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Welcome to Cobra Kai! Fear does not exist in this dojo. Pain does not exist in this dojo. Defeat does not exist in this dojo. Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy.

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Welcome to Cobra Kai! Fear does not exist in this dojo. Pain does not exist in this dojo. Defeat does not exist in this dojo. Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy.

This is a place for discussing all things related to the Netflix (previously YouTube Premium) series Cobra Kai, the world of The Karate Kid and its sequels (even the Swank one).

Show created by Jon Hurwitz, Josh Heald, and Hayden Schlossberg.

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S6E01 Peacetime in the Valley

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How would P2 be different if Miguel was captain instead of Robby ?

I’m doing my weekly rewatch of season six and I just got to the final episode of part one. Miguel had been beating Robbie soundly, and only needed one more point, but through the power of friendship, he emerges victorious. How would the season been different if Miguel had scored that last point and became captain before Tori walked in?

8 Comments
2025/01/02
20:37 UTC

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Could this be how Miguel beats Axel in S6?

1 Comment
2025/01/02
20:36 UTC

1

What if Hector Salazar,was actually a changed man?

So we all remember how Miguel tought his father was an actual good guy and his mother lied about him,just to this all break down on that scene where Jhonny and Robby were mistaken for FBI agents and Hector freaks out,then Miguel had the confirmation his father was really awful and dangerous.

But lets suppose than this time Miguel has the confirmation of the exact opposite,Hector remains calm and go meet Jhonny explaining to Miguel than he was an criminal,but he paid for his crimes back in Equador and after leaving jail,he left this life too and earn his life being an actually honest entrepeneur,so he has nothing to fear from the law,then he meets Jhonny and discover he is not from FBI and than Miguel is his son too,so what changes in the show?

2 Comments
2025/01/02
20:16 UTC

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Imagine if Silver didn’t kidnap just Daniel

What would happen if Silver had Daniel, Chozen, Johnny, Kim And Kreese all captured. Between him, Sensei Wolf And dennis (the goon with the long hair), it is possible for them to sneakily capture all of the sensei’s listed and by surprise too. Silver used Mr Myagi’s past to lure Daniel, could’ve sent Sensei Wolf to get Johnny, could’ve found out about Kim and Chozen and sent an anonymous text blackmailing them or pretending to be one of them to trick the other, and could’ve used himself or sent a text from Kim’s phone to get him to come. It would’ve been quite interesting to watch this but how would it go?

3 Comments
2025/01/02
20:15 UTC

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These two molded Kreese into the person he is today

It all started with Kreese's upbringing, his father left him and his mom when he was only a kid leaving Kreese alone with his sick mother who he eventually started taking care of. Though that ended in tragedy as she took her own life in 1965, now Kreese was completely alone and had to survive all by himself. To add even more salt to the already open wounds Kreese was constantly bullied by his peers because of his mother's actions.

Just when it looks like his life would only get worse everything changed for the better. Kreese met a beautiful young lady named Betsy while working at a local diner in the San Fernando Valley and after witnessing her then abusive boyfriend hit her Kreese stepped in to save Betsy and in doing so winning her over. Kreese and Betsy started dating and fell in love. Their time together was one of genuine happiness for Kreese and it's probably the only time in his entire life that he had ever been truly happy. But Kreese never forgot about the crumbled up Army pamphlet from the day he first Betsy and he eventually decided that it was time for him to join the U.S. Army to not only be a hero and serve his country but to also provide a better future for him and the love of his life. Kreese eventually said final goodbyes to Betsy along with some kisses and promised that he would return home to her as a hero. In Vietnam Kreese met Captain George Turner, a Korean War Veteran and once student of Master Kim Sun-Yung. Turner would train Kreese in hand to hand combat, first introducing him to the no mercy ways and would also have a big influence on Kreese but not in a good way. Vietnam was also far cry from civilian life and Kreese would experience extreme violence and awful things while there but with his Betsy waiting at home for him gave Kreese the strength and motivation to keep on going, to survive. But sadly that would also come to a tragic end when Betsy died in a car accident back home. Before fighting each other to the death above a pit full of snakes Captain Turner cruelly revealed the awful news to Kreese that Betsy died and even mocked about her death too but it only made Kreese even more angrier and after Kreese defeated his Captain he showed him no mercy, understandable so.

After the POW camp Kreese was a changed man with absolutely nothing anchoring him to his previous humanity. Instead of letting himself fall apart which he could've easily done he took all his rage and hate/pain from losing everything he had ever loved and cared for in his life and used those emotions to build himself back up, adding armor around himself while also discipling himself fully in the Martial Art. Kreese used his newfound strength to become the U.S. Army Karate Champain. After returning home in 1975 Kreese would take what he learned from his old Vietnam War Captain and would create his own version of the no mercy philosophy, creating the motto he would live by for the rest of his life, Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy. In 1980, 5 years after founding Cobra Kai alongside his war buddy and good friend Terry Silver they would both travel to South Korea to train under the creator of the way of the fist himself, Master Kim Sun-Yung.

After all the awful things Kreese went through in Vietnam what he really needed was a sensei like Mr Miyagi or someone like him not the most ruthless sensei in the entire franchise. While learning under Kim Sun-Yung Kreese would only reinforce his no mercy beliefs and everything he learned in Vietnam from Turner as Master Kim would permanently engraved those ideals further into his mind through torturous training.

5 Comments
2025/01/02
19:41 UTC

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The writers fumbled this character's underdog storyline so here's mine

I think she should've gotten an underdog storyline as her arc and it would be like her dad, it would be great for a legacy kid. Everyone in the tournament including some of the Senseis looked down at the miyagi do dojo especially for being Americans as seen from ep 6. The tournament goes basically the same way as episode 7 until the bo staff competition. Sam loses (I don't really like this one but It's for the story), Miguel is basically the only one who's actually winning for the team by this point and the crowd cheers for him every time he cooks . Sam meets Zara in the elevator and Zara says the same thing she did originally but instead of Sam brushing it off she actually thinks about what she said. She goes to her room and that's when she bumps into Cara (Dublin thunder female captain). Cara is itching for a fight as well as the rest of her team as stated by hawk, she then decides to instigate things and taunts Sam about her team's performance. The poor performance of her and her team is a reflection of her skill and leadership so people look down at her for that. Sam is pissed off and she calls Cara off. Cara leaves knowing she successfully pissed Sam off and then the "rivalry" starts. Sam goes to her room and she thinks about her encounters and she considers that they're right. It's time for the elimination rounds and Sam's locked in after deciding she's not taking shit anymore (callback to when Piper ticked Sam off and got her ass beaten). It's Sam's turn to fight on the narrow platform. She locks in with some quick Kata and thinks about her experience with such platforms :the tree from s1 and on the bow of a boat from S3 as mentioned by Daniel. She sees Cara in the crowd looking at her and the fight begins. Her opponent charges at her and starts with a side kick but Sam ducks under it and counters with a leg sweep knocking her opponent off in 10 seconds. The commentator yells "..... Out, 10 seconds. Impressive victory by Miyagi do's Samantha LaRusso". Cara sees this and she's kinda ticked off and a bit jealous. Sam sits and it's everyone else's turn (Miguel also cooks). It's time for the second platform fight (still against Dublin thunder) Sam is paired with Robby and she reminds him to use the wheel technique. They're now on the platform and are ready to fight. Sam and Robby start off with defence, blocking and countering the attacks. It's now that specific scene when Robby loses focus and finds Tory (in this scene Sam kicks the guy back inside the platform) but in this case Sam kicks her opponent off and She sees Robby (unfocused) get kicked on the shoulder. Just as the girl is about to deliver the second kick to knock Robby off she side kicks that girl and sends her flying off the platform. Robby sees that he almost got knocked off and thanks Sam and he starts getting serious. They cook the next two opponents fast and are now left with the captains. Cara goes straight for Sam all furious and says "think you're so tough bitch? Well I'll show you tough" but Sam is not as fatigued as she was originally. Robby takes care of the male captain and Sam takes care of Cara. Cara goes offensive trying to knock Sam off but Sam isn't having it so she goes full eagle Fang and gets Cara on defense. Robby knocks his opponent off, Cara is surprised and tries to humble Sam with a leg sweep but Sam tornado kicks her in the face and knocks her off. The commentator yells "Excellent performance by the Miyagi do captains, Samantha LaRusso and Robby Keene". The crowd yells "Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam!" mainly bc she performed better than Robby but they also cheer for him. Sam and Robby celebrate with a triumphant bow as the rest of the team cheers them on. Miguel is glad that Robby finally locked in and is happy for Sam too. The entire team goes to the platform and they celebrate them. Miguel says "good job, captains" like when he did in ep 9.

Everything can go the same way it did in ep 8. Robby can get unfocused bc of Kwon and Zara and things go the same in ep 9 too.

This version ensures that the team still loses, they're still underdogs, Miguel still cooks and is recognized for it but Sam and Robby aren't done nearly as dirty as they were in the original.

3 Comments
2025/01/02
19:25 UTC

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Daniel and johnnys karate must live on

One of my biggest questions of the series is what will daniel and Johnnys legacy be. Legacy is the main theme of this show. The impact you made living on for generations. Miguel pointed out that Johnny and daniel regardless of their issues with their senseis, helped out a bunch of kids and turned them into some of the best karate students in the world. How will that legacy live on when they retire inevitably. I doubt just one person is gonna cary on their legacy all on their shoulders. Ideally and what makes the most sense is their children carry on their legacy. Sam and Anthony carries on Mr. Miyagis legacy while robby and miguel carry on johnnys legacy.

1 Comment
2025/01/02
18:53 UTC

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How DID Daniel's kidnapper know that he was searching for answers about Miyagi? (SPOILERS)

Daniel suspects Kreese at first, because master Kim was in the room. But now that we know it was Silver who kidnapped him, how tf did HE find out? I know sensei Wolf was in the room too, but he wasn't close by like Kim was, right?

In s5 Silver tried buttering up the Seikai Taikai-comission with promises of pumping his money into the tournement. He spoke about sponsorships, television-broadcaststs etc. In s6, it looks like Seikai Takkai has all those things? My theory is that Silver actually did cut a deal and sponsored a lot of the ST.

I'm calling this right now: Mr. Braun was actually on Silver's payroll all along. He fed Silver information about Daniel's quest for answers, and he's gonna be revealed as a major villain for part 3.

5 Comments
2025/01/02
17:36 UTC

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season 6 finished and was wondering about rumoured past characters appearance

Bad titles, but had to be a certain lenght. Basically I have heard rumours and it was in the plan that Kd 4 aka the next, she would show up in season 5 or 6. Was it or did they needed to wrap it up and drop off seasons to cut time. It would tie in so well with the Miyagi arc if they made it so.

It is ok, but I would have wanted something more nostalogic rather then just teenage drama. Feel a disservice to the nostalogical people(without saying f.an.s bc dunno rules) who followed along. I mean S3 was peak. Tie in the past to present and future.

And I was hoping at a certain time that 2010 movie Jackie Chan and that kd would show up too. As well as that little girl. Though apparently there is a new movie coming out kd : legends(like really, are we in the same universe anymore?) If we assumed all the previous is so. Also wanted to see Makino more as well.

Here to hoping to make at least an appearance in the finale and have a send off for the nostalogia seek and memories of it rather then just tennage wennie drama.

Any comments and thought?

1 Comment
2025/01/02
03:32 UTC

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Why Does this Spirite Bottle Break Like Glass?

I'm a little zooted, but this is the same design as a plastic sprite bottle right?

4 Comments
2025/01/02
03:32 UTC

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Just finished S6, and questions about past character appearance is in my head

Bad titles, but had to be a certain lenght. Basically I have heard rumours and it was in the plan that Kd 4 aka the next, she would show up in season 5 or 6. Was it or did they needed to wrap it up and drop off seasons to cut time. It would tie in so well with the Miyagi arc if they made it so.

It is ok, but I would have wanted something more nostalogic rather then just teenage drama. Feel a disservice to the nostalogical people(without saying f.an.s bc dunno rules) who followed along. I mean S3 was peak. Tie in the past to present and future.

And I was hoping at a certain time that 2010 movie Jackie Chan and that kd would show up too. As well as that little girl. Though apparently there is a new movie coming out kd : legends(like really, are we in the same universe anymore?) If we assumed all the previous is so. Also wanted to see Makino more as well.

Here to hoping to make at least an appearance in the finale and have a send off for the nostalogia seek and memories of it rather then just tennage wennie drama.

Any comments and thought?

Reposted here bc I think this flair is better and I can not change flairs in edit. Also dont thinknit is too much spoiler if at all

1 Comment
2025/01/02
03:40 UTC

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Any fics about Sam joining Cobra Kai?

It'd be hard to pull off, but also such a fun story concept!

2 Comments
2025/01/02
17:04 UTC

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I just found this funny when I saw it

26 Comments
2025/01/02
17:20 UTC

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They fumbled writing Hawk's redemption arc

I don't think I make it much of a secret that I don't like Hawk very much. I didn't love his "redemption" or what they were trying to go for with how it was written. He's an interesting character, and if handled better he could've been even better, I like the ideas they had for him but I don't think the execution always lived up to that. (Warning this post got so much longer than I though, but it is a pretty lengthy analysis)

The journey from bullied social outcast to overconfident, overcompensating fake persona to full on violent bully to being forced to face himself without the persona to good guy could've been an incredible story. And parts of it are, but there's too much for me that got rushed, backtracked or just not properly done to truly like it better.

His villain era was well written I think. For me it was so well done that even though I don't like Hawk, I love seeing and analysing his character at this stage because it really is very good. Him being done being mocked and taking Johnny's comments to heart and adopting the "Hawk" persona and completely reinventing himself was well done. I do really like watching him start out so extreme, he wanted never to feel as small as he did as "Eli" so he changed every part of himself. He came out with a bang.

By the end of s1 he's really started on his proper villain arc, dislocating Robby's shoulder in the tournament, the showboating and the real beginning of the end of his friendship with Demetri. It's a believable decent, he got so caught up in the act that he ended up taking it too far.

Now this is the era where I tend to disagree with people who love him the most, I don't think this is his "prime" and I will never defend how he treated Demetri here. Hawk and Demetri had to be one of my favourite side-plots in the show. Hawk being so determined to leave his old self behind that he started bullying the only person who had always stood by him was a sad, but very compelling story. It was also the very beginning of his redemption arc and in my opinion, that s3 and 4 era was my favourite to watch of Hawk.

In s3 he takes the bullying even further following the school fight and being beaten by Demetri. When he breaks Demetri's arm it's the first real instance where we get to see Hawk's persona really slipping and he begins to question himself. I won't ever excuse him doing this as peer pressure or heat of the moment, it was his decision to do and I think was the kick in the rear he needed to see how bad he'd gotten and we do get to see that while he tries to justify what he did when confronted by Miguel, he was conflicted.

I can't say enough how much I really do love how they wrote Hawk's arc at this point and don't think it started to slip until s4. Following the incident with Demetri we get to see Hawk spiral further when Robby comes to Cobra Kai. Hawk's persona relied heavily on intimidation and being the strongest person in the room, so when Robby joined the dojo, wasn't scared or impressed by him, refused the beer and called out Hawk being fake, was quickly accepted by the other cobras by grabbing the snake when Hawk wouldn't and quickly snatched Hawk's "King Cobra" title it shook him. Hawk was no longer the top dog and it showed him that his persona had cracks, he wasn't impressing people anymore and he'd lost all of his friends. He still clung on for a bit by tagging along in the house fight, but his guilt and realisation eventually led to his switching sides. And from here on I think they really fumbled how they wrote Hawk fully switching to the good guy's side. My only issue is that Demetri should NOT have forgiven him so quickly, not after everything Hawk did to him, that man needed to grovel first.

In s4 they wrote in Hawk struggling to fit in with his dojo and dealing with the other students not completely trusting him yet, I did like this. But they tried to make it look like he'd completely stopped with the bullying and was in the process of fixing his burned bridges, but he was still a bully. He was bullying a middle schooler, it came back and bit him in the ass and I was meant to pity him?? Yeah not happening.

I don't feel bad for Hawk having his head shaved for two reasons. 1)He was asking for it, bullying a middle schooler who didn't do shit to him knowing he was a Cobra kai. He of all people should know they'd never let that slide. The cobras told Hawk they'd get him back and Robby even straight up told Johnny to get him to stop and nothing changed. 2)This was a wasted opportunity. Hawk having his hair shaved and entering the tournament as "Eli" should've been the start of him dropping the persona and learning that he could still be strong and respected without it.

I hated so much that they seemed to be doing so well with the Hawk finding himself arc, he started using his real name, found a place in Miyagi-do where he felt comfortable and respected and had his friends back and then they pulled out the tattoo and the fucking Hawk sound effect. And he wound up winning the tournament as Hawk again. It was then I knew the finding himself storyline was dead and gone, we started s5 with a baby mohawk, back to the nickname and nothing to show any middle ground. I've always thought if they needed to bring back the hair, keep one of the shorter ones that way he can still have the style and fun colours (just play it as he liked his hair like that) without it looking like he's gone back to hiding behind it. It felt a waste to do so much work and buildup for Hawk finding worth in himself as "Eli" and learning that his real self was strong too just to immediatley revert back to the old style and some of the behaviour.

Even worse was that they literally showed that him trying to tap into the "Hawk" thing in his fight with Kenny failed. Yeah the fight was rigged but it just looked so silly, you've done so much work to deconstruct the persona only to bring it back and he gets his shit rocked.

After this it seemed like the writers decided his redemption was over and they no longer needed to do any work on it, which left him feeling a bit stale. This arc being over left him with little to do in s5 and 6 outside of the one sekai taikai qualifier match. And for me it just meant that I went from "I don't like him but I like watching him" to "I don't like him and now I'm bored watching him" in s5 and "I don't like him and he's pissing me off" in s6.

Also, not developing further on Hawk making amends and developing relationships with other characters just makes his behaviour in s6 pt2 specifically a lot less enjoyable. He and Demetri weren't getting along, and while I think this could've been an amazing opportunity to fix the whole not really working through what happened between them before and the fears they're once again not on the same page and they're gonna be moving away, instead it was petty and boring and went on for way too long.

He was still close with Miguel, but to me he looked too much like his cheerleader, like seriously the d-riding towards Miguel from him was getting a little much for me. He and Sam barely talked despite them seeming to get friendlier last season. He didn't interact with Devon at all. He acted so badly with Kenny, him previously bullying Kenny and now accusing him of working for Silver was a really bad look, the team asked him to fly over then so saying the timing is suspicious is nuts and that team didn't need any help losing. And him being so far up Miguel's ass that he started throwing shade at Robby's performance was also very out of line, especially considering not only was Hawk not performing well either, he was also not actually supposed to be on the team. My dude had no legs to stand on criticising someone he had watched fairly earn his spot when he himself was only there because Tory left.

Anywho, I fear this post got longer than I intended but I have wanted to write it for a while. I do think Hawk's character started off very strong, like I said even though I didn't like him I really enjoyed watching his arcs and storylines in the earlier seasons. Unfortunately I think it trailed off the later in the show we got, I don't enjoy much of his redemption and think overall his story could've been done way better following his switch at the house fight.

14 Comments
2025/01/02
16:58 UTC

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imagine Daniel and Amanda’s conversation once Daniel gets home it’s prob gonna be very interesting

60 Comments
2025/01/02
16:47 UTC

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What if there was a scene where Daniel arrived home when the house fight was still going on?

8 Comments
2025/01/02
15:36 UTC

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It occurs to me only season 1 and season 4 do not end with a all out brawl

Season 2 ended with an all out brawl in West Valley High with Miguel ending up in a coma

Season 3 ended with an all out brawl at the LaRusso mansion when Tory and her goons broke in

Season 5 ended with an all out brawl at the Cobra Kai dojo

Season 6 Episode 10 ended with an all out brawl at the Sekai Taikai

Only seasons 1 and 4 do not end with an all out brawl

6 Comments
2025/01/02
15:24 UTC

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looking back, they should've given more characters the "aisha treatment"

biggest problem we had was having way too many characters in the show thats why theres so many plot holes, plus certain characters turning into a plot device for another character. not everyone is being treated equally. some characters gets sidelined in a season.

hopefully they fix this mistake in the future spinoffs and a bigger budget would do wonders in Miyagiverse.

9 Comments
2025/01/02
15:13 UTC

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Season 6 Part 2 Was Amazing. Fr.

Holy shit just finished this- i feel like I need to get this off my chest.

Ima be honest, I have been disillusioned with CK for quite some time. I wasnt huge on last season and part one to be honest but this was everything I wanted and more. The over the top soap opera-ness of the last few seasons has made me physically cringe

But this part 2… man..

Spoilers btw

The Miyagi scene was fucking perfect, amazing use of a flashback sequence and ai. Made me physically emotional.

I love all the new characters, Kwons death was done so well and is a perfect watershed moment going forward.

Im so happy with the brawl sequence and the tournament as a whole being so over the top. I think the writers made a huge risk on the writing being waaaayyy over the top and it against practically all odds worked out.

Loving the action and the craziness of part 2. Hoping for a more sentimental send off in part 3 but damn that was good

4 Comments
2025/01/02
10:31 UTC

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Why do injuries in the show have absolutely zero consequences?

Yo guys. I recently saw a post about how the show has zero consequences in which I absolutely agree with, and I had this post in my mind for a while so I think now is a good time to post it. The show does not focus on injuries at all.

Im going to go in season order S1: They did not make a big deal with Robby getting his shoulder dislocated. I get its meant to show how strong he is, but it could of showed how ruthless the cobras were if robby actually got more injured rather than taking the sling off next episode. S2: All the injuries besides Sam’s were bullshit. We saw the pain Sam had and literally saw her get stitches, we saw it in real time. Robby and Tory were beat up like hell but are fine the next reason, and Miguel, my gosh, they fumbled the ball bad. I remember my mum crying when this happened, and there could of been more tension between him waking up for around 3 episodes. He wakes up at end of ep 1, stays bed ridden for like 2 - 3 episodes and then after 2 training montages hes absolutely fine. It seemed as though there was barely any consequence and they dont even bring it up now. S3: Again, Miguel getting punched in the back repeatedly was absolutely insane, and you could literally see how beaten he was. Yet, next episode, bro is fine with like 3 scratches on his face. Wouldnt he have the risk of being paralyzed, or at least have more damage? Cool seeing him bloody though. S4: Not much. s5 pisses me off the most. In the end, Mike gets hit in the back of the head then falls and hits his head, Johnny gets the fucking shit beat out of him, and Chozen is fucking cut up with a katana! What the fuck? No. 1: Mike. Mike can be seen rubbing the back of his head after saving Johnny, but thats it. No fucking damage at all. Johnny was really really beat up, and I thought this would continue into s6 as he was severly damaged, but no, he went to a hospital off screen with carmen and is fine. He looked really destroyed. Now, with Chozen, we atleast saw his arm scar in s6 ep6 when he is sleeping, and he mehtions the stitches in his back earlier in the season, but it doesnt affect him in any way and we dint even see the scar? Are you serious? S6: Robby got punched hard with all that blood flying out of his mouth and no one cares? Dont you think Johnny and Danielle would show some emotion? And then, he gets really beat up same as tory in the brawl, but I bet this wont matter in P3 and he will be fine. Kwon rip Fights dont even matter anymore. Everyone is and will be ok. Its only tournament now.

23 Comments
2025/01/02
14:03 UTC

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„Will Cobra Kai season 6 be the last time we see Billy Zabka as Johnny Lawrence?

I hope that at the end of Cobra Kai, there will be a new series/spinoff shown in the credits; it cannot be the end for Billy Zabka as Johnny Lawrence."

31 Comments
2025/01/02
13:00 UTC

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Anyone else feel like a bunch of plot threads are just abandoned

So in my opinion there were 3 major plot threads that were or seemingly are going to be abandoned due to recent posts on part 3 such as Johnny bringing back Cobra Kai

  1. Is well Kwon in part 1 he was built up to being the big bad of this season the biggest challenge. oh never mind here’s Axel also we see Kwon fight only a few times and most of them he loses and then DIES.

  2. Robby and Tory being on the podium together now this still could work if they choose to make Robby the boys champion cause it’s basically been set up that Tory will be the girls champion in her fight with Zara and Robby well he’s stuck in semis fighting Axel which has been hinted he will lose. Also anyone else think if Johnny does bring back Cobra Kai this would be the perfect way to bridge the two

  3. And finally Robby’s dilemma of being second place so before I get attacked hear me out. I don’t prefer one or the other I like them both I think they’re both great but this is from a storytelling perspective. In part 1 it was shown Robby was sick of coming in second and was ready to prove himself apart 2 he’s awful and keeps losing until his fight with Kwon then he’s beaten up by Axel. I wouldn’t mind that Miguel would be champion if they didn’t spend most of part 1 setting up Robby as having a runner up problem

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2025/01/02
12:41 UTC

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Possible Couple That I want to Happen at the end of the show

Miguel and Zara need to hook up. Keene already has a hot chick, and Sam and Miggy are too inconsistent. She can take Axel. Zara is arguably the finest chick on the show and I reckon her attitude with Miguel would be perfect, especially if he somehow takes captain or something like that and wins the sekai taikai with his old mentality. I can imagine them together. I feel they are perfect for eachother. COBRA KAI!!!

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2025/01/02
11:35 UTC

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The relationships with the mothers on the show

Something I've noticed is how overlooked the relationships between the children and their mothers can be, especially in favour of the ones between the kids and their fathers/father figures. I find some of the relationships to be very well done and others severely neglected, sometimes in favour of the ones with fathers/father figures. It's upsetting how they made the effort to introduce the mothers, but often completely ignore the bond, storylines including them or any opportunity to play on these bonds. I feel it could add a lot, especially knowing the state of some of the existing relationships.

-Carmen and Miguel - Carmen is a caring and devoted mother, but can ve too lenient at times to the point Miguel thought it a good idea to run away to find his father despite knowing his mother left him and didn't want them to meet and she conceeded on letting him train with Johnny and have him form such a close bond to the family despite her reservations (I do hate how they reduced Carmen to Johnny's love interest by s6). This bond was severely underdeveloped as the seasons went on, we don't get any more real parent-child scenes of them in favour of Johnny getting them instead which is a shame knowing how Carmen and Miguel are and how much they love each other with their family situation and background.

-Shannon and Robby - Despite her shortcomings, Robby loves his mother a lot, he cares for her safety, doesn't take any slander towards her and is visibly upset when she bails on spending time with him in favour of her boyfriends. Shannon went to rehab so she could be better for her son and clearly had improved when she got out (in s4 she took immediate action upon meeting Silver and clocked straight away that she did not want this man around her child, s5 she made plans of something to do with her son over the summer but allowed him to stay and bond with his father, and allowed his father to take him on a roadtrip and even helped that father get a job and phone to get his life together) but she's been totally erased since. It's like since reconciling with Johnny in order to cement that relationship they felt the need to remove Robby's mother despite telling us how much he loves her. It sucks knowing they spent the effort writing her storyline only to drop her completely and never mention her, she's a huge part of Robby's life and was the one who actually raised him and she seems to never get the credit for that, even as far back as s1 she had 3 examples of Johnny not being there for significant moments of their son's life that she remembers. And now she's totally gone.

-Sam and Amanda - I find Amanda to be a good parent to Sam, reasonable at most times but often I think she tends to lack understanding for her daughter. She didn't fully consider how Sam would feel about her getting close to Tory, didn't consider why Sam didn't want to stop karate and like Sam said she didn't pay enough attention to realise the actual problem. She clearly loves Sam, much more than Anthony I think, but tends to be a bit out of the loop with her. She loves her daughter, but often they have Amanda's karate disapproval come before she shows the concern for Sam, in the hospital after Demetri had his arm broken she comes in ready to scold until Sam cries, bans karate rather than talking through what the real issue was and taking away a passion from Sam, ect.

Amanda and Anthony - I'll be honest it doesn't even look like Amanda likes her son majority of the time. She doesn't trust him, yeah sure valid as he lied and did become a bully, but she also didn't notice when he was the one being bullied and refused to believe he wasn't the one who spiked Kenny. I can't think of a single moment between them where she didn't seem annoyed or angry with him. Anthony is a neglected child and he knows his parents favour Sam, he's made several remarks about it, it's no wonder he ended up the way he did. They have so many scenes together and still not a single one of a proper motherly moment from Amanda to Anthony.

I'm sure there's a lot to say about Tory and her mother (Grace I think her name is), Johnny and Laura, Eli and his mother, Demetri and his mother, and Daniel and Lucille, in fact there most certainly is, but I might go into certain ones of these separately (Demetri and Eli in particular).

I want to know what people think of these relationships and do you agree these should've been utilised or kept in the show more?? I think they wasted opportunities, sometimes advice and certain scenes could work better coming from a mother (especially in the households where the mother is the primary parent) and them being written off or pushed aside for the relationships with senseis, ect does a lot of these guys a disservice. It also furthers the consistent issue of this show using its female characters as plot devices rather than actual characters.

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2025/01/02
10:18 UTC

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How would you feel if Kenny lost

So it’s no question Kenny went stupid during the Sekai Taikai and has come far as a martial artist, but if he were to get into a fight with characters as such as Kyler, Demetri, Chris, and Mitch at this point in his journey. Would he lose and would it be justified? Would people feel the same they feel when Hawk loses to characters who he’s been shown to be above before?

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2025/01/02
09:57 UTC

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One direction I'm very glad they didn't take miyagi do in.

Throughout the entire series Johnny has been portrayed as being this politically incorrect, out of touch dude. And his karate is sort of the embodiment of the 80s. Johnny is a guy too cought up in an oudated version of masculinity, etc. Some of these elements are supposed to be flaws i imagine he's meant to grow out of by the end of the series (i do hope they keep him out of touch with certain trends just so he can keep some elements of his character).

One thing i am very thankful they didn't do was make miyagi do and daniel the polar opposite of Johnny in the most cartoonish way. It would have been very easy to make miyagi do this weirdly overly progressive american dojo just so they can figure out a way to contrast it too Johnny. This is how you know these writers care tol some degree about the cultural roots of miyagi do. Miyagi do has always been rooted in the arts of Mr miyagi and also rooted very real ancient martial arts and philosophies from Japan. The writers realized they had to always keep it true to what it was. They couldn't risk overly modernizing that for the sake of appealing to current gen z audiences. I feel if this show is written by any other writer they would have done exactly that and would have alienated a huge portion of the original fanbase.

Despite all the flaws of this show i am very glad with the miyagi do side they haven't done anything that disrespected the cultural roots of the dojo.

47 Comments
2025/01/02
07:29 UTC

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The sekai taikai could've been done better

I get that they can't make the entire season about the sekai taikai but at least give us some depth??

  1. I liked the captains war format but they didn't give us any explanation on the points system and how you earn points??.
  2. If the sekai taikai was supposed to be a team event till the tournament of champions then why was md and ck fighting 1v1s in the montage scene??
  3. Why is there a bo staff fight for no reason?
  4. No proper explanation on the points system in the mini and large platform either.

5..no points system for the team tag matches. 6. Only the tournament of champions was explained clearly and everything else was rushed in my opinion. Maybe this is because they can't cross a certain episode length but isn't it better for Netflix?? More length= people spend more time watching. In my opinion part 1 should've been a little longer and ended with the captains war fight instead of tory joining ck(Ik it's almost an extra episode but they could've easily reduced screen time for other scenes in part 1 and it would've been possible)

3 Comments
2025/01/02
07:17 UTC

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Did Kyler deserve a redemption?

Many people overlook him as an antagonist because he's not that strong of a fighter but as a person he's one of the worst in the entire show. Is Miguel forgetting that this guy has humilated sam, made fun of her dad, made her friends go against her and even ASSAULTED her in the movie theatre?
I feel like Kyler had more potential being a decent antagonist in s6 part 1 than their friend because I'm sorry but it makes no sense. Even if Kyler is ready to make peace with him, Miguel should not have forgiven him.

31 Comments
2025/01/02
06:46 UTC

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Why didn't Sam wear the Octopus Necklace that Miguel gave her?

We all know that Sam showed Miguel the necklace at the end of season 5 asking if its his and Miguel said yes, but she still never wore it.

27 Comments
2025/01/02
03:54 UTC

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Thoughts/Opinions on Carmen Diaz?

2 Comments
2025/01/01
06:38 UTC

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