/r/Counterpart

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Subreddit for the critically acclaimed STARZ series starring J.K. Simmons.

Series premise: A hapless UN employee discovers the agency he works for is hiding a gateway to a parallel dimension that's in Cold War with our own, and where his other self is a top spy. The war slowly heats up thanks to spies from both sides.

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Looking for advice on continuing watching the show

Hi, I've been watching season 1 of the show, and just finished episode 7. I usually don't like western tv shows, and watched this one because I'd heard so many good things about it. The thing is though, that I've been dragging myself along up until now, and I'm just wondering if maybe anyone here could tell me if it's just not for me, or if there's some major change coming in the last few episodes of the season that might make it worth it for someone who hasn't been enjoying it so far.

I'm not saying any of this to be incendiary ofc, I genuinely would want to like the show. Grateful for any insight!

21 Comments
2024/09/30
14:11 UTC

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Funds

Howdy. I just did a second watch and i wondering where did they get the money to build everything?

Like even how Indigo was funded. You see them with machine guns and stuff.

Also Pope.Where also did they get the money? Did he work at one point for the office of interchange?

2 Comments
2024/09/20
00:07 UTC

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Anyone else enjoying Constellation on Apple TV?

Anyone else enjoying Constellation on Apple TV? Yet another show playing with ideas of alternate realities and also quantum mechanics (Dark Matter was also inspired by quantum mechanics' Schrodinger's cat). It's quite good I think, pretty thrilling and enthralling and demanding a lot of attention to follow the plot. Beautifully made.

7 Comments
2024/08/29
05:08 UTC

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Season 1 ep10 - I am so confused.

So in the beginning of the show, the side that had boring Silk & injured Emily, is the side with Quayle and Aldrich..well call that side A.

Prime Silk then starts coming over to side A and eventually the Silks switch place. Boring Silk is now on the “other side” with healthy Emily and Shaw (Side B), working and eventually discovered the house where the kids were being trained to infiltrate the other side (A). Three assassins cross over to Side A and eventually shoot the work place up.

After this happens the Asian boss from Side B told Emily and Shaw he was preparing a condolence letter and they advised against it.

Management from 4th floor called a meeting and the director on Side A asked Quayle to be there with him. He said “from upstairs”.

I am soo confused because the asian boss, Emily & Shaw from Side B are at the table too?? Aren’t they from the side where the assassins came from??? Why are they at the table all of a sudden, seeming like they are apart of Side A? Did they cross and it wasn’t shown & it’s a meeting between the two sides? Or have I been mixed up this whole season?

11 Comments
2024/08/28
23:19 UTC

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Counterpart, Homecoming & Severance: connecting universes to provide successive seasons we never got

I realize this sub doesn't get much activity but as a fan of the show, I'd like to offer a little headcanon that I've developed.

I suggest that any fans of Counterpart also watch the shows Homecoming and Severance and view them as taking place in the same universe. Think of them as answers to the question: If the world of Counterpart has UN agencies like The Office of Interchange, what sort of companies would be out there and what might they be up to?

Severance especially deals with the notion of what makes you you and the duality of one's nature and, thematically, is in line with Counterpart. Functionally, the show was filmed during the COVID-19 pandemic and feels empty as a result, in the same way that the "Prime" world of Counterpart does. It's also a show that's color-graded to with cool tones and matches the blues & greens of Howard-Prime's world. Homecoming, by contrast, was filmed/released pre-pandemic and seems just as normal as Howard-Alpha's world. Additionally, that show is color-graded in very warm-tones. Because there were no pandemic restrictions during filming, scenes show actors interacting normally, no social distancing, etc. just as the people in the Alpha world do.

An alternative way to look at these shows is to think of Homecoming as taking place before >!Mira successfully unleashed the virus on the Alpha world!< and Severance takes place after >!that virus progressed to the level of a pandemic!<.

...

Neither of these shows are spy thrillers but they are thrillers nonetheless —the season 1 finale for Severance is easily the most heart-pounding, most gripping, most edge-of-your-seat season finale you will ever see and all it is is a bunch of people talking to one another in various places: no bombs, no gun fights, no violence— and is kind of a fun way to think of getting more to the story, albeit covering different ground.

5 Comments
2024/08/28
16:59 UTC

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Young HoD

! Attention: spoilers for s1e7 and earlier episodes

The director on this character after the titles in s1e7: "He's good at his job, and the reason for that is he's smart, he's resourceful".

Meanwhile that young head of strategy department who got there coz of nepotism:

  • uses the same password for smartphone and safe with top secret documents
  • Doesn't know what happens under his nose which is pointed out by that other old guy from lvl2
  • Couldn't care to properly throw the cigars out or at least close the table.

So, what we have is a mix of hypocricy and unprofessionalism from the series' creators. He's both unprofessional, not smart (he's only smart for a pre-school kid, but he's an adult and HEAD OF STRATEGY, which requires some unreal accuracy and attention to details to get to as we are shown in the very start of the 1st episode), which makes the director's words hypocrisy AND the script is edited the way it suits the continuation of the show, which is awful and is seen in the 1st or 2nd episode when that old guy "forgets" to tell his counterpart that he puts flowers into the nurses vase at the reception. A clear and a disgusting screenwriting crutch from the scenarists.

4 Comments
2024/08/20
16:17 UTC

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Counterpart ABSENT from all UK streaming -- how can i watch?

if Anyone knows of ANY way I can watch this series in the UK, please share! Desperate to see it as it sounds exactly what I will enjoy. It's not even on DVD here! Thanks for any help!

9 Comments
2024/08/06
10:10 UTC

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Who's watching Dark Matter on Apple TV?

This show comes close in many ways to the premise of Counterpart. Its also entirely different, not at all an imitation. If you enjoyed the ideas of alternate realities scratching your brain you may love this show. We're almost done the series and it's been an exhilarating ride!

17 Comments
2024/07/31
00:20 UTC

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Counterpart Season 2 on DVD

(Europe) I've been trying to get the second season on DVD for weeks, but so far I can only find super expensive offers... Do you have similar experiences?

Finding it generally difficult to get the physical copies of some, shall I say niche, series at the moment. Since the streamers are so much in focus, it seems to me that there is no longer any value placed on it anyway... I'm thinking of Patriot, Into the Night Sky and with The Americans, at least in Europe, it's not easy to get all the seasons without having to cut my holiday short. Ha!

Has anyone been lucky enough to get the second season on DVD? Any tips? Please don't recommend pirating - wink wink nudge nudge ;)

10 Comments
2024/07/24
16:14 UTC

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One of the best shows I’ve ever watched, and I still have 5 episodes to go.

Holy shit so I started smoking weed again for the first time in over 3 years recently as I’ve a few months to myself before I go travelling in September, so been binging some serious tv. Got to sci fi genre and I watched 12 monkeys and orphan black which were really good but I was looking for something a little deeper and this show has blown me away. Did season 1 over a couple of nights with my friend, and he was kinda on and off his phone wasn’t really watching properly, I’m a phone goes on silent mode for the entire night kinda guy.

But yeah, the emotion, the storytelling, it’s perfect television. And aside from how beautiful the story is, it’s just an absolutely badass concept that in all likelihood has happened somewhere further along our timeline. Got me really thinking about whether I’m existing alone in the universe or if there’s a different me that made different choices. Anyway this blunts hitting good so peace ✌️

E N D A P A R T H E I D N O W

7 Comments
2024/07/19
22:47 UTC

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Summary of events leading to the show?

I'm discovering the show, and in the middle of season 2. I think it's one of the very best shows I have ever seen. I was thinking about making a summary of the events that happened before season 1 starts (Lost, another show I love, has plenty of such material). Was that ever done?

3 Comments
2024/07/14
11:23 UTC

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A Show Similar to Counterpart.

A Show Similar to Counterpart is this 2018 show with J.K Simmons

Counterpart Season 1 Trailer Season 1 Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRuaNHLp6OU

3 Comments
2024/07/10
21:14 UTC

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Quick question: Is 'our world' the hypermodern looking one or is that 'their' world?

I'm only of S01E03, so no spoilers please. We get these urban scape transitions from each society. I've put a couple things together. 'Our' society has some modern tech like cellphones that the other doesn't and yet at the cross they're all using computers from the 20th century. Yet 'their' society has a mass epidemic, keeps things very sterile, but has cures for diseases 'ours' does not. So I'm not looking for a full run down, I'll figure that out for myself. But is 'our' world that landscape with soaring modern towers or is that 'there's'?

11 Comments
2024/06/16
21:42 UTC

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Just about to watch S2 finale...I'll never forget this show

Only learned about and started watching Counterpart in early May. Fought hard against bingeing it all at once and have made it to early June with still one episode left! About to start the series finale...I'll never forget this show!

15 Comments
2024/06/06
19:12 UTC

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For anyone else who still misses counterpart, Dark Matter and Constellation are 2 shows you should watch

Both on Apple TV - they both scratch that itch really well

9 Comments
2024/05/16
23:32 UTC

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Dark Matter Tv series 2024

How is it in comparison to counterpart. I haven't seen any shows since I watched counterpart.

31 Comments
2024/05/11
11:00 UTC

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Shadow's Identity

The build up to shadows identity, that whole episode, it's just absolutely brilliant. Walking back the cat from what was said about Shadow's insertion being urgently moved up, to Walter's death, with Indigo betting on his replacement, having to kill the right people, and just imagining that chain is just .. amazing.

It reminds me of a book/and damn good movie, The Company by Robert Littell, a master at the wilderness of mirrors.

0 Comments
2024/03/30
01:17 UTC

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Continuity error?

Watch when Emily and Ian go through the tunnel the first time, and pay special attention to who goes first and who goes second. Does anyone else see an error?

3 Comments
2024/03/24
18:25 UTC

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Does the series end on a cliffhanger?

Always so tough when you get into a show only for it just to stop.

11 Comments
2024/03/24
05:09 UTC

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Does the series end on a cliffhanger?

Always so tough when you get into a show only for it just to stop.

5 Comments
2024/03/24
05:09 UTC

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Apple's Constellation is Counterpart in space

It just screams Counterpart multiple ways. There is a literal scientific device called CAL that intiates an alternate version of the characters, it happens first during the Cold War period. The alternate characters are the same but with small differences in parallel multiverses. There is a government body aware of the duality that controls and regulates it. I think the creators saw that Counterpart was awesome and needed a third season, so they did Constellation instead!

3 Comments
2024/03/21
10:15 UTC

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Rewatching the Ending and JUST REALIZED

!The Howard's switched. Deep down, other Howard still had a little humanity left. He's already lost his Emily and daughter. He felt bad for our Howard having just lost his Emily. And so he chose to stay in our Howard's world and sent our Howard to the Emily he fell in love with and to the daughter he never had. WOW. That is beautiful.!<

I completely missed it when it was airing. And this makes these two seasons so much better now that I know. THAT is character development.

6 Comments
2024/03/15
20:45 UTC

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If there are people crossing all the time....

..Then what is the point in limiting the technology at the crossing? Am I missing something obvious?

I love this show so much, I'm a huge fan of Fringe, Travelers, and Severance so I've been wanting to watch it forever and it far exceeded expectations!

14 Comments
2024/02/16
05:31 UTC

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The cold war and beyond..

How much this show reflects the cold war is incredible. Instead of a wall there is a tunnel. I think Justin marks should write the third season as a movie. Once and for all, what happens to everyone. Do the worlds combine? Do they break from one another?

I could see a really wonderful movie that beautifully and rich is the storyline, and then provides grand closure. Perhaps a science experiment or an attempt to permanently sever the two results in recombination. Everyone in one world and destruction/loss of the tunnel.

I saw where he had commented that the third season was going to see the characters in a different location, wanting to open more tunnels, but I like reunification.

5 Comments
2024/02/02
05:14 UTC

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How did Mira get Emily's report (memo)?

Very late to the show (hadn't heard of it till recently) but just finished it and don't understand how the report about the origin of the virus (the "memo") from Alpha Emily got into the hands of Prime Mira. The only thing I can really think of is through her dad, Janek, being one of the original management group. Any ideas?

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2024/01/25
12:31 UTC

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NO FRICKIN' WAY!

Just finished it all and am reeling at how good the end was. I can't believe it was left with such an epic cliffhanger, I don't understand why there wasn't a third series optioned as it seems like there's so much they could have done with the plot line.

I don't think I've ever watched something with such a frustrating cliffhanger! I want to scream, how good it could have been!

24 Comments
2024/01/19
23:51 UTC

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Opening credits

I've just started watching Bodies an Netflix and am amazed of similar the the opening credits are in both music style and graphics. Anyone else notice this?

1 Comment
2023/12/22
21:00 UTC

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Just finished the show

Got drawn into this series quickly and have enjoyed binging through it, sad I didn't catch it when it was originally airing as I heard zero about it.

Did some excavation of past posts about it from when you all watched in real-time and I tend to agree with the theory that the Howard's switched places in the end. Emily Prime didn't want Howard Alpha to leave, Howard Prime had nothing to go back to on the other side, and Temple knew they'd switched which is why she offered him that job and mentioned the "if she were alive" thing. It's a much better cliffhanger for a show that's never coming back than if we had to see S3 of both Howards, the show got a bow put on it, but I generally am good with it.

Also, since the original plan for Howard Prime was to stick around the Alpha universe, he realized after he got Alpha's wife killed (and they weren't getting back together) that this was the right thing to give his counterpart, especially since he'd grown to master being on that side of the aisle. It's a good ending for sure. It's also why Howard Prime is looking back at the door as they're shutting it, realizing he wouldn't ever cross back (in theory.)

This show is up there for me as one of my favorites ever, the worldbuilding, imagined tech and general pacing were just so well done and imaginative.

7 Comments
2023/12/13
03:02 UTC

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Shogun Trailer - Justin Marks' new premieres in February on Hulu and FX

0 Comments
2023/12/09
21:05 UTC

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