My club gets a pretty steady stream of looky-loos who leave disappointed that their new double action revolver/ modern-design lever action rifle isn't officially CAS legal.

It gives me a thought... What if there was a "space cowboy" division where the rules were: ANY revolver with 5 rounds (maybe expected to reload on the stage?) ANY non-autoloading pistol-caliber rifle with 10 rounds max ANY unloaded non-semi shotgun (this would basically just open it up to 3-gun pumps like Benelli Novas, so I might want an additional rule; maybe a low magazine capacity) Typical SASS ammo rules would apply

I don't know if it'd even be that different in speed from a conventional CAS load out, especially if you had to reload revolvers on the clock.

I'd even be inclined to allow optics, lasers, whatever, go crazy.

What'd you think?

Howdy all,

I'm a late 20s person getting back into firearms after not owning for about 5 years (been abroad). I'm currently budgeting and planning, but later in the year I'm considering getting into cowboy action shooting. I had a few questions that I wanted to ask if that's ok:

1. Anyone know any matches or organizations in southern VT, southwestern NH, or northwestern MA? I live in windham county vt.

2. Do groups meet regularly to practice or socialize, or do people just meet for the actual competitions? I'm sure some people practice alone but I'd love a group if they exist.

3. How many guns are absolutly required to start? Do I need 2 revolvers, a shotgun, and a lever gun, or can I start with just one revolver? I don't have the budget for 4 guns on top of the hunting guns I want this year.

4. I'm considering a new ruger blackhawk in 357 with an addition 9mm cylinder. It also has adjustable sights and a transfer bar. Would that be acceptable to use, or would I need a different single action?

5. I read most either shoot 38 special, 45 long colt, or another cartridge that is period accurate. How about 22lr? I could poentialy afford a second revolver but probably only In that caliber.

6. Are competitions closed to the public normally, or could I go and watch/ask questions during my first time?

7. How stable does your alias have to be over time? Can you come up with basic details and flush them out over time, or do you need to have a firmly established name, story, and personality from the get go?

8. How authentic do the costumes have to be? Do they need to be made of period correct materials? Are plastic buttons on a jacket an issue? Right now all i have are button down shirts, a wool jacket, wrangle jeans, and a banana, so ill definitely need a hat and boots at least.

9. As I said, I'm a younger person, so I didn't grow up with westerns like a lot of folks in this hobby seem to have. That said i like a lot of the ones ive seen. Any recommendations for westerns I should see to relate with others in the crowd? I've seen the new true grit, the good the bad the ugly, hostiles, old henry, the hateful 8, and Django.

Thank you for your help!

Some numbers came to my attention recently:

1. 1887- this is the year the 22lr came onto the market. The 22 short came on the market in 1857! These rounds have legit "cowboy" period credentials, far more than most.

2. 37 FPE- this is around the minimum power of a SASS-legal 38 Special; a 105 grain bullet at 400 fps out of a revolver. It is about HALF of the energy a 22lr can provide out of a revolver; a 60 grain subsonic in a 5" barrel is around 800 fps, which comes to 85 FPE.

So why are 22lr's only allowed for children?

How many clubs out there are endangered due to high cost of entry? 22lr can cut the cost of revolvers and rifles by half, and can save even more than that on ammo prices.

So I'm all for allowing 22lr to compete alongside the 38's and 45's. Why not?

(I do think there ought to be a major and minor division, and the most mousefarty 38 loads should be competing alongside 22lr in the minor division.)

I'm getting ready to get my second revolver. For my off hand should i get a regular holster or a cross draw? I'm undecided as both look cool to me.

Recommendations for a bulk buy for the .357 Vaquero?

I'm wanting to shorten my 1887 stock, and to put a curved half-moon shape onto the butt, to make it easier to hold it against my shoulder with just my support hand. Either by installing a curved "trap" recoil pad, or by cutting the stock into a half-moon shape like what steel-butted rifles have.

Would this be legal?

Rules book says: "The length or style of stock may be altered or replaced (e.g., a carbine style stock may be interchanged for a rifle stock and vice-versa)."

"A permanently fitted, non-adjustable, lace on, or slip on recoil pad is allowed on the buttstock of rifles and shotguns."

"Butt-plates may be changed to a butt-plate style that was generally available from the original manufacturer."

"Grips or stocks of synthetic or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms."

So would this be a "target" stock or "of the same basic shape as the original"? Would this be a butt plate not "of the general style available from the manufacturer"?

If a curved stock wasn't allowed, it seems like a "recoil pad" could be any shape at all?

Does anyone know if the wood stock H&R lever guns will be accepted during cowboy action shoots? Obviously the sight would have to be swapped (it's a modern ring sight), but what about the other features?

I posted a couple of days ago about getting my first single action. I planned on taking it shooting this weekend, and decided to read the manual before going out. That was when I discovered my "wedge" was in the "open" position, I decided to put it in th eclose position and couldn't by hand. So, I grabbed a small mallet with a plastic end and drove in to fully closed. Now my cylinder won't rotate smoothly, and it's actually rather hard for about 1/3 of the rotations. I've tried putting the wedge back into the position it came, but it still won't rotate smoothly.

Here is the section of the manual https://imgur.com/a/h0n6Cqi When I recieved it it was in the position shown at the bottom of the image. Should I try to disassemble and reassemble?

Thank you

I have a nice set of roper boots, but at my range, we all help set up the targets. This involves lugging around around the steel targets. I usually just wear running shoes, but the range is very dusty so I thought I might as well fit the part and put on my ropers. Well I don't know what it is, but maybe just the way they fit, it made me oddly feel terrified that I was going to drop a target on my feet.

I checked online and saw some steel toed cowboy boots. They looks basically like ropers.

I was wondering if anyone else has thought about that at all? I'm thinking that if I were an actual working cowboy I would love steel toed boots!

What holster recommendations do you have?

Hello.. I have 2 Cimmaron 45 colt 1872 Open Tops. I have tried in vain to find shorter barrels for them. Might someone have 2 for sale? I'd love the 4.75" but would suffice with the 5.5".

..OR.. Might someone be able to direct me to a gunsmith who can correctly shorten them?

Where can I find pearl grips ?

Howdy folks, was readin the SASS rules as im lookin to start in the next year or so, but ran into somethin that confused me about the catagories. So I see that tehre is Classic and B-Western right, Now sadly I am poor, and as such, id much rather have Rossi/Heritage 92 instead of having to buy an expensive Henry/66/73. What gets me here, is that it seems like I can't be like say a turn of the century cowboy clothes wise. As my rifle would put me in 1890s at the earliest, Id love to have a Red Dead Redemption, Butch/Sundance, Klondike Gold Rush era vibe right, like that seems to be right historically. But reading the guidlines, it seems like if you want to use a 92 or a Marlin 94 or even something earlier like a Colt Lightning or Burgess, it instantly makes it so you have to basically be Roy Rogers. So my question is like yeah if I show up with my converted 58 Remington, Beretta Stampede, Stevens 311, and a Winchester 92 clone sayin like "Im headin up to the Yukon, gonna make my fortune like my granpappy did in '49" and dressed like a i would be dressing according to the dress code of Classic Cowboy, will I be told "excuse me sir you need to dress like Marty in Back to the Future 3" Im assuming not? I figure the sport is inviting and theyll just be like "yeah sure thing pal I hope you have fun!"

Hey yall. New to cowboy action. Been interested in SASS and CAS for a while but never tool the plunge. So far my firearms are almost all milsurp. I've had my eye on a henry big boy ii in 45LC for a year or so at my LGS that just hasn't sold. It's the cowboy 2 edition, with the cowboys painted on the buttstock and forestock. Listed for about $750. I know that's below market, thinking it's priced that way since it hasn't sold. Yall consider this a good buy? Any practical application, such as hunting? I've read mixed messages about whether it's capable as a hunting rifle. Thanks

Hey guys, I am shipping my Pietta Great Western II to a grips manufacturer to get fitted for a new grip (but can't do so unless I disassemble). They said that for precise fitting, they just need the back-strap and trigger guard.

Would anyone with a Pietta GWII be willing to make a quick disassembly video showing how to remove those two components? I'm sure it's common sense, but I just don't want to screw anything up.

Thank you!

Looking to get a pair of wheel guns to get into CAS. Looking for something reasonably priced that can put through some heavy use. Any recommendations?

I have a Ruger Wrangler that when I bring it to half cock the cylinder gets stuck and the hammer jams. When I bring it to a full cock it works every time. Anyone have any ideas?

Hi All,

Live in Sweden and recently bought a Winchester 1897 pump-action shotgun (takedown version).

While cleaning I managed to drop the Cartridge Guide Screw which cannot be replaced here in Sweden (the 97 is ultra-rare here, and due to customs laws I cannot order one online from the US). Does anyone have any experience of jerry-rigging the function? Like if there is a commercially available screw with the same threading that can be filed down in length. I am not too concerened with aesthetic, just want my gun to cycle...

Appreciate any insights!

A fire burns in my heart for a trapper carbine, and the Rossi 92 .45 fits the bill enough, but when it comes to CAS, it only has 8 in the tube. Was wonderin does anyone know how the capacity would change if I loaded shorter Cowboy Special brass?

Forgive me if this post is rather unfocused, I just purchased the gun, and have a couple of questions. I figured that the people who do Cowboy Action Shooting know these guns better than just about anyone in the world. (I alas have yet to partake in the hobby)

First off: After having test-fired the gun, I noticed that the dimple on the primers of the spent cartridges was always off-center. I have heard, in the past, that this could be a sign of timing issues. The gun is brand new, and I any other signs of it, but I figure its worth asking about regardless

Secondly: As I understand, the uberti schofields have a hammer block that at best makes the action less smooth, and at worst causes actual issues. I know a lot of people have those removed. Is that a process that a novice can handle themselves, or is a gunsmith necessary?

Thank you