/r/Dovahzul

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Discussion of the Dovah. Post anything language related.

Welcome to /r/Dovahzul!

This subreddit is dedicated to learning the language of dragons from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Here you can discuss different points of the language, such as sentence structure and grammar points.

What is Dovahzul?

Dovahzul is a spoken and written language from the game The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. The language is incomplete in the game, so fans have created more characters and words to make this language.

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3 Comments
2024/05/10
11:47 UTC

2

Dreh hi mindok fin win name do Secundus?

Joke.

0 Comments
2024/04/11
04:44 UTC

16

duolingo style app for Dovahzul?

Over easter I've been tinkering with duolingo style app for Dovahzul. It's in a very rough state and not yet online but it can generate and play random sentences using audio snippets I've extracted from the creation kit.

I don't think it would be an unreasonable effort to clean this up but the problem are the audio files:

  • I doubt I could use material from the game, not productively for sure and possibly not even as templates to host a community driven program to supplant them. I could probably write a small program that extracts specific lines from the game files though.
  • The vocabulary coverage is woefully incomplete. A mere fraction of the already sparse dictionary is ever spoken in the game. Leaving only thuum.org as source for pronunciation.
  • The audio files I do have aren't very consistent and the thuum.org pronunciation often differs from that again. So ideally there should be one pass over the existing audio files to reconcile the different pronunciations.

So: How much interest/support would there even be for such a project?

Update: Since this has gathered a good deal of attention, I'd like to give a short update. /u/nerdragon13 and I are working on it with him as the language expert and me on the technical side. We've agreed that we don't want to simply copy thuum.org and call it a day but take our own look at the original sources that are available and see to what conclusions we're coming. We feel there are a good amount of inconsistencies in the spoken language that might benefit from some rework. At the same time we're also sensitive to the fact that many people have already learned and extended dovahzul on the basis of thuum.org 's work and throwing all that out would be a significant inconvenience to existing learners.

As for the technical side. This is my first significant web project with a modern framework, so doing everything by the book has been a bit slower than I anticipated. Particularly implementing a proper user management has been some effort up-front but means I won't have to rework the entire site before presenting it to "the public". I estimate another week to get the core contributor pages finished. Then the core effort will switch over to the language side.

11 Comments
2024/04/02
14:59 UTC

5

How to express possession like "I have a child/dog/house"?

The only way I've seen so far is saying "this is my X".

"Lost" only seems to be used as "have" for tenses like "I have failed".

And "Piraak" explicitly says that it's unknown whether it is used for physical possession.

So... how?

0 Comments
2024/03/26
13:37 UTC

3

Wind Guide You

There is a way to translate those words into Dovahzul? I tried searching everywhere but there doesn't seem to be an answer.

2 Comments
2024/03/24
19:55 UTC

4

Invictus in Dovahzul

Hello all! I am working on a translation of the poem Invictus to Dovahzul and was hoping for your assistance. I'm going to post the original poem in English, Then the substitutions I've used for words and concepts I couldn't find, then my best attempt at Dovahzul. I would heartily appreciate your assistance in better word usage and grammar as I am a novice.

Original:

Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul.

Word Substitutions for Dovahzul:

From the night that buries me, Black as the grave from end to end,

I thank you any gods may be For my unyielding soul.

In the fell grasp of chaos I have not cowered or cried

Before the attacks of chaos My head is bleeding, but unbridled.

After this place of wrath and tears Stands but the Horror of the spirit,

And yet the danger of the years Finds and shall find me fearless.

It is not worthy how mighty the door, How charged with punishments the scroll,

I am the master of my fate, I am the commander of my soul.

Dovahzul

Voth vulon tol deyto zu'u Ved ol faal qoth nol laat wa laat.

Zu'u kogaan naan rahhe ziistmaas kos Fah dii sindugahvon sil.

Ko faal spaan haalvut do tahrohvin Zu'u sizaan ni nikriin uv zaan

Us faal nos do tahrovin Dii klov los sosaal, nuz uznahgaar.

Mindin daar staad do bah ahrk luvve Kriist nuz faal vol se su'um

Ahrk yet faal tahrohgin se ervosse Siiv ahrk fent siiv zu'u faasnu.

Nii los ni Bahlaan sahrot faal miiraad.  Fonaar voth sosaal faal kel.

Zu'u los faal in do dii dez. Zu'u los faal konahrik do dii sil.

0 Comments
2024/03/22
20:10 UTC

3

Is it me or are the ingame translations rather sloppy?

I'm looking at:

Nafni wahlaan qethsegol bormahii vahrukt, Ragnvald, wen Zii fen mahfaeraak aak ok brod, ahrk folook ok hokoron.

with the supplied translation of:

Nafni raised this stone for his father, Ragnvald, whose Spirit will forever guide his clan, and haunt his enemies.

Now a direct word to word translation would look like this:

Nafni raise stone his father memory, Ragnvald, whose spirit will forever guide his clan, and haunt his enemy

To my admittedly limited understanding it should be more like this?

Nafni drey wahlaan Tol quethsegol Ko vahrukt do bormahii, Ragnvald, wen Zii fen mahfaeraak aak ok brod, ahrk folook ok hokoronne

0 Comments
2024/03/22
14:17 UTC

4

Memrise?

I’m looking to start learning dovahzuul again on Memrise and I can’t find any courses, anyone got a link?

1 Comment
2024/03/18
16:10 UTC

3

Pruzah Sul-Sulkren uv Mindin alok

I'm am a silly loser who doesn't know the language fully but instead uses the search.

7 Comments
2024/03/14
00:01 UTC

3

Dovahzul Anki Decks?

Does someone have an anki deck (alphabet and/or dictionary)? All links in the previous posts seems to be dead. In this forum thread "Thu’um – Dragon Language of Skyrim" deck is mentioned, but there is no such deck on anki website

0 Comments
2024/03/11
10:13 UTC

5

I made a translation to the firstverse of "Valhalla calling"

Veysun Nau Nah Do Fin Okaaz Los Bo Kiin Naar Wah Fin Graag Pindaar Enook Golt Los Aan Pruzaan Kiin Alok Ahrk Rel Gut Nol Fin Vaal Ahrk Iiz Krah Ven Ruvaak Bo Ko Daar Feykro Lovaas Ahrk Tey Do Dez Kogaan Spaan Ahrk Tuz Vaat Zul Uv Fin Fonaar Do Grah Fen Kos Dreh Fah Fin Brod Ahrk Fron Kod Tu Ahrk Fin Nos Do Strun Gro Ko Zu'u

Fin Haalvut Do Unslaad Laas

Sovergard Saraan

Fin Tiid Do Dun Fah Dii Dez

Sovergard Saraan Sovergard Saraan

0 Comments
2024/02/21
03:21 UTC

12

Came here to say thuum.org turned 11 on January 14th. Happy 11th Anniversary!

I've always been interested in the fact that there were people who put their heads together to make the language of the dragons, Dovazhuul. Can't believe there's a website that allows you to learn it online for free! That website turned 11 recently.

Wind Guide You.

0 Comments
2024/02/15
20:15 UTC

3

About Dova language

Im on iOS but it seems like I can’t find any translator of the runes.

4 Comments
2024/02/11
08:01 UTC

7

How can I write these phrases below in Thu'um/ Dovahzul?

I want to get a tattoo with the phrases "may I stand unshaken" or "be loyal to what matters" (Red Dead Redemption 2) but in Thu'um and when I went to the website thuum.org it didn't translate the entire phrase. Could you help me by showing me what these phrases would look like in Thu'um/ Dovahzul? Thanks in advance.

7 Comments
2023/11/11
14:42 UTC

4

How to say “I Love You”

I noticed when looking at the Dovahzul app that there’s not a word for love. It got me thinking, we should make a Shout that effectively conveys the concept of love. We of course want it to sound good too. Any suggestions?

4 Comments
2023/11/06
16:41 UTC

3

CHATGPT TO RSSURECT DOVAHZUL

I am trying tot use chat gpt to piece together dovahzul. Any one want to help or join in ?

3 Comments
2023/09/25
11:33 UTC

3

Couple different questions.

I plan on getting my dogs name "bandit" tattood. With the word being a name in this context would it be more correct to just transcribe the letters b a n d ii t. Or should i transcribe the dovahzul translation for the word bandit "fahdon" with the alphabet. And my second question is am i using the correct a and i?

8 Comments
2023/09/03
00:03 UTC

12

State of Dovahzul?

Peace fire sky,

I'm making my way through Dovahzul from Thuum but it's painfully clear, there's no real community at all and that new words from ESO might not be on Thuum and so just remain undocumented. There's no point in a language if you have no one to write or speak it to after all.

I've looked quite a bit but can't seem to find anything revolving a Discord community at all, is that really the case? I'd be happy to start a server if that's so as the Thuum forums are just dead and is filled with bot spam.

Another thing is the lack of ESO words and that Thuum org has many non canon words, the dictionary doesn't distinguish well what's canon and what's not. My thoughts on it is until all canon words are documented, only then should non canon be made if a phrase can't be made.

If there are any Discord communities, be sure to drop them below I'd be happy to join.

10 Comments
2023/07/15
14:07 UTC

5

New Learner!

Hi everyone! I realize that this community is very much not active at best and nearly dead at worst. But I thought I would still try and ask! I would like to learn Dovahzul, and I’m not sure how. I looked at thu’um.org but that community is dead. I would like to find others that could help me out. I’ve studied and copied the lessons on thu’um.org but I’m not sure that’s enough.

Anyone got any suggestions or advice? Thank you in advance in you do!

3 Comments
2023/06/28
15:48 UTC

2

im using better discord and want to change my font to dovahzul on pc

how would i change the font to dovahzul?

0 Comments
2023/06/08
18:39 UTC

1

Possession

I am currently learning Dovahzul from thuum.org. I am stuck at possession. I learned that there are possessive suffixes and I understand how to use them. However in the exercises below there is something I don't understand. What is "Dii"? It isn't exlplained anywhere.

https://preview.redd.it/6csrm7ucds0b1.png?width=673&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c4ae076cf6022aa6b8e96b3de997701dea443df

1 Comment
2023/05/19
13:00 UTC

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