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DOTA: Dragon’s Blood is an anime series based on the popular DOTA 2 video-game franchise by Valve.
The fantasy anime series tells the story of Davion, a renowned Dragon Knight devoted to wiping the scourge from the face of the world. Following encounters with a powerful, ancient eldwurm as well as the noble Princess Mirana on a secret mission of her own, Davion becomes embroiled in events much larger than he could have ever imagined.
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I thought season 3 was killing it at the end, but then suddenly Filomena is alive, and apparently a goddess now?
With no explanation and no apparent reason for why that should be the case besides maybe the post-credit where Invoker and Filomena hold hands and then Mirana smiles at them.
But that doesn't really tell me anything, and so far as I know there's no new DOTA anime planned that would explain.
Did the community have some other rationale for this or have the creators ever spoken on it? I am perplexed as to why this was included.
In that case, doesn't it makes sense Filomena survived at the end because of Melena used the soul to recreate the world by letting go Davion and Marci. I know this sound stupid simpl 😂, but it makes a lot of sense if you think about it. If the invoker used it, he must accept Filomena's death.
I was told by a plethura of people that if I actually sat down and watched Arcane then... I'd get it; Why this anime, Dota Dragon's Blood, is a bad series.
The thing is that'd be unthinkable, a recovering league addict watching arcane? sounds more like a trap.
But if there's one personal failing that I cannot seem to allow in my head if I can fix if I can, is that I cannot stand to not be objective.
One cannot address a debate if one side is observed from ignorance.
So lets say I made a bit of a bargin with the shopkeeper and watched all 18 Episodes of Arcane in 2 nights.
It story and setting was nothing like I expected but the again neither was Dota.
But I really guess the answer to the biggest question anyone is reasond this for, "So do you see now? How much better Arcane is?"
Well. Yes and yet No at the same time.
I don't think one is inherently better than the other, they both have their highs and lows and do certain things far better than the others.
Both share a significant in common as well to a surprising level.
Both are "Adult Edgy" animation choices, from overt usage of foul language, rude gestures, blood spatter and gore, and character behavior, both are quite a littered with what I'd call adult edgy. Stuff that we as adults probably still wish it was cool to do or wear, or be a fan of yet we act like we are all beyond that. But we aren't. And both these shows bathe in it that truth.
I give it to Arcane, bravo. The animation is definitely exquisite. It is very strange, and it took me several episodes to get used too. But I can see why it was chosen. Almost every single frame could be a Splash Art. The characters were obviously inspired by game models, and the way it was handled you can pause almost any point, and take a still frame, and you have splash art. VERY Interesting.
Dragon's Blood is obviously anime, and one trying to emulate some of the oldshool and more mature designs. Most obvious being Record of Lodoss War. It looks pretty good and endearing. It captures anime incredibly well, it feels right at home on a top 20 anime recommendations chart. But the animation will show it's age, and while beautiful it it's own right. It's not Arcane's brilliant almost "every frame is a painting" animation.
Dota is a typical airing anime's 16:9 along with all that you expect of an anime, meanwhile Arcane clearly had the budget and produced the entire thing in a cinematic 21:9 style.
I'm still gathering many of my thoughts about Arcane, but in the aftermath of both shows there is quite a different note I feel.
For the end of Arcane, I realize by far the most I cared about was Jinx, Vi, and Cait. Almost all of the screentime not spent on them I was waiting to get back to them. By the end, I wanted to spend more time with Jinx, Vi, and Cait.
That's who all I cared about.
For Dota, I noticed how much it got me to care about a lot of the characters and their futures and experiences.
Marci and Mirana's dedicated friendship. Davion's genuine good heart, Luna's struggle, Lina's gamble, Bram's jokes and Aurouths enthusiasm, Invoker amd Filomena's gambit, if there was one thing dota seemed very good at doing it was introducing a character and making me attached and wanting to see their story play out. Watching Mirana step out of the shadows to be a powerful main character, Luna turn from horrid mindless villain to (pardoened?)redeemed champion for good, Kaden refusing to face his suvivor trauma, Davion's Struggle as Slyrak challenges his soul.
Dragon's Blood feels a bit like a game of thrones, and I have a stake in everybody's interests.
Arcane's story focus around Jinx is outstanding and it's by far the most well executed part of story telling in the series. But this is the thread that gets the most care to be colored in emotion, rather than storyline.
Where as even when Filomena is only introduced as an adult for a few episodes in the ending, the way Dragon's Blood handles it's characters, Filomena has an impact that is unforgettable. Dota's strength is in how many of it's characters it makes the viewer feel are important and that they can be empathized with.
I want to talk about LGBTQ Representation here, because this is one that bothered me.
The discussion always felt disingenuous, but I was given high expectations of Arcane. Specifically for Season 1. I had already had a spoiler posted of Season 2 so I wasn't surprised, but I wanted to know specifically what about Season1 was such good queer representation.
And I sat there and I watched especially because I myself am a queer woman in a relationship with another queer woman, so I was keen to see what everyone was talking about. And I was... disappointed. There wasn't a single thing in season 1 that you could have realistically said was actual hints. All of it was easily passable as friends or familiarity. As opposed to Dota at which we have Fymryn. A lot of people try to write this off as something else, but in reality cultural context does not divide away from the portrayal. Fymryn being bi/pan and deliberately so, in such a culturally accepted way is vastly better than whatever anyone saw in Season 1 of Arcane. I smell bullshit and theory crafting and head canon.
That being said Season 2 of Arcane, >!This is a very different story and conversation!<.
I tip my hat to you Riot. I see what you did. I see why you did it. I think I owe Riot Games an apology.
But in return buncha people need to apogolize for shitting on Dota for not being Arcane.
So no yall, Arcane didnt magically come in and make it so that I'd hate dragon's blood, and you were stupid and immature for thinking so.
Both are different kinds of experiences and for very obviously different audiences and saying one is trash or the other is just... blatant ignorance.
I will definitely and humorously state that of the 2 TV shows the one that definitely relies more on what you know about the game it's based on is hands down Arcane.
By the sheer amount of Meta inspiration and happenings within Arcane, it absolutely is the one that requires more of an attachment the game. Dragon's Blood is almost entirely divorced, but I definitely recalled a fair bit of my years of playing league before getting away from it.
Arcane is more reliant on it's attachment to pop culture and the culture around the game. Where as Dragon Blood is much more o fit's own entity, much more of DB is just it's an anime that happened to be named dota.
Sorry Arcane fans, but Dota wins in the consideration of being it's own entity. To get the fullest enjoyment about what was animated in Arcane, they'd have to be like me, a long term league player who understands the culture surrounding it.
Anyways
In the end my finale ratings for both,
Dota Dragon's Blood 8.5/10,
Season 1 Arcane 7.5/10
All of Arcane, 8.5/10
Both got 8.5/10 for very different reasons. Because they are very different experiences.
I've watched the series alongside Season 3 three times now, and the best part about it is that there are things you realise every single time - scenes that made no sense, suddenly making sense, all throughout the series. For instance, when you find out the reason Mirana's father has dementia, it's horrifying. This is the one thing I just don't really get, though - why was the day of her mother's passing important, why did it affect Mirana when it hit, and why did it kill her father? As I previously implied, I know why he knows things about the universe and past universes that you wouldn't expect unless you piece together, but this scene still gets a little lost in translation for me.
So I’m on book 3 episode 2 and I’m wondering what makes the chaos dragon so powerful. I can’t remember how to spell his name, but the dude in the black armor used chaos dragons to make armor so Why does it seem like they’re so much stronger than all the other dragons because as far as I can tell the chaos dragon seems to be so much stronger. I know that the eight dragons are avatars so I don’t understand why it seems like the chaos dragon is so much stronger than the others almost like he isn’t weak as much as the others are when outside of their normal plane of existence.
This is my 5th watch through of Dota and I asked if she was interested in watching it on a whim. Essentially her entire and only experience with Dota has been through this anime.
She is not a gamer. She basically has a computer that she plays the sims on maybe an hour or 2 a week.
She's never seen anything dota before in her life. She's never played a MOBA, never seen anyone play a MOBA.
I thought it'd be a great idea to show the anime to her blind, not tell her anything other than I liked it. I asked she said sure why not.
When ended up binging through the episodes at her pace and finishing it in about a week, and a half.
Here's what she thought about it.
She liked it. It was pretty good and engaging and it grabbed her attention enough to keep us attached to the screen each episode, and excitingly putting the next episode on.
Her favorite characters ended up being Marci, Luna and Filomena.
She really enjoyed Luna's character arc, and she was super sad when Marci died, and wanted Marci back. She was quite happy when Marci was in the 3rd season.
She did express that the pacing was quite fast, and it was a bit of a jampacked show, while still having a story that gets every bit it needs to in. I don't blame her, because it is one of the small issues with the show is that the entire thing is quite quickly paced and there is a universe of lore being detailed and built super quickly, all while following this intense story.
Her words were that we would need to watch it again but she liked it.
She also appreciated the sheer amount of very powerful women in this anime. And I definitely agree witht his. Like, people asked, dota delivered, holy hell.
Me personally this is my 5th watch through of the anime and I really can't help it, but want to watch it again. Filomena's part is so fantastic to watch, and Mirana is such a great character. Watching her turn from meek self exile into legitmate bad ass with a hard choice to make, it's fantastic.
Filomena getting the last word, the last say, what a marvelous character and marvelous end for the series.
I think Filomena may be the one thing about the anime I've accidentally skewed for her, because it was very obvious to my gf that I really really like Filomena's character and how incredible she is. I couldnt hide that very well.
I think in any of the 12403 realities created by Invoker, Davion and Fymryn could be together.
The story of dragons blood is over. But, there may be another series, which, in fact, may already be in production. Valve never announces anything until it's released. If there's going to be a new Dota story in the same vein as Dragons Blood, which story would you want, and why?
One of the most beautiful quotes I've ever heard in television, and in one of the most tragic contexts. Not going to provide the name of who said it, just watch the show to its end. I simply wanted to pay tribute to the writing.
So last night I finished this amazing show and I really liked it, but I'm still a little upset with the ending and most of season 3. For me season 1 was a really good introduction, season 2 was amazing and the best of all in my opinion, but season 3 disappointed me a bit compared to season 1 and 2, many things happened that seemed unnecessary, starting with what I hated the most which obviously was >!Davion's death. I understand that the message of the series is "letting go for the better" and that kind of things like Mirana with Davion and the Invoker with his daughter, but I really didn't like how they left Davion dead or the concept of "heroic sacrifice", not only that but they displaced him to be a mere secondary character so that the protagonists could be Mirana and Filomena who I don't dislike, they're cool but they don't convince me as protagonists. Another thing that doesn't convince me is the reboot of the universe as if nothing that had happened in the previous seasons had really mattered, but I know that was the main idea of this season so I can understand it, in fact I thought they would take advantage of that new universe to revive the video game characters who died (Davion, Marci, Lina and Auroth) but sadly they didn't use that opportunity and only returned things to the way they were after they killed Terrorblade.!<
!I’m not a Dota 2 player (but I’m going to start playing it since I really liked this anime) so I don’t know much about Dota except the characters so I’d like to ask someone who knows more about the lore if there’s any realistic chance that Davion could somehow be revived after the ending. And I know Ashley Miller said that the story finished in book 3, but I would really love if they did a fourth season and Davion could be able to come back and just stay with Mirana and their child cuz I really think Davion deserved better and that would be a better ending for his story.!<
But I know most people are happy with the ending of the anime so please don’t be mad at me if you don’t think the same as me, that was just my humble opinion, I just wanted to talk about this incredible anime cuz I really liked it (even more than Arcane) and I hope that at some point in the future they surprise us with a fourth season.
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I’m surprised that they don’t make sets on Marci that refer to Avatar Korra, the set would be like a reference to Studio Mir, which made Dota Dragon’s Blood and Avatar The Legend of Korra itself, plus Marci ultimate ability can be considered partially as an entrance to the Avatar state. Several styles were possible at once ...
I don’t want to upset the fans of DOTA: Dragon's Blood (which I was before, i really like the show) It looks like there will be no continuation of the story... 2 years have passed and since then there has been deathly silence. Zero info, any teaser or mentioning or something related. Just nothing. Like everyone just forgot that Dragon's Blood even existed. Valve doesn’t seem to care at all what will happen next with this project for a while, or perhaps they stopped thinking about this project, apparently due to low views, and therefore a continuation with other heroes (Oracle, Windranger, Axe, Phantom Lancer, Tiny, Arc Warden) or even new ones or old characters, which is very sad. They could, even after the completion of Dragon’s Blood storyline, make projects in the universe not only with the Studio Mir, but also with other animation studios, but for some reason no one wants to do this, which make me really upset and probably we shouldn’t expect anything in the near future, but there is still a little hope in my heart because of recent Dota 2 event. (Crownfall)
What do you think? Can we expect new animated projects in the universe or is it better to forget about it? Maybe I'm too pessimistic or is everything said right? Tell me your thoughts please.
Hi, I've been watching the Dota series again and I love the music but I can't find many of the songs. Could someone tell me the name of the song that plays in the scene where Filomena tells her father that she is still sick in the last episode of season 3 (Min 13:10)? I can't find it anywhere. Or is there somewhere I can find the full soundtrack of season 3?
Yes, I chose meme-y wording for the title. But it describes my feeling toward the show and the reactions to it quite well. This show's dialogues were amazing, heartfelt, full of depth. The dynamics between the characters were excellently done. The voice acting was top notch. The soundtracks were excellent.
The increasing complexity of the plot (i.e the greater role that complex concepts like forging realities, the eldwyrms, the sun vs moon theme to Mirana's arc and basically all the cosmic stuff) was executed at absolute breakneck pace; this show was known for going fast especially from season 2 onward. And yet, amidst this, it was the characters and their most relatable feelings, struggles and motives that continued to occupy centerstage in terms of driving the plot. For example, grief at losing one's child resulting in the transformation of the universe itself and the downfall of a goddess.
That sort of stuff is just absolutely plain fucking brilliant and I refuse to let the excellence of this show stay unappreciated. Ashley Edward Miller's team had less time to deliver this show to us than they deserved, because oh boy were they brilliant.
I was absolutely hooked, and two years on I cannot stop feeling personally offended at how unappreciated this show remains.
Bot invasion?
Or at the very least, very low effort posting.
Post a single scene from the anime, title is practically just "look guys a character from the show :D", and one single comment from the OP.
So the Blood of Zeus got its second season after 4 years, so is there going to be a new season for Dota anime too?
How are they related? There's not even one mention of fundamentals, celestials or titans in dota series. Meanwhile Mirana's and DK's personas have voice lines related to fundamentals, celestials and Elder Titan specifically. Davion doubts that ET forged the world and says that eldwurms were the real pillar of creation. Slyrak says him that 'you never understood your place'. Davion also compares Enigma to pillars of creation (they're nothing compared to the thunder) while Mirana refers to them as The Void.
There's also someplace called Wyrmforge, from where The Fallen Sky weapon also originates. It is related to Titan somehow too, through lore of his set Warden of the Wyrmforge Shard (previously Warden of the Gong which is interesting).
Does dota: dragon's blood takes place in some kind of alternative universe? It isn't canon obviously but it's still dota. There's Ancients, Zet and Primordial Mind. What place could other cosmical and celestial beings take in the series?
so how did mene go mad the first time selemene keeps saying that. and why wore there 2 moons