When you grip a pistol, where does the force of the support hand come from - the support arm, or the support hand fingers? In all the explanations I've seen of how to grip, this is never as clear as I'd like.

As far as I can see, there are 2 sources of force you could use - your support arm, and your support hand fingers. You can squeeze your support hand into the gun with the power of your fingers wrapped around your firing hand fingers. Or you can push your support hand into the gun from the support side, which requires you to use the muscles of your support arm.

I see 2 ways to do use the support arm: pushing straight inwards, or rotating the support arm (i.e. pushing your support elbow outwards).

So that gives a total of 3 ways to exert force on the gun. Of course you can use a combination of them. Is there one correct way? Which way do you do it? I ask because so far none of them work for me, the gun slips around like a fish no matter what I do.

Thanks!

For those that carry for work (LE or mil), do you compete with a similar gun?

Majority of my training has been with M17 with RMR and I am looking to get into competition shooting for further improvement. First thought is to get something similar to my work gun for competition like 320 legion but wondered if anyone else has some input as I am open to other suggestions.

Anyone have any experience with Keiron Reactive laser targets for practice? http://www.keironshoot.com/

I know dry fire is free, but I get bored and won't stay with it.

Hi, I'm new to the competitive scene and have been shooting Carry Optics the last few months. I started shooting with my echelon as I am most comfortable with that, and have the most rounds through it. I recently started shooting with my carry gun, though, a Shadow 2 Compact. It got me thinking about a full-size Shadow 2 and I went down that rabbit hole...

Anyways as a beginner I think the default was to just join Carry Optics and have fun. Not sure what it is, but as a beginner the other divisions seem more... serious? Competitive? Higher level? Idk. But for some reason it feels as though I would be doing my "progress" in the sport a disservice if I wasn't getting more experience in Carry Optics. That feels like it's a ridiculous thought so I'm just coming here for outside opinions.

Anyways I bring this up because I was thinking of throwing a magwell and optic on the Shadow 2. I'm obviously comfortable not shooting with a magwell, so I'm curious on thoughts surrounding divisions from people more experienced than me... pros/cons of shooting in CO/LO and also division thoughts in general. As in, should I avoid LO if I can help it? Or fuck it and just have fun?

My goal is to get to at least B class in whatever division I'm in.

Been thinking about getting into competitive shooting for awhile but I really have no idea where to start. Any advice or clubs I should look into in the Utah County area?

I shot my 2nd Steel Challenge match tonight so now I've done all 8 stages.

Is there a way to figure out what classification my score would be?

I'm the highlighted one:

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I'm just kinda confused on how this all works.

Thanks!

Moving to Dallas, Texas soon wanted to see what was available for USPSA matches in that area. What are the clubs like?

Are there any places in the Houston Texas area where you can practice shooting that allows for movement. I’m looking for something that’s not just standing in a lane and firing.

Anyone knows if upper rail (light trigger) from older Alien will fit newer Creator models?

Generally, Being muscular will reduce flexibility and demands more oxygen intake.

More Muscular you are, the more oxygen demand our body need.

So, will it negatively affect the 10m air rifle athletes if they lift HEAVY weight and become more muscular??

In a recently post about a STI Edge for LO, I said that I thought all divisions should have minor and major pf.

My reasoning is: I believe power should be a part of the equation, and I believe having less ammo/more recoil it’s enough of a trade for having one more point with C and D!

I feel like that’s something the European and South American IPSC community can get behind, but Americans definitely don’t agree.

So I ask, why some divisions should be minor only? Or should all divs be minor only? What are your thoughts on that question?

Been out of the game for a while and as I have gotten back into it, I’ve only to discover classes/equipment have changed. Everyone is shooting 9mm minor and optics. Been looking for a while to find someone to do a reasonable optic cut on my old sti .40 cal limited gun. Super excited to get this one back in the rotation. Capacity doesn’t matter as we are a 10 round state and I have enough brass to last me a while. Looks like I will be reloading some powder puff loads since they new optic classes are minor PF. It is a shame they basically did away with one of the three pillars….”power”, speed, and accuracy.

Hey all, looking for some input on which firearm to get as a Christmas gift for my dad. He’s done a ton for me and I finally have my own money so I want to get him a good gift.

I am currently looking at getting an H&K VP9 Tactical and build it out with a Holosun & Flashlight. Tactical because he will eventually want a silencer (after he does all the requirements of course) and his other handguns do not have the proper barrel.

He wants to get into competition shooting and CQB training. Is the VP9 Tactical the way to go?Trying to stay below $1500 with accessories included.

Hi I'm wondering which full sized CZ pistol makes the most sense for production/carry optics? The 75 BD, SP-01 Tactical, or P-09 Nocturne F? In the use context of production/carry optics and overt fighting pistol should it come to that, and I'm thinking of getting a P-09 Nocturne C as well for CCW.

Pros and cons

The 75 BD

Pros • all steel construction • second cheapest option • can use a cool fire trainer • has airsoft/pellet trainers • takes CZ 75 magazines

Cons • not optics ready out of the box • lacks a light rail • can't seem to find threaded barrels when not in competition configuration • small Beaver tail but I have smaller hands so? • Doesn't share magazines with P-07/09/10

The SP-01

Pros • all steel construction • can use a cool fire trainer • has airsoft/pellet trainers • has aftermarket threaded barrels available • full sized beaver tail • light rail • takes CZ 75 magazines

Cons • the most expensive of the three • not optics ready out of the box • Doesn't share magazines with P-07/09/10

The P-09 Nocturne F

Pros • The Cheapest one • has airsoft/pellet trainers • Aftermarket threaded barrels • light rail • optics ready • shares magazine pattern with P-07/09 Nocturne C/ 10

Cons • polymer frame making the easiest to carry but not shoot • doesn't have a cool fire system for it

So which of the three is subjectively the best and why?

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What podcasts and books do you recommend about training, I am trying to focus less on gear right now. I currently have all Ben’s books, refinement and repetition, and Brian Enos’s book.

Thanks!

LOK grips makes brass panels for the Beretta 92 but not for the Vertec. I like the extra weight for my competition guns. I asked if they would ever consider making a wraparound version for the Vertec frame and they said if enough people are interested they’d consider it. So if that sounds good to you, maybe reach out LOK.

I know that some of you are also stuck in the position that your apartment is too small to truly train movement and you do not have access to ranges that allows movement other than during matches. Have you found any training drills or skills to work on that you could for instance do on a basketball court or field in public? Could training footwork without “air-gunning” lead to any improvement?

Hello Hey do the regular (full size)Canik TP 9 magazines fit the other full size guns such as the METE SFT / SFX etc?

Wondering where you can find the HF required for each class for all of the USPSA classifier stages?

Just shot a local match with a classifier and want to see what class I'd be in globally.

Not a uspsa member if that is a problem.

Anyone had any experiences they would like to share?

I’ve got 2 507Comps that have been with them for a month. Cracked glass and broken off battery tray screw.

Just wondering how long some, if any, of you had to wait?