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How to use these ecological terms correctly as they relate to plant tolerance?

As there are different types of plants adapted to different conditions, I have seen different scientific words used to describe their affinities. These are prefixes which I have seen used a lot and I know what they mean for the most part:

Sclero-

Xero-

Meso-

Cryo-

Thermo-

  1. To describe these vegetation types, I have seen the term "philous" attached at the end. I believe I may also have seen "philic" and "phytic" attached at the end also. Are all of these suffixes interchangeable, or are they used in different circumstances?

  2. What is the difference between sclerophyllous and xerophilous?

6 Comments
2024/12/03
22:38 UTC

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What are some common sources of bioavailable silicon?

Some research I have seen consider silicon to be a “quasi-essential” plant nutrient. It appears to strengthen cell walls, increase resistance to stress factors, and increase plant vigor. Rice plants in particular are good accumulators of silicon, having about 10% of their dry shoot weight being silicon.

In the studies I looked at, they only seem to use silicic acid which is a water soluble form of silicon. Silicic acid doesn’t seem to have a lot of natural sources, with most of the studies using silicic acid made through industrial chemistry. A lot of sources mention amorphous silicon, but I don’t see how plants can absorb what is essentially glass. Glass is just the atomically disordered version of SiO2, or Quartz.

So far I’m guessing diatomaceous earth might have some water soluble forms of silicon, but most sources only mention the amorphous silicon content in DE.

3 Comments
2024/12/03
17:14 UTC

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Why honey crisp apples went from "Marvel to Mediocre"

For anybody curious about the decline in quality of honeycrisp apples as their popularity exploded. The apple's unique growing conditions, thin skin and susceptibility to storage diseases along with mass production & supply chain issues led to the decrease of quality as growers chased profits over quality.

https://www.seriouseats.com/how-honeycrisp-apples-went-from-marvel-to-mediocre-8753117

21 Comments
2024/12/03
16:04 UTC

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Rubus tingzhouensis, a newly-defined species within the family Rosaceae from Fujian Province, China.

12 Comments
2024/12/03
09:05 UTC

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Tissue Culturists out there?

Hi all! I maintain genetics in vitro,work in micropropagation, and design experiments for media, sterilizing protocols, scaling production, and more. I’m looking to connect with others tissue culturists, talk research and learn how to culture other plants! PS- I currently only work with a certain flowering pharmaceutical plant (wink wink) due to the restrictions in my lab.

8 Comments
2024/12/02
18:07 UTC

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What's a great book or resource for someone who wants to learn more about different flowers? (Want to be able to ID them?)

Yes I'd love to grow a garden one day, but it's out of reach right now. I'd really just like to understand more about different flowers. I want to see flowers in people's gardens and know what they are, and understand about them. I just have a lot of affinity for plants and nature but I don't know much.

Does anyone have a favorite resource to learn from? Maybe a great book? What do you suggest? Thanks! 🤗

1 Comment
2024/12/02
04:25 UTC

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Anyone know what species this paper is referring to? Says it grows on limestone karst but I don’t know anything else.

2 Comments
2024/12/01
21:29 UTC

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career switch to botany/permaculture/soil biology late in life advice

Hey people!

I'm not sure if this is the right sub for my question. I'm 32 and i have a university degree in software engineering and have worked as a software developer for over 12 years. I live in egypt and I'm currently recovering from a medical issue that has prevented me from working full time for about a year and a half ,I've been doing some freelance gigs when i have the chance but I've grown sick of what i do and i think it is pointless other than to make money and the market isn't that great anymore due to AI.

I used to work for an agritech company that works in hydroponics for a while and this got me interested in agriculture and ecology. during my break time i've started becoming very interested in permaculture and soil regeneration, I've been learning a lot from youtube and the internet about permaculture and desert reforestation. Unfortunately i don't own any farm land and i live in an apartment so i have no land to try to apply what i'm learning but i have started experimenting with some food waste recycling techniques like different types of composting, bokashi and vermicomposting to try to building soil fertility and biology in potting soil atleast for my house plants. I'm also trying to learn more about traditional organic farming philosophies like KNF JADAM and the soil food web(i know that isn't scientific but i csn still gain some insight from a practical method that has been used for a while for farming even if i'll not follow it exactly) , i've also been learning about permaculture design from youtube channels like andrew millson and geoff lawton's channels but have no place to try to apply what i'm learning. I have a pretty big concrete patio and i'm currently trying to merge all of what i'm learning to try to make a small potted vegetable and fruit garden according to the principles and methods i've been learning(getting a very slow start).

i would love to switch careers and work in this but i'm not sure where to start. I'm aware of permaculture design courses but due to inflation where i live most of the courses i've checked are outrageously expensive when converted to EGP.

I'm open to suggestions on where to start!

Sorry for the very long post.

Thanks.

6 Comments
2024/12/01
11:49 UTC

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Fruit/Seeds of angiosperm resources?

Hello! I’m taking a low level botany class at the moment, and currently we are making our way through angiosperms, particularly fruits (and seeds). I am having a hard time organizing all the info in my head, and a lot of the necessary information is a little obscure for a regular google search.

Just wondering if anyone had any good resources that can help without going aggressively in depth, such as textbooks they like, bloggers or youtubers that have good information, or even your own work/research if it applies? It’s all pretty introductory at the moment, so classification, structure, things like that. Thank you!

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2024/12/01
07:56 UTC

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did i label this right?

https://preview.redd.it/56vfsgi0j54e1.png?width=1928&format=png&auto=webp&s=a489da2e0ff4de98995f9b0a718996266e4a25b3

I have to label this cross section of a poison ivy leaf for school and I'm not sure I labeled it correctly. the big thing i don’t know is if I labeled the xylem correctly. did i put number 6/the xylem in the right place, or is it the smaller holes with the pink outline. if not the xylem, then what are the big openings and the smaller ones with the pink? sorry to come here for homework help but i can't really find the exact answers i need online and wanted to see if anyone here could help at all.

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2024/12/01
02:54 UTC

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Is there a place to check which plants (at least genus or families) are mycorrhizal and which are not?

For example, I have contrasting sources that say Protea is non-mycorrhizal and others say they are. Is there a single, unified website to check this reliably?

16 Comments
2024/12/01
02:43 UTC

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Since Aloe Vera is sterile and doesn’t set seeds, Does that mean that every Aloe Vera Plant is an offset of another one and are genetically identical to each other?

17 Comments
2024/12/01
02:39 UTC

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How can I make the most of my career?

Hi, everyone. I spent the past year working really hard developing my network and figuring out what I want to explore. I spent the past year reading literature on plant physiology, ethnobotany, and nutrition and economic botany. I joined ASHS and have been having great sessions with my mentor and connected with an ethnobotanist who offered a position at a federal level.

I’m making good strides but how can I leverage this past just working in the US? After graduating it was rough finding something relevant or an opportunity to diversify my experience. Does anyone have advice on how they made a career from their passion for plants?

1 Comment
2024/12/01
00:06 UTC

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Agalonema nectar toxic to cats?

I brought home a flowering agalonema, that is covered in sticky nectar. My cat is not chewing on the leaves but, he did rub on the plant and get the nectar on his fur. I cleaned it off but, want to be sure he will be okay if I missed any.

12 Comments
2024/11/30
19:59 UTC

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Accessory leaflets on spring greens?

I was chopping up some spring greens and notices that every leaf had a little, kidney-shaped leaf by the stalk. Is this a mutation or a common brassica thing?

2 Comments
2024/11/29
21:31 UTC

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How Much Of Botany Is Plant Classification?

How much of Botany is actually classifying plants?

9 Comments
2024/11/29
16:32 UTC

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Is this a common occurrence naturally?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9237731/ Mutant cotton

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258350978 Red leaved cultivar cotton (Older Paper)

They are both about red foliated cotton but one is about a mutant and another is a cultivar and it seems they both have basically the same mutation? A 228 b.p duplication in a promoter section of a MYB gene with a G-Box located in the duplicated area.

My main confusion is with the number 228, it seems so specific. Is it common for the basically exact same mutation to happen twice.

0 Comments
2024/11/29
14:05 UTC

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Black spots on citrus what is it?

Can someone tell me if it's some kind of fungus or not please 🙏

9 Comments
2024/11/29
08:34 UTC

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Beginning My Plant Interests

I'm not sure if it falls to the Category of Plant Biology or Physiology, yet-- to my understanding, Physiology would be more helpful to the topic I'm trying to learn.

I understand that a Plant needs water & nutrients to grow...

Nutrients help it's functions & Water helps the nutrients reach the plants and aborb them.

However, I'm curious at the resilience of plant life..

Question #1 "If a Plant is an area with an abundance of water but low nutrients, what happens to the plant? Also the same question in reverse, what if there is more nutrients but very little water."

My Assumption: "The original amount of Nutrients & Water that the plant received before it began to sprout, will determine how far the roots go?" So, I'd be able to control how far the roots go if I control the water & nutrients?

If someone can recommend me a book or source to begin my Journey, I'd appreciate that. I know the Internet is at my fingertips.. but a book feels easier on my eyes and focus.

5 Comments
2024/11/28
19:34 UTC

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How do anthocyanins accumulate in plant vacuoles?

This is just a curiosity for me as I was reading about flower petal spots and got dragged into this topic. I'm seeing papers say the anthocyanins are synthesized at the cytosolic side of the ER and then get transported into the vacuole, but how is my question.

Is it through channels and if so what kind as most channels I know of are ion channels and I thought anthocyanins were too bulky to fit through.

I read somewhere else that some GST proteins helped by flavonoid (close enough I guess) binding and transporting but I thought their job was to neutralize toxins? Do they just bind to them and somehow go through the tonoplast?

3 Comments
2024/11/28
08:47 UTC

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Druidcraft with Duncan (Palms, peculiar plants)

Palm “Trees” are a thorn in the side of plant classification. Technically they are in an order called Arecales, which is not a grass. However some botanical definitions consider them grasses because they are monocots (they have vascular bundles throughout the stem that move water and other nutrients through the plant. There are many other differences but this is the most notable for our example) and typically trees are dicots (they have smaller areas that transmit nutrients along the edges of their stems. Again there are many more differences but this is relevant to our example.).

However, grasses belong to the family Poaceae (of the order Poales) which is separate from the Palm order (Arecales).

TLDR: different fields classify them differently, but saying Palms are grasses is like saying that ketchup and tomatoes are both fruits. Sure they have similarities but they are two separate things.

Also check out https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/EP473 for more in depth info, they were my main source for this.

10 Comments
2024/11/28
04:20 UTC

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Measure chlorophyll cheaply?

Does anyone know if there is a cheap way to measure the approx chlorophyll content of a leaf? Or a cheapish measuring device? Thanks!

(I don’t have any lab equipment)

8 Comments
2024/11/27
19:30 UTC

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Taxanomic authorities for cultivars

Hi all I have a quick question regarding authorities in relation to new cultivars. My example, i'm writing a page on Ficus caria 'Ice Crystal' a type of fig tree bred for its different leaf shape. Linneaus is the taxonomic authority for Ficus caria so would I still put L. after the name?

3 Comments
2024/11/27
16:57 UTC

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What is the name of the clade that includes both monocots and eudicots, but excludes magnoliid dicots?

I have seen phylogenetic trees of angiosperms before and I know that monocots and eudicots are more closely related to each other than either of them are related to magnoliid dicots, but I can't seem to find the name of this clade anywhere. Is it an unnamed clade? I tried asking ChatGPT, but ChatGPT gave me an inaccurate answer, saying "Mesangiospermae", which does include monocots and eudicots, but also includes magnoliid dicots, and only excludes the ANA Grade angiosperms.

5 Comments
2024/11/27
15:31 UTC

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Can someone summarize respiration for me? I still don’t get it😭

In the lesson we tackled the 4 parts of respiration

  1. Glycolysis

• Energy Investment stage •Energy pay-off stage 2. Pyruvate oxidation 3. Krebs cycle 4. oxidative phosphorylation

What really boggles my brain is the counting like 1, 6 diphosphate then 2 atp like hold on😭🙏🏽

1 Comment
2024/11/27
13:13 UTC

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