As the title says.

The series itself (at least in my opinion) can rival some of the great Japanese series. Neither its quality or story is lacking (again, that just my opinion) So how come is it that it barely got any coverage?

The story revolves around Vengeful Spirit and Skywarth Mage with a rebellious plot against their false queen Imperia.

If you're hungry for some fresh Dota story content, there's also a new comic:

https://www.dota2.com/crownfall/comic

Here's Crownfall page: https://www.dota2.com/crownfall

This might not be related to the anime, but it's been a while since we get anything close to a Dota narrative, so you might want to check this one out. Happy fishin'.

My wife and I watched Seasons 1 and 2 in 2022 whilst she was pregnant and thoroughly enjoyed it. Filomena was so cute that we loved the thought of expecting a girl! Alas we had a boy. Then newborn parenting was tough and we completely missed that Season 3 came out, and it was only recently that we've found the time to watch it.

What a blast! I really enjoyed the throwbacks to Season 1 even though it was so long ago that we watched it. I liked the villain switching from Terrorblade to Invoker throughout the season. I loved the overarching theme of parental love and what you'd do for your kids. Really struck a note with me. I'd love to see this continued, it seems like it's the end but I've enjoyed it regardless. I don't even play Dota, just enjoy good animes! :)

!the quotes iirc said by mirana when doing rebellion to throw his uncle off the trone, iirc she said if I born to be a god the I should acts like one iirc this is said on s3!<

anyone could help me correct the quotes from the actual sources?

In the entire anime, Mirana looks like a 30+ year old woman. In addition, she is voiced by the beautiful voice of 42-year-old actress Lara Pulver. There is nothing wrong with this, but according to the anime version, she, like Marci, is only 23.

In the sixth episode of the first season Mirana says:

" I met her when i was 13.

for ten years, everything was perfect .

Until i failed her."

This refers to the meeting of Selemene

It turns out that at the time of the events of the first season she is only 23.

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What do you think about it?

Tired of hearing people do nothing but shit on Dragon's Blood left and right.

So what are some great or good things about this show that you liked?

Here's a few of mine

1. Marci being a mute character is a rarity all on her own, but characters around her, and her actions are well enough written to say things without saying a word at all. I think she's a fascinating example of how to handle a mute or quiet character.

2. Filomena and Invoker are incredibly well written Smart characters, Especially Filomena. This show didnt fall into the trap of "Make everyone else suddenly/consistently dumb so that the smart characters can seem smart." Something that happens fairly often in a lot of TV shows, like Dr.House and Rick and Morty.

3. People been asking for strong female characters in Media and Holy shit did Dragon's Blood deliver damn near a whole cast. Anime has a whole tends to be better with female characters, but often popular franchises run into repeated failures or resort to sidelining their female cast for a better story for a male character. Naruto is a great example of this. Ashely Edward Miller and the writing team, clearly said "Fuck that we're doing it right."

Mirana, Marci, Fymryn, Auroth, Luna, Filomena, Lina, even Tihomir is handled well. I do think Lina could have been a much better handled character, but it's also obvious that her character's development was cut short so they could complete the storyline within the runtime, which is a fair trade. But even then Lina wasnt so short changed that she's a trope.

Im actually quite surprised that this show hasn't gotten any real recognition for this because damn if there's one thing that's really worth watching this anime for if you're looking for it, it's the cast of female characters.

Filomena and Marci are just oodles of brilliant writing, and I hope the writing staff is proud of that accomplisment.

4. First time a multiverse story didn't make me roll my eyes.

Multiverse crap has been over used and turned into a huge crutch trope, especially since the MCU made it such a big deal. It's a lazy crutch. Thankfully Dragon's Blood avoided this and played it in a reasonable way. It doesnt feel like a multiverse story, which is nice to see one for a change that isn't generic eyerolling "Here we go again"

The Invoker violated the agreement he made with mirana by magically inserting terrorblade when the lotuses were to be delivered. And there was literally no repercussions, not even a slightest thing. He even bargains with terrorblade through the same shopkeeper gem. So why was he be able to blatantly violate the terms without any consequences?

Just had a quick question of just trying to reconcile in my mind the point of the gods with the worldwurm supposedly being the source of all reality. So if that's true, what's the point of mene and the gods. Are they not just creations of the worldwurm and shouldn’t it have absolute control over everything in its creation? To that point as well, what is the relationship there between world and eldwurms. Are they the same? Are they a part of the worldwurm? Subordinate? Cause clearly they have enough power since using them with the forge can shape reality too. Just having some issues reconciling the relationships and how there are other gods and their relevance if the worldwurm is being posed as the true source. And also how the power even compare. Thx

He would certainly stand and fare better against terrorblade. All he wanted was to be near his damn Sunbeam.

what do you think is the next story for dota or if what happens next in dragon's blood?

Before dragon's blood, Valve has released many dota stuff ranging from hero info, voice lines, item descriptions to trailers, short comics and events. While, of course, these things can't be really compared to a fully narrative experience such as Dragon's blood, they have represented the Dota 2 lore longer than the anime.

In my opinion as a dota fan, stuff from Valve are very different, they're funny, charming and memorable (I think I can still remember a lot of Agahnim's quotes), while the anime is much more serious, plot heavy (I think people here can describe it better than me, I'm not very eloquent in critiquing art). And I think this is why Dragon's blood is not as well received within the dota community.

So, what do you think of dota game lore and how does it compare to dota anime lore? Put aside the 'Arcane' argument, why is dota less well received inside and outside the fandom?

btw if you guys haven't read dota comics, i suggest you do, they're pretty fun

After Invoker uses the forge in Foulfell and everyone wakes up in a new universe, after Mirana goes to see the oracle and "remembers" her previous life (why just the ONE life, if as the oracle says, the invoker collapsed ALL realities unto ONE, and Mirana is the Worldwrym made flesh and according to Kashurra, and Slyrak, is reborn across countless planes of existance and multiple realities, why does she only remember just that one past life? Is it because that was the only other life in which she encountered a direstone? anyway...)

She remembers this previous life.. Where Marci is dead. Davion is dead. Lina is dead, and they had a bad relationship. Her father is dead. Her mother and father died under terrible circumstances. She had a worse life with far more hardship than the one she's lived in this universe...

Why the fk would she want to restore THAT universe?

The oracle's prophesy says she will travel into darkness to save what she LOVES (present tense) by allowing what she has loved (past tense) to die. What? Makes no sense. She Loves and has loved Marci and Davion. She's sacrificing both of them again to... let them stay dead?

Aside from saving the world and her own life in general.. I don't see what she really gains by restoring the old world.

Quite often I hear from people when talking about the anime this argument: "(It's not good because) You have to play the game to understand it." "If you dont play dota it's hard to enjoy it"

Or something to that effect. The argument that only dota players can enjoy this anime.

Which is... demonstrably untrue.

Personally I dont play Dota, my only real connection to dota is watching TI every year. I havent touched the game in YEARS.

And even when I did play, I'd just play normal/turbo with windranger, luna, mirana, lina, and drow ranger.

But I had no idea what any of the character lore was before watching the anime.(With the exception of the whole Drow Ranger x Windranger... pairing thing which is community headcanon not actual lore.)

I had NO IDEA who Luna was lore wise before the anime. I didnt know she was the scourage.

I didnt even know Davion was Dragon Knight's name.

I mean major characters like Fymryn, Filomena, Kashurra, Kayden, and Bram dont even appear in the game.

I think the only hero I knew any actual lore about was Drow, and her backstory with the whole drow trolls raising her and that's why she think's shes unattractive.(i dont even remember if this is still her lore)

And yet I still LOVED the anime.

I mean the anime is full of aspects and characters that aren't even in the game. It's not based around the concepts of Dire vs Radiant in the game.

So much of the anime is divided well away from what the game is doing

Including Voices. Laura Pulver sounds nothing like Mirana from the game. Davion is voiced by Yuri Lowenthal the same guy who voices Sasuke Uchiha, Yukinari Sasaki, and Simone(Gurren Laggan).

Basically none of the characters sound like their game counter parts, in attitude or vocals.

And I'm not using my self as the only reference point here. Sure I basically dont play dota I just watch TI so I know at least a relative amount abouit the game, so what about people who have never seen dota before?

I had a FwB that we watched the entirety of the anime together one weekend. She had never even heard of Dota before, and she thought it was awesome.

I also showed the anime to my boyfriend, who has never even seen dota 2 in his life. He's a indie game kind of guy, and loves anime.

He thought it was a pretty great anime too and he really enjoyed it. He told me that if I wanted to watch it with him again, he'd be up for that. He especially appreciated the anime style thats similar to record of lodoss war, and the direstone plot setup.

So do you really need to play dota and know the game to enjoy the anime?

Well 1 person who basically just watches the game once a year enjoyed it enough to rewatch it with others who had never seen it.

2 people I know I showed the anime too and they enjoyed it, one enough to want to rewatch it.

I'm sure these arent the only 3 people who dont play dota who enjoyed the anime.

I don't get why people say this other than to be bashers, and downplay the anime.

At the beginning of the season, Mirana, Luna and their elven friends cannot escape because the wood elves they slaughtered for no reasons won't let them leave. So Mirana goes on her own and kill dozens of elves without the help of her allies. How can she slaugther so many soldiers on her own?

So ive read a lot of posts and articles, watched all the YouTube videos and basically anything and everything that I can pertaining to this. I have questions and a theory of my own, which I have not seen or read anywhere else. It's maybe not an entirely original theory, and sort of combines quite a few of them, but lands at what I think is a different and unique conclusion and I don't know anyone who watches this show so this is my only place to come to talk to anybody about it. Sorry.

There's so many theories swarming around about Filomena and how she's able to suddenly cure herself of "the rot that claimed her" life in all the other universes. I've read in one of the many many theories/articles/whatever that the rot itself is the same as what Selemene inflicts upon her worshipers when they leave the physical plane and come up to… The moon plain? Soul realm? That Selemene kisses them on the forehead or lips, or whatever, and they appear to be enveloped with the same or similar purple rashes and bruises all over their bodies before exploding and... I don't know what. I would really love to know if there is more lore about this religion or worship, it seems that when Fymryn in the new universe is Mene her worshipers come up almost as a pseudopod, and that what they call "worshiping" the goddess is actually having sex with her, which I think is a little creepy. Selemene seems to just want the worship and the love that I suppose gets transferred through sex, or "worship" without actually putting out for anyone.

Anyway back to the way Selemene absorbs her power from her worshipers by creating these purple rashes that someone else somewhere else drew a parallel to Filomena's ailment. I found that really interesting however, I don't think that is actually what is occurring, but I cannot fully discount that theory for the simple fact that Filomina herself tells the Invoker that the rashes first appeared "when we left mother" -- suggesting that separation from or not providing worship to Selemene has something to do with the illness.

No, it's a cut to the chase and save everyone a lot of needless reading… My theory is that as many have already, I believe, correctly, surmised… The doll house was an allegory for the forge, and the ability to create new universe is, etc., however, this is not What Filomena did.

In season two, when the Invoker has Selemene hostage in his tower. He says to her, presenting her with the flower that he named after his daughter, the one she discovered, the one he populated the hidden valley with, that he would take Selemene's power, the power of the lotuses, and give it to the Filomena flower, that Filomena will live, and Selemene will die, forgotten. We later, see evidence of this, that the power has been drained from the lotuses, and supplanted into the Filomena flower, when Fymryn brings Selemene to the grave and Selemene drains the entire valley's flowers of their power to restore herself, as well as every time the invoker needs to regenerate his own magical energy he does it by draining a Filomena flower.

There's also one more relevant scene from season three, when Filomena was experimenting with the forge to create a stable universe and stop the mad moon from imploding, when she reinserted the second moon, the one Selemene and Fymryn/Mene inhabit (or are at least heavily influenced by) Filomena says "of course, it's gravity acted as a shield.... Mother, Mene, what did that do to you?" This harkens back to Selemene's death in Fymryn's arms when she said "you were mad once too and you will be mad once again," mad here of course meaning crazy.

So invoker uses the forge and lives this long life with Filomena in universe 12,403, teaching her everything she needs. The end comes. Filomena wouldn't accept a universe made by terrorblade, but it was her idea to have Mirana restore the original universe we watched through b1 and b2. Invoker gave the Filomena flower the lotuses power in that universe. Invoker used the forge, possibly just to bring Filomena back. And it's the power of the lotuses which carry the madness of the gravity of being the shield from the broken mad moon which Filomena uses to fizzle away the "rot." All before asking "do you love me?"

The power of the lotus is what can cure her but using it gives her the same need for worship that her mother had as they're still truly just the power of the second moon.

The Dota: Dragons Blood wiki is very poorly made: there are grammatical errors, factual inconsistencies, missing information, and other problems. Like, just read the Marci page.

Would anyone be interested in an organized effort to fix up the wiki with consistent, informative, and eloquent articles?

I've never played any Dota games but I love the tv show. Can someone give me a quick overhaul of which characters from the show come from the game and which ones were created for the lore of the show ? Also, do the stories look alike ? Is there even a story in the games ?

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After showrunner and screenwriter Ashley Miller said in one of his podcasts that Invoker created 12403 realities after living 14 trillion years, while remembering all the events and actions from past realities, this led me to think about the similarity of the character with Qilby from the French animated series Wakfu .

Qilby also lived a very long time due to the curse of eternal memory of all his past incarnations, unlike their other brothers and sisters, every time he was reborn he remembered everything.

Of course, Invoker and Qilby have completely different goals and act differently, if Invoker, creating many realities and living there for several thousand years, wanted to spend more time with his daughter, then Qilby was originally supposed to save history and knowledge in order to teach them to the Eliatrope people, but also started a war against Mechasms. Invoker himself can be said to also start a war with forces beyond his comprehension, because Arc Warden tells him "You meddle with powers you cannot comprehend" and also "For all your claims, you are still a fool".

The similarity of Invoker and Qilby is that they both went crazy, remembering everything, Invoker from past realities and Qilby himself from another life. It was very painful for Invoker to see from time to time how Filomena dies, that it is difficult to create an ideal reality and in reality 12403 did not even create a second moon, hoping that someone could stop him and end the agony. Qilby became crowded on his home planet and he wanted more knowledge and research, which led to a war against the Mechasms, even the valuable death of the world of twelve, he believed that his people were better off being nomads traveling through krosmoz, and memories and visions of the carelessness of his people were transmitted to him every once.

Inover, like Qilby, were locked in itou in solitude, Invoker was left alone in the Well of Souls, and Qilby was again locked in the White Dimension, if Invoker accepted everything and smiled, realizing his failure, or maybe relief that he was stopped, then Qilby looks at the flower and sobs, perhaps regretting everything he did, although Yugo can be considered a villain at this moment, because he did not give a second chance to Qilby, because it was in the White Dimension that Qilby first began to go crazy.

Invoker in main world experimented until he found cure for daughter.

Once he did he remade universes until he found one where she would be able to live long enough to learn secrets of universes and be wise enough to heal herself, she was safe in tower from destruction of end of universe.

Mirana remakes main world and Invoker(who doesn't need book anymore to operate dragon engine) pulls her from alternate reality to main world

I think of all the things about Dragon's Blood, Filomena is for me the best aspect of the series for a lot of reasons.

By season 3's end, she has become one of the best female characters in animation since Violet Evergarden.

And Honestly in the 4 times I've seen all of Dragon's Blood, twice I've watched the series, just to see Filomena's development and character alone.

She is a Fascinating and unique character.

Just some extended thoughts about her:

On a personal level, Her outfit and appearance in Book 3 is absolutely mesmerizing. Beige tinted Platinum Blonde hair and green/gold gemstone eyes is an archetype that I make almost all of my characters in MMOs.

Her adult outfit is really quite gorgeous, as well as her hairstyle.

She's bookworm/librarian styled, yet very cute and avoids the whole glasses=smart trope. Her hair is styled in a seemingly very chronistically appropriate, style but also shows some level of complexity that the other female characters don't have in their design. It sets her apart. She's feminine, but mature, beautiful yet welcoming. The bow in her hair is a nice touch.

Her voice actress, Alix Wilton Regan, plays her so fantastically well.

I mean the entire cast is incredibly well matched, and all of the performances are done well, but I feel like Filomena has such a powerful presence in the end, in part, because of her voice actress going above and beyond.

Plus her little Sidekick is a toy Bunny, a cute stuffed automaton-like she some how gave life too. It's adorable, and it's such a Filomena thing too. It's well within the kind of behavior we see child Filomena establishes. It's really quite cute.

She is a genuinely intelligent character. Filomena is written incredibly well as to be Smart without the writing making other people dumber to try to highlight how smart she is. I call this DrHouse Syndrome, where you make a character act like they are intelligent but in reality everyone around them just fucks up and acts stupid so the smart one can solve the problem.

Filomena's character doesn't engage with this shitty writing tactic at all. Instead she is a genuinely higher level thinker, and acts on her intellect and emotions as a genuinely intelligent and yet compassionate person would. And she's not overbearing with her behavior in terms of "look I'm smart you're not" instead taking a genuine place with empathy among the cast, she avoids being stand out arrogant character like many "Smart" characters are written. Her personality isn't "Look at me I'm smart", rather being intelligent is just a part of what makes her who she is.

I hate characters who's writing relies on the stupidity of others to make themselves stand out as smart, and Filomena's character avoids this problem entirely and I think this is something that people who criticize Dota don't really seem to realize.

From the way she's portrayed as a child to how she comes into her own as an adult, I think there is a HUGE lesson to be learned here about writing smart characters in fiction.

Filomena is a gold standard level example of how to write an intelligent character.

Following this, her development into her powers and her understanding of them and discovery that she is more capable than she realizes is also marvelous.

Her progression does not come off as forced, plot convenience driven, nor power creeped for no reason.

She is a genuinely well progressing character base on her place and experiences in the narrative. Her growth and development into her powers feels natural, and earned. Very much unlike a certain star wars character who manages to have every power handed to her at just the right time and place to make things happen.

Filomena struggles, makes mistakes, learns, and grows in power, in what feels a natural and meaningful progression.

And In the end, the most important element is her statement knowing there is nothing that can be done to prevent her death.

Her terminal illness plays a critical role in who she is, it is part of her, no matter which version of reality, without her disease there is no Filomena.

And with that knowledge, she does what she can to change the world and things for the better in the short time she has left.

And yet, the one small thing at the end is that after everything, the final iteration... she's figure out, something her father never could.

In the flowers, "Do you love me?"

What a fantastic, and brilliant character.