Ok, so a bit of a background. I play with a LARP group, where my character is a Saurion, descendant of dragons. Essentially a lizard creature. I started learning Dovhakin as flavor for the character, it was meant to lead to something in-game but that fizzled. But still want to get there eventually I suppose.

My wife and I have also visited Japan, so I’m also trying to learn Japanese. woo. Learning both of these languages though without speaking it with a partner is extremely difficult and gets very frustrating. I forget, which leads to that spiral.

So, my decision is “fish or cut bait” essentially. Give up on one or both, since quite frankly the last visit to Japan they used Google translate, and the game doesn’t necessarily need for me to learn this since I’ll be the only one speaking it.

Or, get back on that horse.

I made a Discord channel, which I’m hoping to be an all-encompassing fan site for Skyrim, with a Dovhakin section. https://discord.gg/TqHxZwxz just in case. Of course if there is already a site I could join that and dissolve this one.

I suppose my making this channel is kind of an admission to myself that I want to go forward on it. Time to indulge in lethargy is over, gots-to-git-goin.

So for the next week our two I’m going to get the framework down, get out those flashcards out, make plans. And, hopefully find speaking partners, here or elsewhere.

I mostly need is some accountability, keeping myself into it, which is why I’m reaching out like this. If anyone has had experience in learning a language in general, you can understand the triumphs and pitfalls that come with that. I hope to get together with likeminded people on this.

If someone is very fluent in the dovah language, would they mind teaching me? Spoken and written preferably! Thuum.org is a bit hard for me to learn from as I can't learn from just reading. Especially a language. I would love to not only have a mentor to speak with but someone that could be very active with it!

I'm currently writing my dissertation on conlangs and I need recordings of someone who's confident at speaking Dovahzul as part of it. Would anyone with a decent recording setup be willing to lend me their voice? I can dm details.

What happened to thu'um.org, and why is it practically inactive now?

So I am trying to translate something my first theatre director and professor would always say to the cast before a show, and that was "Tell the fucking story." There are translations for everything but the word fucking, obviously. So I'm looking for help with the best way to translate the work fucking or at least something with a similar gusto.

I’m having trouble finding a word or something similar to moon or stars for a phrase. Is there one?

How would one say, or describe, the concept of vampirism? Like, how would one express "They are a vampire"?

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With the website being down and my knowledge being fairly basic I am looking for some assistance in translating a poem and getting an understanding of the pronunciation. My friends an I go to a multilingual poetry reading once a month and I thought it would be cool to do it in Dovahzul

I'm trying to translate something, and I'm using the thuum.org dictionary. I need the word "commitment", but all I found is "commit" which is "drah". I tried looking through the lessons on their website on how to bend "drah", but I might be a bit to smoothbrained cuz I'm so lost.

Hello everyone,

I'm practicing creating natural language models in different languages, and would like to have one that can speak the dragon tongue. Especially because I don't want it to just die out -- finding pen pals is already tough as it is, as well as remaining in touch, so maybe creating a virtual language speaker could help those who want to learn and practice.

The problem is, all these models require massive amounts of sentences to learn how to "speak" a given language. I'm talking thousands of sentences, all cut up into words and syllables and used to make a computer talk like a native.

Thus, I need sources. Sentences for the machine to learn. UESP is good enough for a couple dozen (like word walls), but the more, the merrier.

Does anybody have links to some big repositories of phrases in Dovahzul? Or some letters/poems/songs/whatnotelse that they'd like to share? Translations are very much welcome, as well as pretty much all levels of canonicity (just please mention if you're using non-canon words). Even more day-to-day phrases like "I am the lord" or "How are you?" will help.

Thanks!

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Joke.

Over easter I've been tinkering with duolingo style app for Dovahzul. It's in a very rough state and not yet online but it can generate and play random sentences using audio snippets I've extracted from the creation kit.

I don't think it would be an unreasonable effort to clean this up but the problem are the audio files:

• I doubt I could use material from the game, not productively for sure and possibly not even as templates to host a community driven program to supplant them. I could probably write a small program that extracts specific lines from the game files though.
• The vocabulary coverage is woefully incomplete. A mere fraction of the already sparse dictionary is ever spoken in the game. Leaving only thuum.org as source for pronunciation.
• The audio files I do have aren't very consistent and the thuum.org pronunciation often differs from that again. So ideally there should be one pass over the existing audio files to reconcile the different pronunciations.

So: How much interest/support would there even be for such a project?

Update: Since this has gathered a good deal of attention, I'd like to give a short update. /u/nerdragon13 and I are working on it with him as the language expert and me on the technical side. We've agreed that we don't want to simply copy thuum.org and call it a day but take our own look at the original sources that are available and see to what conclusions we're coming. We feel there are a good amount of inconsistencies in the spoken language that might benefit from some rework. At the same time we're also sensitive to the fact that many people have already learned and extended dovahzul on the basis of thuum.org 's work and throwing all that out would be a significant inconvenience to existing learners.

As for the technical side. This is my first significant web project with a modern framework, so doing everything by the book has been a bit slower than I anticipated. Particularly implementing a proper user management has been some effort up-front but means I won't have to rework the entire site before presenting it to "the public". I estimate another week to get the core contributor pages finished. Then the core effort will switch over to the language side.

The only way I've seen so far is saying "this is my X".

"Lost" only seems to be used as "have" for tenses like "I have failed".

And "Piraak" explicitly says that it's unknown whether it is used for physical possession.

So... how?

There is a way to translate those words into Dovahzul? I tried searching everywhere but there doesn't seem to be an answer.

Hello all! I am working on a translation of the poem Invictus to Dovahzul and was hoping for your assistance. I'm going to post the original poem in English, Then the substitutions I've used for words and concepts I couldn't find, then my best attempt at Dovahzul. I would heartily appreciate your assistance in better word usage and grammar as I am a novice.

Original:

Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul.

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Word Substitutions for Dovahzul:

From the night that buries me, Black as the grave from end to end,

I thank you any gods may be For my unyielding soul.

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In the fell grasp of chaos I have not cowered or cried

Before the attacks of chaos My head is bleeding, but unbridled.

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After this place of wrath and tears Stands but the Horror of the spirit,

And yet the danger of the years Finds and shall find me fearless.

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It is not worthy how mighty the door, How charged with punishments the scroll,

I am the master of my fate, I am the commander of my soul.

​

Dovahzul

Voth vulon tol deyto zu'u Ved ol faal qoth nol laat wa laat.

Zu'u kogaan naan rahhe ziistmaas kos Fah dii sindugahvon sil.

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Ko faal spaan haalvut do tahrohvin Zu'u sizaan ni nikriin uv zaan

Us faal nos do tahrovin Dii klov los sosaal, nuz uznahgaar.

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Mindin daar staad do bah ahrk luvve Kriist nuz faal vol se su'um

Ahrk yet faal tahrohgin se ervosse Siiv ahrk fent siiv zu'u faasnu.

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Nii los ni Bahlaan sahrot faal miiraad.  Fonaar voth sosaal faal kel.

Zu'u los faal in do dii dez. Zu'u los faal konahrik do dii sil.

I'm looking at:

Nafni wahlaan qethsegol bormahii vahrukt, Ragnvald, wen Zii fen mahfaeraak aak ok brod, ahrk folook ok hokoron.

with the supplied translation of:

Nafni raised this stone for his father, Ragnvald, whose Spirit will forever guide his clan, and haunt his enemies.

Now a direct word to word translation would look like this:

Nafni raise stone his father memory, Ragnvald, whose spirit will forever guide his clan, and haunt his enemy

To my admittedly limited understanding it should be more like this?

Nafni drey wahlaan Tol quethsegol Ko vahrukt do bormahii, Ragnvald, wen Zii fen mahfaeraak aak ok brod, ahrk folook ok hokoronne

I’m looking to start learning dovahzuul again on Memrise and I can’t find any courses, anyone got a link?

I'm am a silly loser who doesn't know the language fully but instead uses the search.

Does someone have an anki deck (alphabet and/or dictionary)? All links in the previous posts seems to be dead. In this forum thread "Thu’um – Dragon Language of Skyrim" deck is mentioned, but there is no such deck on anki website

Veysun Nau Nah Do Fin Okaaz Los Bo Kiin Naar Wah Fin Graag Pindaar Enook Golt Los Aan Pruzaan Kiin Alok Ahrk Rel Gut Nol Fin Vaal Ahrk Iiz Krah Ven Ruvaak Bo Ko Daar Feykro Lovaas Ahrk Tey Do Dez Kogaan Spaan Ahrk Tuz Vaat Zul Uv Fin Fonaar Do Grah Fen Kos Dreh Fah Fin Brod Ahrk Fron Kod Tu Ahrk Fin Nos Do Strun Gro Ko Zu'u

Fin Haalvut Do Unslaad Laas

Sovergard Saraan

Fin Tiid Do Dun Fah Dii Dez

Sovergard Saraan Sovergard Saraan

I've always been interested in the fact that there were people who put their heads together to make the language of the dragons, Dovazhuul. Can't believe there's a website that allows you to learn it online for free! That website turned 11 recently.

Wind Guide You.

Im on iOS but it seems like I can’t find any translator of the runes.