/r/Cordials

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A place for users to share recipes and ask questions for and about homemade cordials, squashes, sodas, diluting juice, syrups and other homemade soft drinks. Anything that's usually created as a flavour syrup and added to water to create a drink, feel free to post it here!

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I asked ChatGPT to write me a recipe for Inca Kola and it said this, which has a vague ring of truth about it. But I spose it might be convincing rubbish...

Inca Kola is a popular soft drink from Peru, known for its sweet, bubblegum-like flavor and distinctive yellow color. While the exact recipe is a closely guarded secret, we can create a version that approximates its flavor profile based on the key ingredients and common flavor notes.

Inca Kola-Inspired Recipe

Ingredients:

  • **Carbonated water**: 1 liter (sparkling water or club soda)

  • **Sugar**: 1 ½ cups (or adjust to taste)

  • **Lemon verbena (or **Hierba Luisa**, a traditional flavor in Inca Kola)**: 1 tablespoon dried (or fresh leaves, if available)

  • **Vanilla extract**: 1 teaspoon (for sweetness and depth)

  • **Lime zest**: ½ teaspoon (for a citrusy note)

  • **Yellow 5 food coloring**: A few drops (for the characteristic color)

  • **Citric acid**: ¼ teaspoon (for tartness)

  • **Sodium benzoate**: ⅛ teaspoon (optional preservative to extend shelf life)

Instructions:

  1. **Make the Flavor Syrup**:

    • In a small saucepan, combine sugar and 1 cup of water. Bring it to a boil, stirring to dissolve the sugar.

    • Lower the heat and add lemon verbena leaves, vanilla extract, and lime zest. Simmer for about 10 minutes, allowing the flavors to infuse.

    • Strain the syrup to remove the leaves and zest, then let it cool to room temperature.

  2. **Add Citric Acid and Preservative**:

    • Once the syrup has cooled, stir in the citric acid to balance the sweetness with a bit of tartness.

    • If using, add sodium benzoate to act as a preservative.

  3. **Color the Syrup**:

    • Add a few drops of Yellow 5 food coloring to the syrup until it reaches the desired bright yellow color.
  4. **Combine with Carbonated Water**:

    • In a large pitcher or bottle, combine the flavored syrup with the carbonated water. A typical ratio is about 1 part syrup to 3-4 parts water, but you can adjust this based on your taste.
  5. **Chill and Serve**:

    • Refrigerate the drink for an hour or more to chill it properly.

    • Serve over ice and enjoy your homemade Inca Kola!

Notes:

  • **Lemon verbena** is key for achieving a similar flavor to Inca Kola, as it's often cited as one of the base ingredients.

  • The lime zest adds a subtle citrusy freshness, enhancing the lemon verbena and mimicking the unique profile of the soda.

  • The flavor is hard to pin down as it’s often described as a cross between bubblegum, cream soda, and citrus. This recipe aims to balance those elements.

Feel free to adjust the sweetness and tartness to your preference!

3 Comments
2024/10/22
08:31 UTC

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Always dissapointing

I have to say all my experiments making soda syrup of late have been disappointing. I tried to reverse engineer Inca Kola and I have good quality lemon verbena flavour but low quality supermarket orange, almond and vanilla. I'm guessing it's garbage in garbage out. I'm just not getting good flavour. Usually too weak or not sweet enough. I spose I'm answering my own questions but any wise tips?

6 Comments
2024/10/21
11:06 UTC

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Essence:Fresh Fruit (Equivalent Quantity Question)

I've been sent some samples for liquid fruit flavourings from a flavour house (UK). How I would go about establishing equivalent ingredient amounts to fresh fruit processes?

E.g. how would I determine how much Strawberry Flavouring would be equivalent to 400g/L of fresh Strawberries cooked into a 1:1 sugar syrup?

Each bottle says one of the following: Dose Level: QS Max Dosage: 0.13% RTD - 0.4% RTE Max Dosage: 0.59% RTE - 0.19% RTD Max Dosage: 0.5% RTD

The company who sent them hasn't been very helpful in expanding upon their usage, and haven't sent enough for me to feel like I can just experiment freely without worrying about running out before establishing next steps. I'd guess each mini bottle contains about 25ml of flavouring sample.

3 Comments
2024/10/18
08:32 UTC

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Pseudo Juice Calculator

Super juice is great stuff for making the most out of your citrus fruits - I even made a calculator for it here: https://cordials.info/super-juice

However, it doesn't tend to last that long due to the addition of the juice from the fruit - you may get a week at most in the fridge before it starts to go off.

A short while ago, Brian Tasch from https://www.corpserevived.com created "Pseudo Citrus", which is like super juice, but doesn't contain the juice from the fruits and, as such, lasts longer.

And I've gone and taken his method for creating it and built out another easy to use calculator called Pseudo juice: https://cordials.info/pseudo-juice

It's a really good way of maximising your citrus fruits and is almost impossible to tell apart from the real thing. Plus, you can use the juice from the fruits in any number of other things.

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2024/10/08
15:52 UTC

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Yuzu with a hint of lemon

Found some yuzu in a nearby Asian supermarket - wasn’t cheap, but it’s a delicious flavour and I wanted to see how it would work in a drink.

I made an oleo saccharum from the peel and mixed it with the juice.

I added 70ml to a litre of 3:2 simple syrup.

I then added 10ml of the super lemon essence (https://www.reddit.com/r/Cordials/comments/1fpvgwx/super_lemon_essence/) to round off the citrus aspect as it needed “something” to give it a lift.

In a word - zingy! It’s got an almost lemon sherbet taste to it and a delightful tartness. Definitely be adding this to my regular lineup (as long as I can find the fruit in the shop!)

2 Comments
2024/09/29
15:08 UTC

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Coca leaf extract for cola

Obviously, this is the 'big one' to make an authentic version of the infamous drink, but as the ingredient itself is illegal, people have been trying to find alternatives that have a similar flavour profile (minus the highly addictive illegal ingredient).

These are the two that I've found give you the best flavour when added to a cola mix.

  1. Sencha. 100g of sencha macerated in 100ml of alcohol gives you a pretty decent approximation of cod leaf extract.
  2. Yerba mate and bay leaf. 70g Yerba mate and 30g bay leaf macerated in 100ml alcohol gives you a very strong bitter extract that works well to give you a 'coca & kola' flavour when paired with kola nut extract.

You'll need to taste test it yourself to find the ideal amount to add, but I've found around 30ml added to the same stage of the 1910 cola recipe as the kola nut extract gives you a pretty decent 'coca' flavour.

8 Comments
2024/09/28
08:17 UTC

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Super lemon essence

Not even sure what to call this aside from lemon²…

I’ll be using it in a high powered lemonade soon, but I suspect you won’t have to use much.

To make this, I took 3 unwaxed lemons and finely grated the zest. I added the same weight of citric acid as zest and added an equal volume of 95% alcohol. This was left to macerate for 2 weeks.

The lemon juice was squeezed and then frozen for later use.

After the 2 week maceration was over, I added the defrosted lemon juice and blended the mix to get the last of the oils from the zest.

Finally, the whole lot was filtered to clarify the extract. The photo was taken part way through the filtering. I’ve ended up with around 150ml in total.

It’s an absolutely gorgeous lemon yellow liquid that smells like limoncello on steroids.

8 Comments
2024/09/26
12:54 UTC

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Lime Champagne

7 Comments
2024/09/23
11:15 UTC

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Spending a week with extended family, so have taken some samplers of regular cordials and some “experimental” ones.

In this lineup are:

*blackcurrant & liquorice

  • cherry limeade
  • lime champagne
  • lemonade
  • lemon & lime
  • passionfruit & coconut
  • cola
  • iron tonic
  • root beer
  • sarsaparilla
2 Comments
2024/09/20
10:12 UTC

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Autumn flavors, sour apple, apple and elderberry

7 Comments
2024/09/18
18:18 UTC

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Okay yeah, I got all the ingredients ... er what what? Powdered Pumice Stone?!?

16 Comments
2024/09/16
22:40 UTC

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Dissolving cream of tartar

I tried adapting this recipe https://homemadesodaexpert.blogspot.com/2011/10/recipe-14-homemade-mountain-dew-sun.html that uses cream of tartar as an acid. However, it always recrystallizes in the fridge. I've tried dissolving it cold and boiling it, and get the same result either way. The flavor is good, but i'm worried i'm missing the intended taste because of the lack of acid.

Is there any way to prevent this? The blog post doesn't give any special instructions on dissolving it

5 Comments
2024/09/14
22:11 UTC

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Inca Kola and other Champagne Kola variants

Apologies if this is a FAQ or an annoying restatement of stuff you already know, but I'm new here and haven't read everything yet.

I've been avidly reading the Iron Brew/Irn Bru posts from u/vbloke with considerable interest. I've been interested in these "champagne kola" type drinks for a while now, but it's only very recently I realised they were a group. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_cola

There are variants with a similar flavour in Scotland, Peru, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Norway and Pakistan, and a few other besides, but mostly in the Caribbean or South America. The first were in 1901 and 1902 in Scotland and Puerto Rico respectively, but then in 1935 expat Englishman Joseph Robinson Lindley made Inca Kola in Peru, which is by far my favourite.

https://preview.redd.it/l1becetddkod1.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a3d9d0fa4eeb99726faebe194247768e1bec20d

It is however *really expensive* to ship here to the UK so I have it really infrequently. I wish there was a way I could make my own syrup, so u/vbloke if you have any sage insights I'll be happy to hear them. Only nugget of info I have is it contains Lemon Verbena, which might come into it.

Sidebar: I am now on a quest to taste all the other champagne kolas out there. I just found that Barr (makers of Irn Bru) also make a champagne kola variant called KA Karibbean Kola. It's got caramel in it so it looks like cola, but it's a brown champagne kola or Irn Bru-alike to the taste. I found a couple of bottles hiding in the fridge of a local Asian corner shop. Score!

https://preview.redd.it/8wmx7ttgdkod1.jpg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f137c4d76235e4faa982ae17b47d67c7e7e343dc

Thanks guys and LOVING YOUR WORK.

28 Comments
2024/09/13
11:43 UTC

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Any copy cat recipes for Sprecher Puma Kola?

I know most members here are UK based but this Cola is one of the best I've ever had. Curious if you guys have it there and can think of a copy cat recipe. I think it uses kola nut, cinnamon, vanilla. Any ideas or suggestions would be great thanks!

1 Comment
2024/09/08
23:55 UTC

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Raspberry vinegar

Hey all, one of my favourite breweries here in Australia makes my favourite raspberry cordial ever. I was just wondering if anyone would have any suggestions on how I could make it at home? It contains real vinegar. I'm just not to sure on the ratios to need or use.

5 Comments
2024/09/08
03:05 UTC

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Passion fruit & coconut

This one you may need to adjust to your own taste, but it's a worthwhile thing to do, as this drink is a thing of tastebud beauty.

I took 100g of shredded coconut and mixed it with 100ml of 95% alcohol in a jar for a few weeks to extract that coconut deliciousness. After about 6 weeks, it was very carefully filtered and stored in a cool, dark cupboard.

Then, I took the pulp from about 6 passion fruits and mixed it with an equal weight of sugar to form a syrup. After 24 hours, I added a small amount of water and pressed the pulp through a fine cheesecloth to extract as much juice as possible. The syrup was then frozen and the remaining pulp was soaked in an equal volume of alcohol to extract even more flavour.

After a couple more weeks, the passion fruit extract was mixed into the frozen syrup and allowed to age for a few days.

I made a 750ml batch of 3:2 simple syrup with a dash of citric acid (around 1.5g) and mixed in about 10ml of coconut extract and 50ml of passion fruit syrup. After a good shake and a taste test, I added a dash more passion fruit syrup so the coconut didn't overpower it too much. It took a a few more drips and drops to get the balance just right, but this drink is now bringing a last bit of summer to some grey and rainy UK days.

2 Comments
2024/09/06
13:30 UTC

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Pineapple oleo saccharum

Had an idea for a pineapple and passionfruit cordial, so am making oleo saccharum for both and then mixing them to get a perfect balance of flavour.

Once the sugar has done its work and the pulp has been strained, I’ll be adding the leftover pulp to some alcohol and propylene glycol to extract any remaining flavour and mixing the extract with the oleo for a big flavour boost.

4 Comments
2024/09/05
11:32 UTC

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Crodino Recipe? / Big up Vbloke!

Love this sub! Been great watching it grow so quickly! Nice work Vbloke!

I was wondering if anyone had tried to make an italian aperitif cordial... love having these non-alcoholic Crodinos (made by Campari) when in Italy... but they're mad expensive over here!

https://www.crodino.com/en-gb/how-its-made/

Would love to hear if anyone has had any luck making something similar

13 Comments
2024/09/02
16:41 UTC

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Finally getting around to organising all my recipe scraps into something more readable.

So far, it’s been post-it notes, scraps of paper and random bits of cardboard. About time I got all the ideas sorted.

Volume 1 is everything I’ve had ideas about and potential recipes

Volume 2 is things that look likely to work and what the recipe may look like with any amends

Volume 3 is things I’ve tried and the base recipe with any adjustments

Volume 4 is things that work and the final recipe

I may need to get a few more volume 1 and 2 notebooks…

6 Comments
2024/09/01
15:38 UTC

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Open sourced colas

10 Comments
2024/09/01
07:53 UTC

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Question on mixing powdered Ingredients

I checked the sub rules and I THINK this is allowed, but I understand if not.

I found this sub from some posts in r/soda and I thought someone here might be able to help me.

I’m trying to make a large batch of homemade electrolyte powder to add to water. However, the powder mixture isn’t homogenous due to varying grain sizes of the ingredients. The recipe has table salt, potassium chloride, magnesium malate, a “powdered” sugar substitute, and True Lemon packets.

I made a smaller test batch of 5 servings. The True Lemon is the largest of the ingredients, slightly larger than the table salt (although it clumps up so that could be throwing off the grain size appearance) The table salt and potassium chloride seem to be a similar size, and the magnesium malate and powdered sweetener are the finest. After mixing them all together in a small Tupperware container I noticed The True Lemon flavoring is just settling to the bottom of the container I put it all in. I didn’t think about this before I started making larger batches. The rest of the ingredients aren’t mixing together very well, either.

What would be the best way to blend/grind this mixture to get a uniform size? Can I use a normal food processor, or small personal blender like a NutriBullet? I feel like that could lead to a big mess. I also don’t want it to be too fine where it just throws up dust clouds every time I try to scoop some into my water bottle. Any tips, tricks, or suggestions are more than welcome.

Thank you! And if this isn’t the right place to ask, please steer me to a better sub if you can.

3 Comments
2024/09/01
01:03 UTC

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Fanta Recipe Request

Does anyone have a Fanta copy recipe?

11 Comments
2024/08/31
03:57 UTC

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Dandelion & burdock extract

To make this lovely dark brown extract, I took 45g each of dandelion and burdock roots and ground them to a reasonably fine powder - think coffee grounds for espresso and you’re about there.

Then, I wetted the roots with 50% alcohol until they were just slightly damp with no dry spots and let them sit for a couple of hours.

Next, I packed the damp roots into a dropping funnel with a wad of cotton in the neck to act as a filter and carefully added 100ml of 50% alcohol, covered the funnel and left it to sit for 48 hours.

After the 48 hours were up, I opened the valve slightly to allow the liquid to slowly drip out - roughly 1-2 drops a second.

Once the liquid level was about halfway drained, I added another 100ml of 50% alcohol and slowed the drip rate to around 1 drop every 2-3 seconds to allow the new liquid to soak up all the at lovely flavour.

It’ll take a good few hours to fully filter, but you should end up with about 200ml or so of nicely strong extract that you can add to a drink (with some star anise and molasses) to make a delicious D&B.

I’m also extracting some liquorice root I’ll and seeing if adding some of that helps the flavour profile.

5 Comments
2024/08/29
17:15 UTC

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The Ultimate Ginger Ale Cordial

https://preview.redd.it/hx1piat988kd1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4efd3a9e60683e4ebd231bd12531c53c1a03e38

This recipe uses powdered and fresh ginger, rose, lemon and orange essences from your flavour library (or pure essential oils), vodka, glycerine (or 95% ethyl alcohol) and a bit of patience.

Your first step is to peel and grate 30g of fresh ginger and add it to 60g of powdered ginger. Ginger peel adds a bitter, almost nasty flavour, so remove it before use.

Next, slowly add a 80%/20% vodka/glycerine mix (if using 95% alcohol, you don't need any glycerine) and mix it into the powder well until it's just damp with no dry bits. You don't want to have any puddles of liquid at the bottom, so be careful.

Let the ginger mix sit and the powder will turn into a 'wet sand' consistency. This is perfect.

  • If you have a dropping funnel, now's the time to use that - put a wad of cotton at the bottom and push it in. Carefully add the wet ginger on top and slowly pour in around 250ml of your alcohol solution. The liquid will gradually work its way through the ginger. Let this sit covered for 24 hours and then open the valve and let it slow drip into a bottle.
  • If you don't have a dropping funnel, you can use a jar. Add the ginger and alcohol into the jar, seal and shake well. Let it sit for 24 hours and carefully filter. You'll go through a lot of coffee filters as the powder will clog them very effectively.

You should end up with a dark red liquid at the end that's got a really pungent ginger smell and a real spice kick to it. This is what you want.

If you've made essences following the instructions for building a flavour library, add 3ml each of orange and lemon essences and 0.5ml of rose. If you don't have these, add about 10-15 drops each of lemon and orange essential oils and 1 drop of rose. If you used vodka, some of the oils may not go into solution and will float to the top. These will need to be removed before use. The ginger will soak up a bit of the liquid, so you'll probably end up with around 200-230ml of extract. That's still enough to make almost 7-8 litres of cordial.

Now comes the part that needs a bit of patience. This ginger extract works best when left to age - the longer the better, so seal up the bottle and store it somewhere cool and dark for weeks to months before using. You can use it straight away, but the flavour will improve with age. It's also very shelf stable, as the alcohol will preserve it for years.

Once you're ready to use it, add between 10-30ml to a litre of simple syrup (to taste) and you have your ginger ale cordial. It's very gingery and very spicy, so start small and work your way up if it's got too much of a kick.

Never ever ever plonk a load of ginger in a pan with water and simmer it to make ginger ale. Most of the decent compounds aren't water soluble and heat destroys them, so you'll end up with a really weak tasting drink. Alcohol soaks these flavour compounds up happily and keeps them tasting fresh and spicy.

6 Comments
2024/08/22
14:36 UTC

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Welcome to the influx of new subscribers! Here's a handy website I made that should give you some inspiration...

https://cordials.info

I set this site up to give you information on how to make simple syrups, oleo saccharums, super juices and a (not quite, but close) comprehensive and searchable database of fruit, spice and herb flavours that work well together so you can experiment with combinations.

5 Comments
2024/08/22
08:00 UTC

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Sparkling gooseberry cordial

8 Comments
2024/08/21
14:16 UTC

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Tilt - a Lilt clone

A couple of weeks ago, u/Unhappy_Act9528 asked for a Lilt copycat recipe. This ain’t it, but it’s a twist on the classic Lilt flavour. Hence “Tilt”.

I’ve used the pineapple flavouring from The Flavour Smiths (https://theflavoursmiths.co.uk/natural-flavourings/pineapple/) in place of pineapple juice and pink grapefruit essence from my new flavour library.

I can definitely see this being a firm favourite.

If you can’t get hold of citral (it’s a nice lemon flavour that compliments real lemon nicely), just double the amount of lemon essence instead.

Add 3ml of this to a litre of 3:2 simple syrup with 1.5g of citric acid and you’re good to go!

IngredientAmount
Lemon essence0.5ml
Citral essence0.5ml
Lime essence1.5ml
Pink grapefruit essence3ml
Pineapple flavour1.5ml
3 Comments
2024/08/16
10:48 UTC

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Building a flavour library

I found these 40ml jars online (https://www.sen5es.co.uk) and bought 25 to start building up a flavour library that can be easily added to a syrup.

To make a flavour essence, measure out 30ml of 95% alcohol and add 1.5ml of your chosen essential oil. This is about as much as will comfortably mix with the alcohol and gives you a very strong essence. Give it a quick shake and label. Store these in a cool, dark place and they should last you for years.

You can buy perfume test strips online - the type you see in department stores - these can be dipped into an essence and left to evaporate for a few seconds. Do this with a couple of different essences and then give them a sniff together (eg: lemon, lime & grapefruit). If the scent “works”, you should be able to combine those essences together in a drink, but you may need to experiment to find the right percentages of each to mix.

You’ll generally add around 0.25ml to 5ml of essences to a litre of syrup. This should be more than enough to flavour the syrup.

Disposable pipettes with ml markings can be found online for not much money which makes measuring things out a lot easier.

I plan on adding more flavours to this library over time, which should greatly speed up drink making development and mixing. Combined with a library of extracts I’m also making, I should have a massive selection of flavour options to make a whole host of drinks.

10 Comments
2024/08/16
08:58 UTC

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US E150d (soft drink caramel) Sources

Hey folks,

I presume some of you, like me, enjoy colas and are interested in putting together/playing with cola-like flavors. I've had a heck of a time finding e150d (caramel syrup) in the US. I emailed Modernist Pantry (service@modernistpantry.com) about it today, and they said they would look into it. I suspect a few more people asking may encourage them to look/try a bit harder. It might be worth your while to also contact them.

Also, if anyone has an existing source, I'd be interested to hear about it.

3 Comments
2024/08/15
20:30 UTC

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Another batch - Ginger (cloudy!), lingonberry, orange, rowanberry, minty lime and lastly aronia.

5 Comments
2024/08/15
09:13 UTC

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