. This clearly indicates design flaw /poor quality material. They are quoting $2500 to fix this. Anyone has similar experience and any advise / solution? Thanks in advance.
Hello fellow EV enthusiasts, so here's a review of Wuling Air EV (oof, intro so stiff I can be mistaken for a China propagandist)
So once upon a time Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation, GM and Wuling (SGMW) decided to collaborate to spearheaded new energy vehicle revolution by selling the cheapest no frill EV in China. The collaboration birthed the Baojun E100 in 2017, an electric microcar in the same breath as Smart Fortwo. The line became SGMW best sellers in China because of its entry level price and the company decided to go global with line in 2020.
I'm not going into detail the MANY brands SGMW sells their product, I will just focus on the Wuling brand sold in Indonesia.
The Wuling Air EV is sold globally starting in 2022 in Indonesia followed the year after in India. It's not the instant hit SGMW expected, but sales are strong pushed by government subsidies. The Air EV by far was the cheapest EV where it debuted. It still holds the cheapest EV in Indonesia with the new entry level "Lite" variant.
I bought the Wuling Air EV long range type with these specs:
I deleted a lot of drafts to write this one since I don't know how to start with the review but TLDR, the car is just a basic commuter that works with all the cost of ownership saving that comes with EV ownership vs ICE.
And here's the detailed review... So yeah it's a small dinky car that goes down deep in the cost saving hole. The cost saving was quite extreme that it affects driving and seating position. The car seats very high not just because the battery is under the car, but also the e-motor. On proper EV, the motor sits higher than the battery, either on the back or on the front of the chassis that allows the cabin to be lower on the ground along with the battery. On the Air EV, the motor sits inline with the battery with the floor of the car flat on top of it. So the car is small, but I sit high like an SUV. I can see all the smug faces of diesel burning truck owners disrespecting me on red lights.
The e-motor... Oh my goodness... No fancy transaxle here, because the motor is just bolted offset to a rigid axle. Yeah, this is the only (urban) EV I think in existence that needs a differential oil change.
With a tall body like that, one thing have to give to make the car sits lower to the ground, and that's tire size. The car rides on a 12" wheel with 145/70R12 tire. Wait, the suspension! I don't know the measurement, but it's the thinnest strut and spring mcpherson setup I ever saw. The car eats bump like sh*t, it doesn't feel like it has any suspension whatsoever. I think I broke the suspension strut mount...
And with that, driving dynamics is non existent. It still can turn, but I always felt like it's going to tip over if I did even like 7/10. The 40 HP motor is okay, because the car weighs around 800 Kg and the e-motor torque is enough to drive around town. The max speed is limited to 105 KpH but the torque curve probably done with the car around 90 KpH... Also the car is very prone to sidewinds, so no thank you for getting to max speed.
Thankfully, driving comfort goes, the car has auto brake hold which is heaven sent because one quirk of this car is that when you put the car in drive, it doesn't have idle creep.
Interior wise... Okay, I guess... I'm 178 cm tall, I sit okay, albeit a bit upright-ish. Front leg room is generous and I think the thin front struts have its advantage here. My tweens kids sits well in the back, thanks to the car tall roofline that 2010 mm wheelbase is pushed to the edge for the seating arrangement... Which makes the term trunk is debatable at this point. This car have a trunk? Eh, I'll call it more like a cubby hole, with about 10-12 cm of opening on the back.
Amenities are sparse, no glovebox. Physical AC controls, everything else is controlled by the big useless touch screen. Luckily I can put the screen on "standby" mode which only shows a big clock.
Seems all negative? Yeah, if it's not for EV benefits this car is trash, but thanks to it. Holy hell all the cost saving I got from owning this car. From US$200 for monthly fuel on using my ICE car to work, now I only need to pay US$20 for electricity bill. Also government subsidy means I only need to pay... And you guys are not reading this wrong... Yearly tax of just US$1. My ICE car yearly tax is US$400. Also saving on ICE cars usual oil change every 4 months.... Well at least the differential oil on the Air EV is like every 2 year or so. Also I got free charging port at my house, beats waiting in line at the fuel pump and no more worries about monthly price change of fuel.
Why don't I change to a bigger EV? Price. My Air EV cost me US$15,000, and the next cheapest EV is the Wuling Binguo at US$20,000. Since I'm a single income father of two with one needing special care, I already have to work three jobs to maintain everything. So every US$1000 increase is an exponential hill to climb for me. Still, I'm grateful for my Wuling. I don't like it, but it's the best that I can have right now.
P.S. Sorry for the image structure, this is my first time posting images here.
P.P.S. Why I chose Wuling. The company has a lifetime warranty clause for the battery and motor with a yearly 30,000 Km limit. So it's a lucrative scheme for me who is worried about EV battery/motor longevity.
In case you missed it. Trump just announced that he will be enacting 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada but only 10% on Chinese imports. Which obviously much less. What could this mean for the Chinese Auto industry in America?
I have a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5, and I only owned it for a month before it got totaled when I ran over a rock. Turns out that the bottom of the car is only protected by plastic, although that's where they keep their 38k battery (costs over 42k to replace). A car being totaled by a rock is unheard of to me, and I genuinely believe that it is a design fault. Hyundai's consumer affairs has refused to help me, and my insurance adjuster is only offering 30k for a car I just bought at 48k MSRP (it was about 58k out the door) a month ago. I am looking at close to 30k of loss, even with insurance help.
I HIGHLY do not recommend ANYONE to get the EV cars from Hyundai. If they're only going to cover the most expensive part of the car with plastic and let it be that easy to damage, while not offering any help for a fault in their design, this would cause you a lot of headaches.
And if you don't believe that this is something that happens to other people, look up "60,000 to replace battery. The battery costs more than a brand new car" on Youtube, and scroll to the comments section to see even more instances.
I have a 2017 Audi A3 etron and it has a warranty for 15 years or 150k miles. Itβs got 60k miles on the vehicle. I recently took it into Audi and the determined that my battery has degraded by 50% but they will not replace it. Has anyone experienced this? How far does it have to degrade to be replaced? Thank you in advance.
I'll be getting my very first EV (Renaul Megane E-tech Electric) on tuesday and I was wondering if there are any android phone applications which can link to a bluetooth OBD2 device and could combine the GPS trip logging with the consumption info coming from the OBD2 device?
Of course I can use for example TripLog application for free and log my driving there and then manually reset the car consumption every time I start the car and manually enter the consumption after each drive but it would be nice if that could be automated. I cannot find any information about TripLog website if this feature is already supported and they have a premium version of the app which has some OBD2 integration but I have no idea what those are.
It doesn't have to be TripLog app, that was just an example, but something similar would be appreciated if any of you know that such an app exists. Thanks.