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World of KJ - another popular box office forum.

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Deadline - has the most comprehensive box office analysis of all the trades.

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entgroup.cn - reports on the Chinese box office regularly.

Korean Film Council - updates on Korean box office numbers.

InsideKino - mostly german box office though it has admissions and revenue data on a variety of other, mostly European, markets.

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Disney's Mufasa: The Lion King grossed $926K on Monday (from 3,620 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $190.72M.

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2025/01/14
21:19 UTC

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Hawaii - Lilo & Stitch added $15M in QE (on top of $52M in 2023) generating an aggregate 14M in tax credits. D&W spent 308k in Hawaii. Wrecking Crew spent 4.5M (mainly shot in NZ) w/ a 0.9M tax credit

source

So Lilo & Stitch spent ~53M actually filming in Hawaii and an unknown amount elsewhere working on VFX. Either way I believe it supports the contention the film is going to have a lower budget than other recent live action adaptations.

Wrecking Crew is an Amazon film staring Momoa and Bautista

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2025/01/14
20:46 UTC

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Highest-grossing movies of 2024 in Romania. The highlighted column is the total gross, the last column is the opening weekend (in RON)

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2025/01/14
18:28 UTC

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In China Sonic 3 in 5th grossed $0.23M/$2.21M on Tuesday. +22% vs yesterday and +66% Sonic's 1st Tuesday. Octopus with Broken Arms leads the daily BO with $1.83M(-15%)/$97.17M while Mufasa: TLK in 10th adds $0.10M(+23%)/$14.99M. Detective Chinatown 1900 gets PLF posters.

https://preview.redd.it/lfnj2boruzce1.png?width=606&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e4e118c1304d9434ad111cfa3fe41da2ef0c618


#Daily Box Office(January 14th 2024)

The market hits ¥41.9M/$57.1M which is up +2% from yesterday and down -8% versus last week.

Sonic 3 grossed $0.23M on Tuesday and crossed $2M. First Monday +66% versus Sonic 1 as its only a matter of time before Sonic 3 outgrosses the first movies total. At the lattest this should happen on Friday/Saturday.

With Spring Festival rapidly approaching this week should see a lot of promotional material start to hit for movies. 2nd trailers, posters etc... Followed by pre-sales starting next week.

Tuesday saw the release of Detective Chinatown 1900's PLF format posters. The movie will release in IMAX, Dolby, CGS and CINITY

Today also saw the release of a behind the scenes video of Operation Leviathan which has now been renamed to Operation Hadal. This is rumored to be one of the more expensive Chinese movies ever made.


Here's a look how this years movies stack on Maoyans anticipation metric vs most other post covid Spring Festival blockbusters.

https://i.imgur.com/Cxf1GsB.png

Detective Chinatown 1900 and Ne Zha 2 have already exceeded the final number of YOLO which went on to be last years Champion. Detective Chinatown 1900 will exceed Pegasus 2's final number tomorrow with 2 weeks till release making it more anticipated by this metric than any movie last year. Then it will remain to be seen if it can push above 1M to join Hi Mom!, Battle At Lake Changjin II and 2023's duo of The Wandering Earth 2 and Ful River Red.

The only movie missing from the chart from the post Covid years is Detective Chinatown 3 which would break the scale with its massive final number of 4.4M. A number far beyond any other movie on this metric ever.


Province map of the day:

Octopus with Broken Arms finnaly sweeps after Big World loses its last holdout province.

https://imgsli.com/MzM4MTU4

In Metropolitan cities:

Octopus with Broken Arms wins Beijing, Chongqing, Chengdu, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Wuhan, Suzhou, Nanjing and Hangzhou and Shanghai

City tiers:

Honey Money Phony overtakes Big World in T4.

Tier 1: Octopus with Broken Arms>Honey Money Phony>Big World

Tier 2: Octopus with Broken Arms>Honey Money Phony>Big World

Tier 3: Octopus with Broken Arms>Honey Money Phony>Big World

Tier 4: Octopus with Broken Arms>Honey Money Phony>Big World


#MovieGross%YD%LWScreeningsAdmisions(Today)Total GrossProjected Total Gross
1Octopus with Broken Arms$1.83M-1%-15%896040.32M$97.17M$112M-$119M
2Honey Money Phony$1.15M+1%-7%620530.25M$41.98M$52M-$59M
3Big World$0.98M-3%-36%637430.18M$91.92M$100M-$103M
4Fake Dad$0.27M+4%295270.05M$2.75M$4M-$6M
5Sonic 3$0.23M+22%192090.04M$2.21M$4M-$6M
6Hot Pot Artist$0.20M+11%-30%138720.05M$4.70M$6M-$7M
7The Proscecutor$0.20M-12%-20%118500.04M$33.36M$34M-$36M
8Detective Conan 7$0.18M+13%+14%126780.04M$15.88M$17M-$19M
9Beyond The Sin$0.12M-14%219720.02M$1.23M$2M-$3M
10Mufasa: The Lion King$0.10M+11%+23%63120.02M$14.99M$16M-$17M
*YD=Yesterday, LW=Last Week,

Pre-Sales map for tomorrow

Big World's dominance on pre-sales continues to crumble.

https://i.imgur.com/BZ8Dk9w.png


###Big World

Big World falls below $1M for the first time in its run today as it nears $92M

WoM figures:

Maoyan: 9.3, Taopiaopiao: 9.6, Douban: 7.2

Gender Split(M-W): 15-85

Age Split: Under 20: 18.2%, 20-24: 38.2%, 25-29: 22.4%, 30-34: 10.7%, 35-39: 4.7%, Over 40: 5.8%

City Tiers: T1: 16.4%, T2: 51.5%, T3: 15.0%, T4: 17.0%

Most Popular Province: Guangdong: 12.3%

Most Popular City: Shanghai: 4.8%

Screen Distribution Split: Regular: 97.7%, Rest: 3.3%

Language split: Mandarin: 100%

|#|FRI|SAT|SUN|MON|TUE|WED|THU|Total| |:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:| |Second Week|$3.02M|$4.75M|$3.59M|$1.60M|$1.53M|$1.53M|$1.46M|$83.60M |Third Week|$1.76M|$2.52M|$2.05M|$1.01M|$0.98M|/|/|$91.92M |%± LW|-42%|-47%|-43%|-37%|-36%|/|/|/|

Scheduled showings update for Big World for the next few days:

DayNumber of ShowingsPresalesProjection
Today63371$110k$0.92M-$0.94M
Wednesday63465$123k$0.90M-$0.98M
Thursday41503$44k$0.83M-$0.93M

###Octopus with Broken Arms

Octopus with Broken Arms meanwhile almost flat from yesterday continues to race towards $100M. It should cross the mark on Thursday.

WoM figures:

Maoyan: 9.0 , Taopiaopiao: 9.4, Douban: 6.1

Gender Split(M-W): 50-50

Age Split: Under 20: 5.7%, 20-24: 24.0%, 25-29: 26.8%, 30-34: 16.5%, 35-39: 11.8%, Over 40: 15.2%

City Tiers: T1: 25.8%, T2: 49.2%, T3: 12.9%, T4: 12.1%

Most Popular Province: Guangdong: 14.0%

Most Popular City: Shanghai: 8.8%

Screen Distribution Split: Regular: 90.5%, IMAX: 7.3, Rest: 2.2%

Language split: Mandarin: 100%

|#|SAT|SUN|MON|TUE|WED|THU|FRI|Total| |:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:| |Second Week|$6.77M|$4.97M|$2.26M|$2.16M|$2.17M|$2.14M|$2.66M|$85.73M |Third Week|$4.23M|$3.55M|$1.83M|$1.83M|/|/|/|$97.17M |%± LW|-38%|-29%|-19%|-15%|/|/|/|/|

Scheduled showings update for Octopus with Broken Arms for the next few days:

DayNumber of ShowingsPresalesProjection
Today88693$111k$1.73M-$1.77M
Wednesday89649$133k$1.66M-$1.86M
Thursday60124$23k$1.53M-$1.79M

###Mufasa: The Lion King

Mufasa continues persom well late into its run. Tomorrow it will cross $15M

WoM figures:

Maoyan: 9.0, Taopiaopiao: 9.3, Douban: 6.6

Gender Split(M-W): 38-62

Age Split: Under 20: 5.0%, 20-24: 17.4%, 25-29: 21.1%, 30-34: 20.9%, 35-39: 15.8%, Over 40: 19.8%

City Tiers: T1: 29.3%, T2: 52.4%, T3: 9.8%, T4: 8.5%

Most Popular Province: Guangdong: 14.3%

Most Popular City: Shanghai: 10.6%

Screen Distribution Split: Regular: 87.4%, IMAX: 7.8%, Rest: 2.0%

Language split: English Version: 48.5%, Mandarin: 51.5%

|#|FRI|SAT|SUN|MON|TUE|WED|THU|Total| |:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:|:-----------:| |Third Week|$0.10M|$0.35M|$0.34M|$0.06M|$0.08M|$0.10M|$0.11M|$14.12M |Fourth Week|$0.12M|$0.27M|$0.29M|$0.09M|$0.10M|/|/|$14.99M |%± LW|+20%|-23%|-14%|+50%|+23%|/|/|/|

Scheduled showings update for Mufasa: The Lion King for the next few days:

DayNumber of ShowingsPresalesProjection
Today6243$17k$0.09M-$0.11M
Wednesday6743$14k$0.09M-$0.11M
Thursday2709$3k$0.08M-$0.10M

#Other stuff:

The next Holywood release is Captain America 4 which will release on February 14th.


#Release Schedule:

A table including upcoming movies in the next month alongside trailers linked in the name of the movie, Want To See data from both Maoyan and Taopiaopiao alongside the Gender split and genre.

Remember Want To See is not pre-sales. Its just an anticipation metric. A checkbox of sorts saying your interested in an upcoming movie.

Not all movies are included since a lot are just too small to be worth covering.


January:

January for now remains baren. It will be an incredibly backloaded month with Spring Festival starting on the 29th. All 6 movies have now been officialy confirmed.

The Next Boonie Bears movie. China's prime animation franchise which has been a Spring Festival mainstay for a decade now with next year being the 11th consecutive year a Boonie Bears movie releases for Spring Festival. The franchise has seen a steady increase in box office with last years movie hitting a franchise peak $280M+

The Legend of the Condor Heroes. A longtime anticipated Marshal arts movie which will look to make good on the fan hype behind it.

Ne Zha 2 the follow up to Nezha from 2019 which to this day remains the biggest animation of all time in a single market with $740M+ will be one of the prime contenders for the crown.

Detective Chinatown 1900. The Sequel or better said Prequel will try to wash away the incredibly bad reception of DC3. A movie which opened to a record breaking $399M across 3 days beating out End Game's US opening. But only grossed $680M+.

And last and maybe least Operation Hadal. A followup to 2018's massive success Operation Red Sea which grossed $579M. This movie will look to push back against the ever decresing gross of military movies in the past 2 years.

MovieMaoyan WTSDaily IncreaseTaopiaopiao WTSDaily IncreaseM/W %GenreRelease Date3rd party media projections
Detective Chinatown 1900772k+35k211k+18k36/64Drama/Comedy29.01$436-512M
Ne Zha 2668k+27k358k+15k38/62Animation/Fantasy29.01$518-614M
The Legend of the Condor Heroes534k+17k1041k+16k22/78Martial Arts29.01$106-123M
Creation Of The Gods Part 2505k+27k1204k+27k43/57War/Fantasy29.01$382-410M
Boonie Bears:Future Reborn279k+9k150k+4k35/65Animation/Comedy29.01$205-218M
Operation Hadal166k+9k177k+7k41/59Drama/Action29.01$68-109M

February

Captain America 4 is confirmed for a February 14th release.

MovieMaoyan WTSDaily IncreaseTaopiaopiao WTSDaily IncreaseM/W %GenreRelease Date3rd party media projections
Captain America 4: Brave New World97k+4k81k+4k52/48Comic Book/Action14.02$18-43M
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2025/01/14
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The Alto Knights | Official Trailer

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2025/01/14
17:00 UTC

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The Woman In The Yard | Official Trailer. Predictions?

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2025/01/14
16:01 UTC

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$1M CLUB: NUMBED MONDAY 1. DEN OF THIEVES 2 ($1M)

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2025/01/14
16:00 UTC

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Is PVOD Hurting Wicked's Box Office? - Charts with Dan!

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2025/01/14
15:01 UTC

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UNTIL DAWN – Film First Look

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2025/01/14
14:18 UTC

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TREMORS turns 35 this week. The 6.4-10M budgeted monster movie only grossed 16.7M domestically but was a huge hit on the home video market, leading to several DTV sequels.

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2025/01/14
13:20 UTC

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JAILER 2 - Announcement Teaser | Superstar Rajinikanth | Sun Pictures | Nelson | Anirudh

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2025/01/14
13:12 UTC

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Could something in December 2026 underperform due to the amount of competition?

As of January 2025, there are 4 films currently scheduled for December 2026: Shrek 5, Ice Age 6, Dune Messiah and Jumanji 4. 3/4 of the films (Shrek, Jumanji, Dune) had their most recent predecessor gross over $700m worldwide, with Ice Age having its third and fourth film gross over $700m. With this number of massive franchises having films stacked in a single month within 12 days of each other, could the competition at least one of these underperform?

The holiday season is usually a time where many families go to the movies with others, but usually most years don't have this many popular franchises have films coming out in a single month. This will make people choose which one to see out of the 4, potentially causing some of the others to underperform. And if Sony decides to move Spider-Man 4 to December, that will make things even worse.

Out of all four that could underperform, I would say either Ice Age 6 or Jumanji 4 would be most likely. Dune Messiah is coming out during awards season which could help its gross especially if better than the other two, and even if Shrek 5 has negative reviews it would still likely have a massive opening weekend as it would be 16.5 years since the last Shrek film (longer than the gaps between Jurassic Park-Jurassic World (14 years) and Return of the Jedi-The Phantom Menace (16 years) , with no new media (television shows) excluding Puss in Boots. Millennials and Gen Z would likely come out in droves opening weekend, the former bringing their Gen Alpha kids to see it.

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2025/01/14
12:28 UTC

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🇩🇪 German Weekend Box Office January 9-12: Mufasa The Lion King continues the reign.

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2025/01/14
09:50 UTC

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THE SPY NEXT DOOR opened fifteen years ago this week. Its performance of a $24.3mil domestic total and $45.2mil global total disappointed against its $28mil budget.

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2025/01/14
05:29 UTC

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PADDINGTON opened ten years ago this week. It grossed an estimated $19mil on its opening weekend and legged out to a domestic total of $76.3mil. It grossed more than $268mil worldwide and was a success, with several sequels released in 2018 and 2024 respectively.

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2025/01/14
05:26 UTC

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DOLITTLE opened 5 years ago this week. Produced by Susan Downey & starring Robert Downey Jr, it grossed $251.5 million on $192.4 million budget, a box-office bomb for a reported loss of $50–100 million. It was nominated for 6 Golden Raspberry Awards, winning for Worst Remake, Rip-off or Sequel

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2025/01/14
05:04 UTC

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BAD BOYS FOR LIFE opened 5 years ago this weekend. The third installment in the Bad Boys franchise, it grossed $426.5 million on $90 million budget. It become the third-highest-grossing January release of all time and the highest-grossing film in the franchise.

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2025/01/14
05:00 UTC

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