(I originally posted on a discord belonging to an intactivist who goes by the name of nikos, this is a copy of that message, I post it here as a beacon of hope that we may all recover, and let F oregen Succeed in their mission)

I want to see Kennedy rip to fucking shreds the medical industry

he is digging deep

you know what, fuck it

u/everyone this is a signal of retribution

we finally have an opportunity to make our voice heard

if Kennedy is sympathetic to our cause

and he better bloody ought to considering the gargantuan task of addressing the obesity epidemic

we should know the (circumsision machine)conspiracy better than anyone!

don't let your shame, your deviancy stop you from recognizing that the undercover, the sociopaths, the psychopaths that think they run our country

have been seriously wounded

Gentlemen.

Make your voices heard.

We have the power to strike back against the corruption that have wounded us.

Kennedy is a conspiracy unraveler.

His voice in Washington and moral compass can be the first stepping stone towards fixing America.

We can win!

Be the spark that unleashes the raging fire.

In the age of John F. Kennedy, we can remind him that Americans didn't have the issue that we are faced with now.

After all, the mass cutting was propagated in the 1960's.

Don't turn a blind eye just because you see "Democrat" or "Republican" and think that they will not do anything for you.

These are estranged times, where the Democrats are cannibalizing, and the Republicans are diversifying.

Now is the time where the political discourse is turbulent enough to ride the winds to Victory!

We know our idea will remain strong under scrutiny!

Let's test the integrity of our leaders to keep their promises and let the best ideas of discourse truly shine.

Over these coming 4 years, let us campaign to send our grievances to the newly elected government.

And reclaim our son's unalienable right to happiness.

Whilst vindicating our own.

I can't answer everything and I do not mean to preach the ultimate truth about everything, I want to have intelligent discussions with all of you.

So excuse me for not being able to do much discussion, I have personal stuff that gets in the way.

I am very thankful for all your challenging texts and I am happy to see some people have rational information sharing arguments and debates!<3

I think Kamala is the lesser bad of two bad choices, I would choose her over Trump even if all the difference was just one less mutilated body thanks to her policies, one less death from the circumcision complications that happen so often, one less traumatized person... lesser of two evils.

Furthermore: Kamala, Kamala's administration and the people who surround her are way more open to suggestion, your voice has more power and it reaches more ears with them in power. Their mentality means that they and the people who follow them are more likely to listen and consider our very important say.

Fuck those doctors and people who still force the evil of circumcision in the blinding light of modern research results that scream against it with all their might, fuck them pushing this curse on unknowing people, people who just don't have information and don't know better.

People need to be educated so they don't blindly accept everything that is said to them by people and systems that have higher authority than them in their society.
Stop being a zombie that blindly takes commands from people and things that they were told to respect without question. Educate people about the negatives that simply outweigh any positive at all!

^^^^if you believe in the intactivist mentality, then vote for the party that has policies and mentalities that align with this^^^^

Intactivism is way more possible in a Kamala administration run US Government than one run by Trump and his gathering cronies made of predators who don't respect anyone's body, health or anything at all.

EDIT:

Thank you to almost everyone for your updoots, shares, views(went right past 2k :D), comments and replies!

A problem is that many people in the USA do not understand that their power to change things does not start and end with voting.

I know the stance of both sides on the issue.

And even still I do in fact think that in a USA, that is governed by the democratic party under the Kamala-Walz administration, there would be more opportunities to take actions, organization that can make progress against circumcision, and taking action and organizing would be easier too(while still harder than voting), compared to the the alternative USA.

Here is a good video about what to do after the election is over(aka.: now) :3

https://youtu.be/71Ue5Qy6w1w?t=347 watch it until nearly the end.

Here is another one: https://youtu.be/xYtv1hK5Jw0

(naturally, I do not agree with or am associated with everything these people stand for. No one is perfect blabla)

Direct action and organization is king <3

Example of direct action: Talk about male genital mutilation with female and intersex genital mutilation groups, they usually don't know anything about it and from what I heard, they tend to receive it well and these groups and organization tend to have a lot more reach and power than male genital mutilation focused ones.

Example 2: We should try to win over Robert Kennedy Jr. and other populists to our side on this issue.

I can't answer everything and I do not mean to preach the ultimate truth about everything, I want to have intelligent discussions with all of you.

So excuse me for not being able to do much discussion, I have personal stuff that gets in the way.

I am very thankful for all your challenging texts and I am happy to see some people have rational information sharing arguments and debates!<3

My heart goes out to you all on this fateful day, a solemn and disappointing one for many of you - male and female alike. But our cause is apolitical and progress will happen regardless of who gets in. Don't spend too much time online, look after yourself, go outside and appreciate your beautiful country if you can. Progress is slow, hard, frustrating and depressing but we have each other.

I posted here a few weeks ago saying that I wouldn’t vote and I got the typical responses I expected, telling me how privileged I am and that if Trump gets elected, he will literally become the next Hitler. Interestingly, these comments seemed to be coming from people who rarely if ever post on this sub. But there were some thoughtful comments and I agree that voting for Kamala is voting for bodily autonomy, which I support. I’ll keep voting pro choice and continue to call pro choice people out when they claim that infant circumcision is ok cough Planned Parenthood cough

I used to have a mega folder that someone made full of videos studies Infograph’s images etc on circ redpills. But it’s deleted. I’m getting back into the fight and working on a secret project. If anyone has resources please add me or pm. Also I’m looking for likeminded people who want to put some real work into this.

Peace

isn't it ironic a country that spouts about its freedoms strips you of it at birth if you have XY chromosomes?

I think that we ignore the cons of circumcision too much. Well not us, but the general public. So here's a list of cons i could find:

1. Exposure

When one is the glans is very exposed, i mean when you push on your glans trough your pants in comparison to other parts, it WILL be way more sensitive and annoying, imagine getting hit with an football.

2. Clothing

Your exposed glans is also very dry, so when you wear underwear and it just scrapes past a seam it hurts like hell, flaky skin may even come off, you'll spend hours searching for underwear with no seams while watching other men laugh or you just suck it up.

3. The glans itself

The common myth that a protective layer will form over the glans is absolute bullshit. What actually happens is that the glans, an organ who needs to be wet and hydrated under the foreskin starts to dry out, and when it does, it's gonna flake, the surface skin is gonna tear. Small cracks will form on your glans wich will get bigger and bigger, the egde of the glans will fade from red to a just lighter color, it's say more sensitive than the middle of the glans. Skin from the sides of your uretha will start to hang loose and you will have some very small plumps of loose skin.

4. Showering

Ahh yes, showering, water pressure on your exposed sensitive glans? Sounds like a drean doesn't it?

5. Looks.

Circumcision scars are usually very ugly.

6. Comments from other people.

This hurts me the most, in Europe circumcison isn't widely practiced as in the US. But some comments i used to hear from high school to now are "I have a genetic advantage over you" "Why does it look so ugly ew what the fuck" "What happened to you"

7. Confidence and insecurity.

People tend to feel like their bodies are unfair and incomplete like they can't satisfy a person sexually let alone themselves.

There are probably way more cons and reasons and feel free to share them, but the most important part is getting over it, so that's what i'm also asking you guys: how should a person get over this?

Hello,

Im 36, and saddly on the same boat as most of you. Im not english speaking so I hope my words are clear.

Iam planning to see a psychologist, in order to talk about... things, live events, depression, anxiety, and so on.

Of course, I cant talk deeply about myself without addressing the subject of my circumcision, done at the age of 9. Which simply ruined a whole part of my life.

It might sound weird, but I have a question about the choice (if a choice is posible) of the psychologist gender.

If its a man, having a penis, he can maybe better understand what circumcision is. But in the same time, he will probably be intact (Im in Europe, Circ % is not super high), placing me - by design - in a position of inferiority (he is intact, Iam not anymore). In the other hand, if he is circumcised, he probably wont face my negative and harsh thoughts or observations about what has been done to me, what I have lost, what I'll never have. He could transfer his denial on me. Of course I wont know if he is circumcised or not, its more symbolic.

If its a woman, she of course dont have a penis, mutilated or not. Can it be an advantage? She can be more "neutral" about it and after listening/understanding what I have to say, have a more objective view. A distance allowing for more objectivity. Also women carry life, child whose intact body has been trashed by the cicumciion. That been said my circumcision was initiated by a stupid school nurse... a woman. (But I guess this is more about incompetence than gender). Maybe they are also more empathetic?

Also maybe males tends to easyly minize what circumcison is and the conséquences (+ everything around it, ethics, useless surgery, physical sexual and psycological impacts, etc.). I dont know if this is a "male thing", im just thinking.

Or just, male of female, they are professionals and they can listen, understand, and objectfy "no matter what"?

Im not asking you to tell me what to choose, more for your thoughts and experiences.

Thank you.

As a community , we’re very invested in science but I can’t help but see the science as a company when it comes to the question of MGM. I am pro-choice, pro-vax and I appreciate the medical sciences for all the developments that they’ve come up with. However when the topic of the MGM ritual comes up, I’m disillusioned by the articles resulting with « no meaningful data has been detected when compared the circumcised and non-circumcised males » or « it has been found that uncircumcised males have been experiencing more STIs in comparison to the circumcised men ». These are lies. You CANNOT compare the sexual satisfaction of mutilated and intact men because neither of those have the experience to claim anything about the other side. You can’t say foreskin causes infections without making sure that the subject pays attention to his hygiene. I’m exhausted by articles ending with « further research is needed » for they do nothing but endorse mutilation. I can’t believe we need fucking science that has been falsified for decades to finally say that MGM is HARMFUL instead of « unnecessary ». I personally don’t need science to say shit about a primitive ritual. Be a mother. Be a father. Know your place. Protect your fucking newborn as the mammal that you’re supposed to be.

I’m curious about something.

A lot of guys here and in the foreskin restoration community talk about how there’s no pleasure until orgasm and that sex feels pretty meh for them. I just don’t understand that, as I am also circumcised. I enjoy being touched, the buildup to orgasm feels natural, and sex is fulfilling for me.

Granted, I’m pissed off and feel like something is missing—however it’s more like, "Man, something is missing without my consent, and even the best sex I’ve ever had could have been better."

Do some of you actually not feel stimulated at all when fooling around other than orgasm? Is an orgasm a complete surprise with no buildup? Is this something that happens only with really low and tight cuts? Is this possibly where the cliche that men hate foreplay comes from? Why do you think some circumcised men experience the lack of buildup and pleasure but others do?

In Turkey, pro circumcision people use the arguments "If circumcision is popular in USA, then it must be beneficial" Or "Even the most developed country in the world does it".

This argument is so strong that even non religious families trust this and cut their babies. How can I respond these arguments?

I am not human, but more of an ant, you see. Ants do not enjoy sex. Maybe I am as insignificant as one? Nobody cares about their consent, too, just like how my consent was not cared about. They work their ass off, for what? I deeply relate to them. I don't matter in the slightest. I'm basically lifeless, a husk of a person, a zombie. My question to any intact person, how does it feel to be somebody real?

I am from Turkey. An ex muslim. Since 17, I don't believe in God. I hate all religions, especially Islam.

After being an atheist, I thought I could free myself from this demonic religion. However, at the age of 10 they marked me. They marked me as their follower. Now I cannot run away from Islam. Wherever I go in the world, whatever I do, Islam is always going to be with me.

Whenever I look at my penis, I remember this religion. I hate it.

Does anyone else feel like it takes forever to get any pleasure when masturbating? I constantly see porn of intact guys that moan in ecstasy when their foreskin or head is touched even if they aren’t erect. I’m so jealous with seeing other guys get more pleasure with their, more often girthier erect penises, than I’ll ever experience with my penis.

How do you other circumsized guys masturbate to get any pleasure from your erect penises?

The only thing that really that bugs me about the practice is the degradation of knowing that I was conquered by someone. I honestly don't give a ---- that it causes life-long sexual dysfunction, and would feel the same way if someone had poked out one of my eyeballs. PPA = Partial Penis Amputation. We need to stop using the euphemistic language of our enemies.

i become enraged whenever i see people say this.. why should I give a SHIT?? i will never have mine so why should i give a FUCK? it just makes it even more unfortunate that it happened to me.

I swear the second i saw hair growing on my dick is the day i decided to commit to restoration

When i see what my male friends have... my heart sinks and hurts. I really really want to be normal too, but it will never happen. I will die mutilated. This is the most devastating feeling. How can life come to this? I've never experienced the normal penis, the normal gliding action, and that just makes me feel so gutted and upset. It's heartbreaking. Where the fuck is my foreskin at?? Oh yeah, my dad didn't like me having something he didn't, and he found me unacceptable as i was, so he paid to have it cut off. What a bellend. Seriously, pos father. Any father that does this is a pos father. He hurt me, gaslight me, and he's the reason I'm hurting today. Fuck him

Whenever my father messages me, my blood boils. I'm sorry to unload my baggage here(although it's the only place i feel better in) how can he say " well, i didn't want you having an elephant trunk!" And the " me and your mother are the real victims. Your reaction typifies you- immature, pathetic" And he said all the time" i don't care if i have cut off your sexual pleasure, or anything like that. That stuff isn't important, we are muslims, i am from morocco, i have a traditional attitude, i know circumcision isn't medicine, i wasn't doing it for your health or benefit, i knew that. I did it because it's in our bloodline and because it's part of my identity and culture" And he maintains he doesn't care about consent. He's been delusional for years, a pathetic coward in denial. I understand there's a human aspect to this, and i feel bad for him, i really do, but he is a fool. I've tried asking him why consent didn't matter, he said recently to me after having an argument " if i hadn't cut you at 7 years old, i would have done it at 8. And so on. I believe this is only a decision for parents " I asked him if he would have forcibly cut me as an adult and if that was appropriate. He said" yes, i would have, they do it in african tribes, it's part of our culture". It's just so cowardly! He knew full well I'd never want a circumcision when i was older He's told me that a dry penis is probably just winter and cold and that i should seek psychological help, because " your thoughts and feelings are so out of line with what a normal person thinks. No one thinks like this about genital cutting rituals in our family, no one else objects, you are an embarrassment". I'm sorry to keep ranting here. I'm sorry to keep coming here and bringing the mood down. It's just so upsetting.

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I was looking for a video I watched in the past and I came across this Video and I wanna throw up now.

I’m sorry this is a downer post. I generally hold a positive attitude when I post/comment about intactivism/restoring. But I hit a spot where I’ve recognized that we all are actually disabled people trying to pass as able-bodied people. All these posts about “What CI do you think I am?” or “Do you guys think I still have any frenulum left?” really make me deeply sad and angry. I feel like we’re a group of men trying to figure out what our dicks look like in comparison to this hypothetical version that we’ll never know what it’d look like if we were simply left to be.

The chapter is titled, "fun with a foreskin". And the best part, it paints the foreskin in a positive light. It starts off with an anonymous letter to the author stating that her most recent lover was intact and that her "sexual arousal rate went up 200%."

It even went into great detail about what the foreskin is and its functions. When the chapter first brings up circumcision, it says, "Circumcision removes almost 50% of the skin of the penis. This includes the rigged band and most of the frenulum delta. Scar tissue is left in its place."

Also, when phimosis is brought up, it recommends steroid cream and other non-surgical options that let you keep your foreskin, but says that circumcision should only be done as a last resort or if the phimosis is due to scaring.

There's also an entire section for parents on how to take care of a baby boy's foreskin.

With all of this I mentioned, it feels as if this chapter was written by an intactivist, and you'd be correct. The last page of this chapter gives credit to Marlilyn Milos of NOCIRC.org and Darius Paduch.

We're making progress when the intactivists have helped out with a sex-ed book!

"Nobody could be that evil!" - A quote from both Eric Clopper's Sex & Circumcision and Transformers: One.

It's absurd how well this movie works as an allegory for circumcision. Spoiler Alert but the movie's central plot point is the theft of Transformation cogs from every "newborn" Transformer so they can be sold to offworlders (much like the sale of foreskin fibroblasts), disfiguring young Cybertronians and leaving them without the ability to Transform. This is kept secret from them until the main cast meets an ancient Transformer from before the practice began, and the protagonists have to get the word out to the populace that they've all been secretly mutilated.

The way Megatron's Decepticon symbol is jaggedly carved into his chest by someone else is even reminiscent of a botched circumcision like mine.

You can watch the movie for free here: Watch Transformers One 2024 full movie on Fmovies

I think they must seriously think that being branded is a form of love. I think they must seriously think that. I keep trying to get into the heads of the women I've known who've done this to their sons and I honestly think it ranges from actual apathy to really thinking that they're doing a loving thing. I just don't understand it though. I just don't. How could it be loving to brand a child?

Circumcision is a branding. It is. That's how this practice originally evolved in our species. It's like any other time one human being brands another human being except that instead of a "I'm unbranded and you are my branded property" thing it's a "WE'RE ALL BRANDED PROPERTY HERE, ONE OF US, ONE OF US!" type thing (minus the fact that, in many cultures which practice circumcision, the women aren't individually branded themselves, only the males, so the mother having it done adds another layer of salt to the wound).

Culture and father's status are the best predictors of whether the boy will be cut or not. It's considered a part of being in the family - BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILD?! The. CHILD. All I can think is how gross it would be for me to symbolically be present in their future sex life and about how the kid would feel while being taken away to be cut. I suppose I am using what they call "empathy" - which also confuses me, females birth babies, we're supposed to give all our attention to the little one in front of us, not to outside forces like those that lead to circumcision... (I'm not saying women have an obligation to have a kid, but when we do it becomes our duty to care for them).

It's not like I oppose all family traditions and family ties. My mom kept her maiden name and now my last name is hers and my maternal grandfather's. That's cool. I like it. Being tied to them like that is fine and dandy.

Would be a different story if they'd tied my genitals to them instead...

Since I got circumcised 9 years ago i still have like a Ring around my penis