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Hawk is my favorite character in Cobra Kai, and I noticed that ever since he beat Robby in the all valley he’s been significantly weaker. Like in the last 2 seasons he’s taken Ls to the likes of Kenny, Dimitri and even Kyler☠️ I know those were on technicalities( Like Dimitri taking his spot only cause he tried being a good friend and help him up, or Kenny using illegal moves and the ref being paid off) But still even with that there’s no way Season 5 Hawk, with all that he learned from Johnny, Kreese, and Daniel, shouldn’t stomp Kenny who’s still a rookie learning. Even in the Sekai Tekai, bro should be dominating. If Dimitri’s annoying ahh didn’t kick him off the platform Miguel wouldn’t even had to 2v1. Hawk would’ve survived and they would’ve whooped the other dojo with ease, but I feel like ever since they put him and Miguel back in the same dojo they don’t really know how to write them together to make them both look strong. Which is strange considering they were a great duo in the first 2 seasons. Bro went from a Top 3/ Top 2 teen fighter in the show, and now he’s just barely better than Dimitri. At least Daniel and Johnny acknowledged that he should’ve been goin to Barcelona over Dimitri which was cool but still Eli isn’t the same anymore

I thought the point of johnny and Daniel teaming up was for them to realize that Johnny’s offensive style mixed with Daniel’s miyagi do defensive style was the “perfect” way to fight. I might be wrong bc after season 6 cut halfway I forgot some stuff, but I thought that was the point. So I don’t really get how they’re still having problems with taking turns teaching the kids. Johnny’s still the same as he was in season 1 (which is sad bc he’s had so many character growths but he just reverts back for some reason) and it just feels like he’s pointless outside of Miguel and Devin if he can’t teach his style which is looked upon as “bad”

Give them time for a better logo lol

After >!Kwon's death !<do you guys think that Axel will be blamed at all, or do you think there will be a part where he feels remorse for what he did. Just wondering what you guys think. I think it would be good for his character to >!feel remorse for unintentionally causing Kwon's death and I think he will blame Sensei Wolf and all of the abuse will be revealed.!<

Robby vs Hawk in season 4 is still my favorite fight in the whole show.

Sad that it’s the last time we got to see Eli debatably be in the same league as Robby and Miguel before the writers nerfed him

Do we think that Silver had a hand to play in the brawl that happened at the end of S6 Part 2? Did he bribe or convince the other coach to fight back the way he did? He almost takes glee in watching it unfold and doesn’t do anything to stop it. His enemies are weaker now, tensions are higher and the Iron Dragons could be in better standing to beat the others down.

I tried to keep it short, bare with me…

This is the for the 80’s babies. I’m 38 and I grew up loving the Karate Kid and never thought it would come back outside of the remake with Jaden Smith. I remember watching How I Met Your Mother and seeing Ralph and William in that episode about Barney’s birthday and that little cameo got me hyped.

To have it return and become what it has means a lot to me. In 2018 I was my own black belt in martial arts so from season 1 to now I can relate to a lot of these things as a student and instructor. It has become a family thing as well. My wife and all my children watch the show and we make it a tradition to watch the new seasons together when they drop. I didn’t have these things growing up so it means a lot.

When those last 5 episodes are released I’m going to be excited and sad but it’ll be a great memory for my kids when they get older and talk about how they used to watch this show with their dad.

Thanks to everyone who had a hand in bringing it back!

I’m still hoping Hillary Swank makes an appearance

So basically I’m tired of people saying Kwon had it coming or he deserved it. I just want to tell them people you are ignoring the fact that he was too young and immature just like Chozen was. Kwon’s death was easily the saddest thing in the show so far because he was manipulated by Kreese and died because of his mistake too. He will never be able to grow up and redeem himself and apologies to those he hurt. Instead he has left everyone else with pain and regret it’s just such a dark and impactful moment in the show 😭

Everyone's assuming Kwon is dead, and it sure does look like it, but knowing the show it's still very likely that they gonna do medical procedures right away and he might make it out alive, just with severe injuries

Johnny tries to save Robby. ❌️

Johnny tries save to Miguel. ❌️

Johnny tries save to Kresse. ✅️

Axel = Johnny
Sam = Ali Mills
Miguel = Daniel
Sensei Wolf = Kreese

That's all i came here to say. I don't think any more exposition is necessary. What do you guys think?

probably a million post of these, but to claim to be about peace and being calm daniel is so dumb at times and jumps to so many conclusions.

why'd they pick such hot actors lmk

Flawless

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Apologies for the long text, I got a bit too inspired

TLDR: What’s the overall message of the Cobra Kai show? I think message of Cobra Kai, at its best, seemed to advocate for balance—combining the discipline and compassion of Miyagi-Do with the initiative and assertiveness of Cobra Kai. However in the last seasons the show seems to circle back to the idea that Miyagi-Do is inherently superior, disregarding Cobra Kai’s positive values, which feels disappointing. Does anyone else feel the same?

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I initially fell in love with Cobra Kai because of the profound and impactful message I believed it was delivering, one that resonated deeply with my life: Aggressive ideals, when properly applied, Can be good for you.

The original Karate Kid movies highlighted the contrast between the peaceful, calm philosophy of Miyagi-Do and the aggressive, conflict-driven mentality of Cobra Kai. The overarching theme was clear: true strength comes from compassion, forgiveness, and inner peace, not aggression or dominance. While I appreciated this lesson, Cobra Kai added depth by showing how certain “aggressive” ideals, when understood and applied correctly, could actually empower individuals.

My interpretation of Cobra Kai’s mantra:

• Strike First: Take initiative in life.
• Strike Hard: Be impactful in your actions.
• No Mercy: Always, give it your all!

These principles transformed Miguel’s life. Under Johnny’s guidance, Miguel gained the courage to stand up to bullies and take bold steps like asking Sam out. It was refreshing to see Cobra Kai’s values reexamined in a positive light.

In the earlier seasons, much of the story revolved around Johnny refining Cobra Kai’s philosophy—keeping its strengths while shedding its toxicity. He taught his students the difference between “No Mercy” and “No Honor” and created Eagle Fang to promote “badassery” without cruelty.

THIS CLIP GOD, I LOVE IT: https://youtu.be/gA4UVfPyynA?feature=shared

Even Daniel experienced growth, learning that aggression isn’t inherently bad. From Chozen teaching him that “defense can take many forms” to Daniel allowing his students to incorporate Eagle Fang and Cobra Kai techniques in tournaments, it felt like the show embraced a nuanced perspective.

For me, this message was transformative. Growing up in a strict Christian household (disclaimer: Christians, I’m NOT aiming to criticize your religion or values. I’m only sharing my experience about how my household’s interpretation of Christian teachings, affected me personally).

I was taught to always “turn the other cheek,” “forgive every offense,” “be humble” and “trust God’s plan.” While well-intentioned, these teachings left me unprepared to stand up for myself, be confident heck even a little arrogant, or take initiative to fight for things that I wanted instead of waiting for “destiny” to happen. Watching Cobra Kai offered a new perspective—it wasn’t just okay to fight for what you want; sometimes, it was necessary.

However, the later seasons feel like a step backward. The narrative seems to disregard the value of Johnny’s philosophy entirely, with Daniel reverting to his disdain for aggression and Johnny distancing himself from Cobra Kai without acknowledging its merits. The show seems to circle back to the idea that Miyagi-Do is inherently superior, which feels disappointing and reductive after the nuanced themes explored.

The message of Cobra Kai, at its best, seemed to advocate for balance—combining the discipline and compassion of Miyagi-Do with the initiative and assertiveness of Cobra Kai. Eagle Fang, despite the weird name, was my favorite dojo!

Strength is about adaptability, knowing when to show restraint and when to strike. Unfortunately, in later seasons, the show seems to lose sight of this balance, returning to a one-sided narrative favoring Miyagi-Do’s ideals. For viewers like me, who found empowerment in Johnny’s refined teachings, this shift feels like a missed opportunity.

Does anyone else here feel the same?

This storyline was unnecessary in the first place and haydens response to that question was bizarre to say the least.

It’s baffling to me that none of them predicted this sort of reaction when the scene wasn’t really subtle at all.

There is always a party episode, so when will be a worse time for everyone to get wasted of not Carmen'a birth?

If it was supposed to be a surprise that Silver was back, why mention him in the opening credits? Keep it under wraps.

I love it when la Russo thanks Johnny for the voicemail and Johnny says it’s all “p*ss under the bridge “. It just encapsulates both their characters so well and it’s so funny the way Johnny fully believes what he’s saying and thinks it’s correct and Daniel doesn’t bother to correct him😭😭. They’re both incredible actors and this season was really good.

But they're really not noticing that the teens aren't interacting with their primary senseis/father figures at all.

How many scenes did Miguel and Johnny have really? Daniel and Sam?

It seems to be a conscious decision.

Anyone hoping that, after Kwon's death, that everyone just... stops?

Because that's a traumatizing thing to witness for teenagers. If any of them continue karate, I'd be surprised.

I just want to see Tory (and all the kids) in therapy for what just happened and Tory and her brother get taken in/helped by the LaRussos for them to stay together.

What are the odds that the kids will all quit karate because of what happened?

Seems to be a common consensus that most people wish Kwon had stuck around longer or had lived up more to the hype, understandable with the popularity he gained after his introduction, people thought he was gonna be a lot more than he ended up being. Partially I feel like if the season had all dropped at once like the other 5 his hype wouldn't be so extreme, there wouldn't have been months for people to theorise and rave about how amazing he seemed, it would've been his introduction and straight into seeing how he actually fared against other opponents.

Anyway, he was impressive and it's always tragic having child characters die especially so brutally, but I do truly believe that he served his purpose. If he had remained alive there really isn't much they could've done with him. By the time he died he'd been beaten twice each by both Robby and Axel. With Axel it caused him to harbour a grudge to the end of the tournament and with Robby he was being dogwalked so badly he was literally screaming and hitting the floor, that fight only lasted so long because Robby wanted it to he could've taken the point when he was slamming Kwon into the floor and pulling hair.

Kwon was hit with the harsh reality that he wasn't as good as he (and fans) thought he was, he was never weakened or "nerfed" that was just his skill level. Same skill level as Robby and Miguel, which is why it makes sense that he landed a point on Miguel and why Robby was able to beat him - being royally pissed off and going for pain rather than just points opened him up to basically wipe the floor with Kwon.

Kwon couldn't take a loss, he couldn't stand the thought that people he believed were below him had beaten him, much like the situation with his own dojo - he believed he was better and hated that he wasn't thought of as such, Kim saw his issues and didn't want him as the team captain but put her trust in Kreese which enabled him further. This arrogance was nurtured by Cobra Kai's teachings and wound up with him paying the ultimate price for it. This is the result of an unchecked ego being encouraged by these teachings, this was what Kwon was made for. He wasn't meant to be the final big bad, he was a rival and an example, the worst case scenario. There was nowhere for him to go after the storylines he was needed for were complete.