Just finished S2E10 and at first I thought the death of Kirkman's wife was funny with how sudden it was but holy crap seeing Kirkman collapse was wild.

Probably this has been discussed already, but initially I liked the idea of Tom Kirkman being an independent president. They liked to show him originally as a fiscally conservative, socially liberal President (and being myself someone of those ideological leanings, it sounded amazing). But as the show went on, I saw how it really was a liberal show. Kirkman ended up a liberal in the style of Jed Bartlett, which is something acceptable (after all, he served in the HUD under a Democratic White House), but don’t portray yourself as a centrist if so. He usually sided more with the Democrats than with the Republicans on the debates, they portrayed the Democratic leaders like Diane Hunter, Eleanor Darby (at least at the beginning) or Aaron Shore himself as good while Republicans such as Jack Bowman or James Royce were the bad guys. Cornelius Moss started off as an interesting figure, but when they revealed us he was a Republican, something that went unmentioned when he was one of the good guys, he became this far-right extremist.

All of Kirkman’s VPs: MacLeash, Darby and Aaron were Democrats. And in the presidential election, he was the de facto democratic candidate, because we never saw Porter (who was portrayed as a businessman, more associated with conservatism). We only saw Kirkman, who was more liberal, with Aaron, versus Moss, who was the Republican one.

It is a shame because the premise of the show was good.

NETFLIX YOU HAVE OUTDONE YOURSELF, YOU HAVE TURNED A PERFECTLY GOOD FUCKING SHOW INTO A PILE OF STEAMING HOT SMELLY DOG SHIT STUCK ON THE UNDERSIDE OF MY SHOE!!

FIRSTLY. Why in the absolute fuck was there SO MANY DIFFERENT PLOTS, MOST OF THEM HAVING NO FUCKING RELATIONS TO THE SHOW. Except for the Hannah wells bio terror plot and the normal presidency part where he campaigns, A GOOD 3/4 OF THE SEASON IS HORRID. AND WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS THAT LOVE TRIANGLE.

SECONDLY, WHY THE FUCK WERE THERE 2 BIG BUFF MEN FUCKING EACHOTHER ON A BED ON MY SCREEN. I WATCH THIS SHOW WITH MY FUCKING IMMIGRANT PARENTS. I can’t think of 1 SINGLE MOMENT in season 1 or 2 where there was nudity. AND ALL OF A FUCKING SUDDEN I SEE THIS BS.

FINALLY WHERE THE FUCK DID MY KING LYOR GO, HE WAS LIKE TOP 3 IN THIS FUCKSHIT SERIES AND THEY MADE HIS ASS DISSAPEAR.

THE ONLY GOOD PART OF THIS SHOW WAS THE FUCKING ELECTION PART, AND THAT HAD LESS THAN PROBABLY 15 MINUTES OF SCREEN TIME IN EVERY GOD DAMN FUCKING EPISODE.

NETFLIX DO BETTER!!😭

EDIT: ALSO WHY THE FUCK DID SETH SWEAR SO MUCH!! AND WHY WERE ALL THE CAPTIONS WRONG, I HAD TO TURN THEM OFF BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY WERE SO FUCKING OFF FROM WHAT THE ACTORS SAID

I was forcing myself thru the third season, like ‘I’ve come too far to give up now!’

I have never been so disgusted with a show as I was when they played that stupid song when Hannah died. Seriously it was just dumb & crazy annoying.

Is it just me, or was that bad even for season 3?

If the government gave McLeish a bronze star and covered up the war incident, why would he turn against them and become a True Believer? In fact, the government protected him right? Furthermore, what was the reason his unit wanted to kill Lozano, it wasn’t his fault that the warlord turned against their unit? He was in fact also CIA, what was the reason the unit wanted to kill him when they found that out?

Watching for the first time and wow I know the show sometimes doesn’t have the best acting but Sutherland’s reaction to hearing Alex died was amazing.

It's like they want to insert the word "FUCK" in every way possible. It's annoying, specially since it wasn't done in s1 and s2.

Does the word fuck increase ratings?

So, just finished Season 1 & 2, being a bit hesitant for Season 3 due to hearing it's not as good. But, I decided to rewatch the pilot episode and a few random episodes of Season 1. If there's one thing I had to say that I wasn't a fan of, was how Kirkman immediately transforms into Jack Bauer with the Ambassador in the first episode. It was a bit jarring, seeing a guy who just became President, clearly shaken up by it and overwhelmed (evident when throwing up in the bathroom and few scenes prior), then getting possessed by the ghost of Jack Bauer and easily talks his way through it.

We're expected to believe the man has no Presidential qualities, nor is he equipped to being President, but he seemed to glide his way through it. Sutherland does an amazing job when scenes of him being uncertain or overwhelmed with what's happening, but goes a bit too far regarding all this.

Sorry if it doesn't make sense, just wanted to share this.

Imo the show fell off really hard but Hannah Wells has been a bad Character since Episode 1.
The Casting is awful. Im sorry im sure Maggie Q is a great actor but nobody can tell me that a short thin women can throw around people like she does. The entire lone wolf stuff is also so incredibly annoying.

She is supposedly working for the White House and she still goes and hunts down supposedly terrorists alone, or tbf with 1(one) Secret Service Agent? Shouldnt she have way more Agents at her disposal?

Also the entire Damian plot was just annoying why would she trust him after he worked for the russians?Shes working for the white house and letting a literal foreign spy work for them as far as i am aware Espionage is a Capital offense so how can somebody who should be on Death Row still be trusted like this?

I feel like the screenwriters watched The Blacklist saw Tom and Elizabeth Keens plotline and decided to copy it just way way way worse.

Season 3 went very downhill. I loved season 1&2, but 3 was too much yet nothing at the same time. Agent wells isn't even related to the storyline, the lgbtq premise feels forced, it's not following the original line, it's getting too personal and slowed down ALOT. They should have just left it alone.

In s3 ep2 was that an intentional nod to 24 when he's talking to his daughter and the brand name of the helmet was BAUER?

African Violet Mentos - Lyor

Why did lyor get cut off?? I thought he did way better than Mars.

I just finished season 1. Thought it was pretty good but I am wondering : will we know in S2 why was Kirkman specifically chosen designated survivor by the conspiracy ?

I thought it was a good plot but now I am a little frustrated we don’t have the answer at the end.

I just started watching season 1 and the actor reminds me of someone who was recently (2016 to present) in either the senate or house and their name is totally escaping me! They had a similar fashioned dark hair with blueish greenish eyes and it’s bothering me so much I can’t remember it and hoping someone here can think of it.

Why would Tom say " running again " ?

He didn't run the first time he ended up being President.

He had a gun and approached her with it. Wouldn't that fall under self-defense?

Her mom broke the law and a secret account was opened in her name.

I understand it was 30 years ago, but I feel like the show wants us to feel bad for her. Are we? Am I missing something?

I am so mad with Emily for multiple reasons. First fuck the damn elections, who goes back to doesn’t matter how important job you have when you just lost your mother? Also what did she expect Tom to do in the 11th hour? A person who is running for president had his biggest donor and his chief strategist developing bioweapons and he didn’t even know about it? Well then he should definitely not be the president. She who has taken bad decisions after bad decisions screwed things up just because it wasn’t her dilemma

She spent the entire show making morally dubious, politically expedient errors that posed real issues for kirkman, even as she was parading around the first 2 seasons claiming how it was her job to protect the president and make sure no one slips up. he let her by every time.

Then the final episode rolls around and she learns about Pegasus and he decides to not release it (which logically speaking, he didn’t know about the tapes, or where they came from, he did nothing inherently illegal, just morally dubious) and he chose to hold them for his own political gain.

But somehow this makes him a terrible person she can’t stand by any more? After breaking the law multiple times for political gain?

I liked the first two seasons but I think Netflix really scuffed the ending

A pretty good show! It was deeply flawed, but still real good. I wish so deeply that peter macleish had stuck around for more than the first half of season one

Not how you spell "Captain."

She never seemed to have anything under control and Aaron knew DC inside out. Season 2 should’ve had Aaron be CoS, not Emily.

Well it’s my opinion after watching Designated Survivor episode after episode for a span of a week, that the reason they cancelled after 3 seasons it’s because of the way season 3 started and possibly the casting off of Agent Wells. I was sad to see her die off. But the spin off of season 3 from a campaign to a bio terror threat to the 🌈 coalition of showing porn and an emotionally breakup and inputting a very heartfelt life of what it feels to loose a love one when he or she has an illness.

No they could had left out the 🌈 coalition community out of season 3, maybe there would be a season 4 or 5. And played that in 4 or 5. Well this was just my opinion, watching the last episode of what could had been a greater show.

I did love Michael J Foxes partake in the show, He made me laugh, S3 E10 watching it for the first time and the last time, great show Kiefer Sutherland. Good choice on Micheal J Fox. 🦊

We see Dax gifting a miniature of his car to the president, who places it in the oval office. Dax could see whatever was happening in the office. So when Kirkman ordered a search in his office, why doesn't Dax see that coming.

started binge watching last week and finally got through season 3 today. loved season 1, ridiculous and entertaining. season 2 was fine until my fave character second to wells was killed off randomly. season 3 i fast forwarded through as much as i could except for the bioterror plotline. netflix taking over really ruined the show for me, i was already sad about the season 2 death. anyway, just wanted to rant and get this out of my system. going to try to find something else to watch now!

Kimble Hookstraten was my absolute favorite character and it is an absolute shame how they cut her character off after season 1. She was the most complex antagonist of the whole show and I was looking forward for her to make her threat "loyal until the first presidential election" true.

idk if i’m jumping the gun here but I really don’t like her so far. it’s like she constantly thinks and says the wrong things all the time. in 1x15 she says “i’m not good at the submissive wife role” and it’s like no one has asked you to be submissive… just stop interfering with the literal government 😭

even her being perplexed by tom not being able to tell her information. like duh! I just don’t get the purpose of her character in this sense. i’m surprised she was written this way, rather than a powerhouse first lady or something