Hajdu said the Liberal government is a strong supporter of organized labour and workers' rights and still hopes for a negotiated settlement, but the labour disruption has caused problems for small businesses, people in rural and remote communities and low-income Canadians relying on cheques to pay bills.

"We also have a responsibility to all Canadians and to the businesses that drive our economy, and when the consequences of a work stoppage become so great that they begin to result in serious or lasting harm, we must act," she said.

'We're outraged': Union rips Liberal back-to-work bill for Canada Post carriers

Why are they making us feel this pain now? What has changed since 2018 (when the strikes were rotating)?

So many posts about people not getting critical mail like money, passports, payments and others. The even sadder part is that some kids won't get Xmas presents this year because of the strike. Even if workers went back to work Monday, who knows if the backlog would be processed before Xmas morning.

CUPW has been negotiating for some time and deliberately chose now to strike in hopes they apply pressure on the govt to win their case. But, they're going to be the ones swooping down chimneys and stealing the gifts the kids should be receiving. You should be ashamed and embarrassed. I know I am for you.

I understand not all staff want this to happen and I hope they get a fair offer. For the others who are fighting to keep the service stopped, I truly hope your heart grows three sizes real soon.

Some people are rightfully unhappy that their mail and essentials are not being delivered, but the volume of hate in this sub seems very high.

Foreign influence in social media is very real. Think for yourself and those Canada Post workers that are trying to survive our high costs of living before jumping on the hate train.

None of the striking CP workers have any access to your mail. If you want your packages Canada Post management could give them to you if they chose to do so. At this moment they are still being paid to work.

At what point do the workers lose so much wages during the strike that even the raise they want won't make them "while"? And similarly, CP losing so much business, if they win and get labour cheap, they'll have hemorrhaged so much money they still aren't profitable.

Two sides are too far apart government came out saying they wont intervene we are all cooked. Its highly unrealistic for the union to demand what they have considering the letter delivery model is dying. Think about it when was the last time you wrote a letter? Asking to be paid more when the industry is dying is delusional i understand you want to get paid at market value but you cant if the company is going under. Canada post has a monopoly for an industry that is going out of business, thats why they invested all of their assets into buying new vehicles in inventory because that’s the only way they can compete as a parcel delivery service. You cant compete with amazon and other delivery services if you don’t modernize your business model. The only way i see this to be viable is if they downsize and let go of mail carriers because there simply is no need for them to be delivering this late into the day when there is nothing to deliver. They can still provide delivery services to rural canada but there is no need to show up to every mail box everyday anymore. I hope they can come to a common ground soon because sooner or later the union will run out of funds and there will be a wave of completely avoidable homelessness. You cant even blame CP they know they are going under and are trying to convert the business model, if a strike will let them do that faster I’m not surprised they didn’t allow a rolling strike to happen.

I would love to be a postman. I'd do it for minimum wage. I've applied hundreds of time. Get paid to exercise. I'd love it. Fire the lazy strikers and hire people like me.

I'm sure that they don't pay their workers enough. But I'm also sure that what the workers are now demanding is something ridiculous. Just come to an agreement of something fair already and get back to work!

Why do you all think inflating Canadas general labour wages and benefits is a good thing?

Here are my arguments against:

Inflating general labour deters foreign investment and domestic growth. Hence why so many manufacturing jobs have gone overseas. It’s a clear indicator of strangling growth.
If small businesses are to grow. They need to be able to scale up. And to be able to afford a workforce. Labour is the highest cost of doing business in any business.

By inflating wages we inflate the economy hence weaken our dollar. This is the greatest threat to Canada right now. Once we devalue our dollar so far. You will see the mega rich buy up all our businesses and resources at pennies on the dollar of true value. We need to protect that.

Growth requires innovation and technology in today’s world economic landscape. We need to educate ourselves and train in trades and high skilled jobs to be able to adapt in the ever changing marketplace.

What you’re asking for is for us to continue to trend in the direction of rich giving to poor. This is the downfall of the economy. Our country was not built on those concepts.

Please explain in a logical way why you think different. I will agree. Ideologically it sounds like an excellent idea. But in reality it is the exact opposite. We who understand this have a hard time being sympathetic.

If you want more out of life. Train and educate and the opportunity you want is there. Canada is. First world nation and are desperate for skilled workers.

Can you refute any of this with a reasonable argument not just how you feel?

Fuck Canada Post Fuck the Union Fuck Canada

Since last friday, they are joining other major Postal services around the world (UK, USA, Japan, etc.). Mail and packages to Canada are suspended until further notice (no new entries accepted).

End the strike. Now.

Canada Post loses billions every year, but why? Because the business model is broken. No one needs mail delivery 5 days a week. If I got my mail once a week that would be fine. As for packages, delivery to my door is important and they don't do that. I no longer need nor want the service that I am paying for through federal taxes. Postal fees don't cover their operating costs so the government has to subsidize them. I bet they could cut their workforce by 50%, offer a lower level of service and different service and become profitable.

Most people don't want / need what they offer, the way they offer it, anymore.

So, there are like millions of parcels and letter mail just sitting in CP limbo right now, for weeks on end... if we do eventually receive them, will we be financially compensated for not only the cruel and unusual treatment but also the likelihood of many packages being damaged or lost in transit? I've seen people worried because they ordered medication, food, live plants, fragile glass objects, legal documents like passports, birth certificates and legal change of name records...

✨May the union members all end up with explosive diarrhea on Christmas Eve that lasts until the first new spring grass arrives.✨

Yeah I'm pissed right now. You greedy bums don't even care, do you? You only care about getting more money for yourselves and your families, like a den of big lazy bears hoarding other people's belongings. You don't care if it hurts or damages the lives of other people. You've conveniently convinced yourselves that this thing will only affect trivial items, like children's toys and books ordered for Christmas, but that isn't true. I think the Canadian people should have a class-action lawsuit against this ridiculous, selfish nonsense.

Also, here are the top 3 ways you can spot a butthurt union supporter on Reddit:

#1) Accusing any criticism of CUPW as being from a "troll" account, even accounts that are old or obviously linked to a real person

#2) Posting "OK boomer" as a response to everything (which shows the mental level of these people to be at about the age of 12 even though I swear a lot of them are at least 35 or older)

#3) Trying to make you feel like the bad one by trivializing your concerns and suggesting that the only mail being affected is Christmas presents

Also note that most anti-CP posts here get a TON of overwhelming support until late afternoon, which is when the union supporters log onto Reddit and begin the usual daily task of trying to deflect, downvote and hide anything critical of the union that's been posted.

There’s a lot of negativity in this subreddit.

Let’s remember that postal workers are unionized employees with the right to strike. Inflation has eroded everyone’s earnings, not just postal workers. This is their opportunity to get some of their eroded earnings back.

And yes, they are using the timing as leverage, as they should and any of you would. It’s inconvenient, absolutely. But I still can see what CUPW is trying to achieve and support them.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saying-canadian-union-of-postal-workers-supports-hamas-was-not-libel-ontario-court-rules

Canada post employees were terrible at their job and getting paid very well for it, just shows the selfishness of this strike.

We ‘ll have our packages by the 16th. The union has no bargaining power left. They overplayed there hand and holding Canadians hostage has not aged well as a tactic and they know it. Keep up the good work people together we’ll crush this greedy union and retrieve our belongings.

-the Canadian people

Accounts that are years old but 0 karma, no comments or posts outside the past month or two, all waking up like zombies to hate on CP. I’ll bet you have a hard time!

Edit: look how they swarm like moths to a flame. Most likely these are all the same person behind one screen, I encourage anyone with a pulse reading this to see my comment tracking replies below these accounts to see just how active these “people” are here. Dozens of posts a day, some hundreds, only here, only about the union, and no breaks for sleep. 24/7. See for yourself.

How’s your vacation?

Hi all!

I've been seeing a lot of hate directed towards the Canada post employees currently striking, and I think this might be some misdirected anger.

Yes, there are some essential packages that have been stuck in the system due to the strike and that's horrible. I'm truly sorry for the delays and stress this has caused.

At the same time, CP is not a private Corp and I'm very glad of this. Private corps would not provide the necessary service to cover all of our great country, because it is simply not profitable. Instead of delays, for many it would be 0 service.

Should this stop us from affording our postal workers wages that keep up with inflation? That might even help them address the ridiculous housing markets across the country?

This strike shouldn't be necessary. We should already be paying public servants well enough to afford homes and happy lives. Instead, the management tries to cut and delay raises while subsidies continue to be put into dirty busin ess(oil), and our richest keep hoarding insane amounts of wealth.

That wealth is the real problem. The coopting of of our government for capital motives is the problem. A 2 party system where neither represents us, but both make you feel self-righteous and elite for taking their side is the problem.

Without billionaires, those essential packages would be at your door. Better yet, you could reorder them with little worry for the cost. This artificial scarcity is the problem, and we should all be standing together against it.

Happy holidays, everyone!

I don't need my stuff getting "Lost" never to be seen again

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/the-only-way-to-save-canada-post-is-to-privatize-it

I was reading an article on the strike and saw the following quote:

"especially over the issue of allowing temporary workers to help expand the company's delivery to seven-days-a-week."

I did some digging after that and it looks like management is trying to go the same route as tim hortons, most other fast food places, every security company, walmarts, and all the customer service positions to exploit the LMIA and TFW system.

It looks like the goal is to bring in thousands of part time workers to fill some 'problem' shifts in the short term as a way to cut full time positions and further suppress the wages of canadian citizens and permanent residents.

With this in mind, anyone who doesn't support trudeau's open door policies allowing big businesses to exploit foreign workers and suppress our wages should be supporting the union in their fight. By taking a stand here, they're protecting you by making it less likely for your emoyer to cut your benefits, hire part time TFWs to take your hours, and suppress your wages.

Admit it, who is their biggest client? It’s not a tax payer with their pesky passports, wigs for cancer children, Christmas cards or small business deliveries.

Canada Post’s biggest clients are Walmart, Loblaws, Canadian Tire and whatever else, whose flyers are delivered to you without your consent.

These corporations are targeted and pressed by this strike, and it will be them, who will lobby for getting more funds out of taxpayer pockets to support their businesses.

Until then, unhappy peasants, you quietly wait for your wigs, passports and cards.

Fuck all of them.

Genuine question. I have a package that was mailed through USPS on November 23. This was a week after the strike was announced. Why the heck than is that package now sitting in limbo. At that point USPS had full knowledge of the strike.

C'mon guys. This is getting ridiculous.

The Canadian public no longer supports you. Isn't that a sign to shut up and go home?

If any of us withheld our neighbours mail, we'd be on the hook for $5000 and/or six months in jail. But when the post does it, it's fine??

I have a package that Purolator currently has possession of but the final delivery is meant to be carried out by Canada post because of a fairly remote final destination. I went to Purolator and they will not give me my package. Is there anything I can do? It's a bit ridiculous that I can't be given this package that's not even in the hand of Canada post.