1. When coming up with Borax Combo formula,(Blue Bliss) how was the effect different with more 5mapb?
2. Does reducing stomach acid prior to taking Blue Bliss (tums for example), increase the effect of the Blue Bliss, or not affect it at all?
3. Does drinking a couple of low-alcohol drinks (Smirnoff Ice or wine cooler) before taking Blue Bliss, lessen or change the effects?

Thanks so much for your insight.

I'm hoping for full feeling on both occasions. Thanks! Also, does taking a Tums beforehand help with the effectiveness of the Blue Bliss?

I don’t have access to any psyches right now except for these Road Trip gummies, but I can’t have sugar at the moment. Is there a not too complicated way to extract the good stuff from them?

As science has nailed down the neurotoxic MDMA metabolites, and we know what their half life is, I'm curious if anyone can point me to research on the borax combo metabolites so I can understand more about the comparative neurotoxicity.

Right so a short report for science and humanity. The pellets are the Borax combo, I believe created as an attempt for a less neurotoxic MDMA. 5-MAPB 70mg / 2-FMA 20mg / 5-MeO-MiPT 2mg

We had a couple of drinks, then took half a pellet each. Come up is easy, I call it MDMA light, but the similarity is superficial.

Redosed a quarter about 90 minutes in.

When this came down we had a third of a NASA. Mind you my NASA rockets are very strong, I think they are actually 18mg. I took one the first time and it was too much for me.

It came up, very pleasant, pretty soft. Added another third an hour in and off we go. There was a small window where the warmth of the 5 MAPB counterbalanced the stimulation of the 2 CB. This was very short however and it became a full on 2CB trip.

Lasted at least 4 hours, which seems long to me. Lots of visuals, everything was warping and the air was crystal like. I had very clear colors. I found the stimulation a bit tiring mentally, I'm still getting used to it I guess. I even had CEV of fractals, which I didn't expect.

Headspace was quite clear, a bit confusing at times.

I like to do MDMA and a bit of coke from time to time, not that regularly and not together but one of the things that turns me off is that I work in a job that randomly tests for drugs.

I'm sure I know the answer but has anyone done a test after using blue bliss or anything similar and if so has it come back negative ?

I like the idea of a buzz that doesn't come with the spoof of waiting for my urine to be clear.

Thanks folks.

I'm trying to avoid using white grapefruit juice as a way to inhibit the CYP3A4 pathway for MDMA metabolism.

Could I use Goldenseal herb? Or is it bad that it inhibits CYP3A4 and CYP2D6?

Could you provide any alternate suggestions?

Also, how much grapefruit juice should one drink before/during/after the roll?

Thanks!

Maybe there are better places to ask this but as a long time redditor u/borax is the person I trust!

I am using dancesafe test strips. The instructions say 50mg powder (coke in this case) per 5ml water. I like to test the whole batch rather than just 50mg though.

So I am wondering, is there a volume of water at which a lateral flow assay (test strip) is not going to catch stuff? If I test 3g powder in 300ml of water, is that too much water volume to the point where the strip could be missing dissolved fentanyl?

I don't know if people actually use this subreddit but if you see this, thanks

Hello everyone ..and my dear Bórax. You've became from an absolutely strange to a close on-line distant person (oxymoron alert!!).

I've tried two times blue bliss. And it's been a great experience. I must say I'm not an expert on drugs and less in psychedelics classic or no classic.

Cons:

Too stimmy. Not sure if this have to so with 2Fma or with dose I've tried. 2 pills every time I've tried it. (1 pill/4 hours later/1 pill).

Not harm reduction principle... It's a mixture of drugs.

Difficult to test if you buy it. And difficult to make if you do it yourself.

Not MDMA experience. I don't say it from my own experience. Never tried MDMA. But people that did and tried blue bliss (bórax combo), said it's not the same.

Pros:

Very surfeable even for a noob like me...And probably I had too much. Maybe just one pill was enough.

Very great mindset or mental space.

Useful to deal with trauma.

It's legal...(But As it's coming a ban on some benzofurans in some countries maybe this isn't case and I'm behind the times)

Hey! Every time I see the use of 5-mapb with the borax combo. Why not with 6apb?

6apb alone is a great drug but lacks some energy imo. Maybe the 2fma will do the trick when combining this 2? Anybody have experience with this?

feel like am aboutoo Having bad trip like what should I do? There are closets in my room should i open them orno? Please I asked everywhere else but the post got taken down I hid all the knives in my apartment

I am a somewhat experienced MDMA scientist, researching about 120+50 re about once per month. I am 26F 170lbs.

Now I got blue bliss for the first time, hoping in a less toxic MDMA alternative. Not sure about the dosage though - would you recommend half as for the first time, or whole as I'm experienced with MDMA?

I'm not planning on redosing as I heard it's not recommended.

Note, with a higher dose of MDMA than mentioned above I experienced some pretty uncomfortable side effects (eye rolling, jaws and headache), not sure if I can expect those with the full blue bliss pelet as well.

Hey guys, I would like to know:

1. if the borax combo can be stored in the freezer
2. if Yes, how long can be stored there?

Hey, does anyone have a method for seperating isopropylbenzylamine and methamphetamine? I've seen this post on reddit but it has been deleted (https://www.reddit.com?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=) and I have a hard time trusting quora posts (the only stuff I can find from googling) for something like this.

Mind you I'm not a chemist and have basically no chemistry tools and not even a microwave - I hope there would still be a semi-simple way to seperate both :)

Lets say i had some pink stars and wanted to try a different ROA like intranasal, but obviously wouldnt want to snort the binding agent.Would it be possible to use a method some people use for opiates: crushing the pills finely with mortar and pettle, dissolving the powder in hot distilled water and passing it through a fine filter? Talcum for example flushes through the filter when dissolved, and leaves you with the stuff you want, depending on whats in the pill of course.

Hey there, with the ban in NL on the horizon I was thinking about buying a bunch of pink stars. Like 20 as a five year supply. My question is, should I worry about a decrease in potency over 5 years? What's the best way to store them for such a time period? TIA

hello, i am quite new to RC's in general and a friend of mine repeatedly suggested to me to try pink star. i have big respect for RC's, so here's a bit context and a couple questions:

im 31 y/o. i began taking MDMA just this spring and summer again after like a 10 year break of all substances. (except psychedelics, i started consuming shrooms 2 years ago)

now back in my youth from age 16-19 i've been on raves a lot and i haven't had much respect for neurotoxicity from substances. i would consume MDMA consecutively weekend after weekend. i remember having a tolerance but if there is any long-term damage from this that i got, then i just either cant see it or i got away with it.

now this spring i think in may i tried MDMA again and between every consumption i had between 2 weeks to a month break. im 185cm tall and weigh 70KG. i always dose very little (30-40mg) and would redose 1-2 times on the same evening.

last weekend was the last time i had mdma and there too, i dosed 30-40mg like 3-4 times on the same evening.

now my friend asked me to try pink star probably for like 5th time instead of MDMA for the upcoming weekend and i actually wanna do it, just for the sake of not leaving her hanging 😆

now i dont really have any concerns for long term neurotoxic damage, but since i dont know anything about RC's i just thought it wouldnt hurt to ask here if i can try a half pill without having to worry about acute danger like serotonine syndrome? i read somewhere here that 1 pill of borax combo is equivalent to 180mg MDMA.

i already feel a good effect just from 40mg. does that mean a quarter pill would suffice to notice it? i suggested to my friend that i would probably rather try a half pill at first and see how it goes.

also: is it possible to vape DMT (750mg in 1 ml base liquid) on 10 watts with it?

Might've speedread too much but it seems pretty straightforward.

Will it make a Big difference if i only use 5-mapb + 2-FMA instead of the original combo or do i Really need the 5-HT1 activity?

Planning to take it on a Techno Rave

I was wondering if it was possible for serotonins to start the night with mdma, and than instead of redosing mdma taking a blue bliss borax combo or pink star ans continue the night.. we could have roll and love of mdma and the sex part of the borax combo could be amazing… did anyone tried that combo ?..

I’ve seen several very similar write ups for the procedure to acetone wash MDMA. Only difference I find is some recommend cold acetone and others recommend hot acetone (heated on flameless source). Is there any particular advantage or difference with one or the other?

I’m planning on acetone washing my batch of MDMA. Is it worth it to continue after this and do an isopropanol wash? Or would that be overkill?

The Pink stars contain 2mg of 5-MeO-MiPT, which according to Psychonautwiki is below threshold dose.

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php?title=5-MeO-MiPT

I assume the original Borax formulation was similar, so what's the reasoning here?

How long does a Borax combo with the following dosages will last? Asking for research purposes ;)

5-MAPB 80mg / 2-FMA 20mg / 5-MeO-MiPT 2mg

In addition, feel free to comment anything regarding Borax if you have any personal experience. Thanks!

Hi, I‘m attending a 3 day festival in a few weeks and was planning on taking a pink star pill which contains the borax combo. I have experience with mdma but not borax. Normally I’d just take it on the last day, but one of my favourite artists is playing the second day and I would love to use the pill for that day. I heard the borax combo has a less harsh comedown and less of a hangover than molly, I got benzos so I will definitely be able to sleep, also vitamin C against the hangover and also plan to take cocaine and 2f-dck on the other days. Molly hangover normally doesn’t affect me as bad as some of my friends, still if I had mdma instead of borax I would decide against using it in this situation. You guys think it’s worth it or will I potentially just ruin my last day at the festival?

I saw MEAI and I read it's a serotonin relaser, like MDAI

Could I use it instead 5mapb?

In the Borax combo, can you replace 2-FMA with a dopamine reuptake inhibitor? How well would that work?

I don't seem to respond well to dopamine releasers, so I was wondering if something like 4F-MPH or IPPH could work in its place. The former being more stimulating, but the latter more selective for dopamine.

So i took 80mg 3-FEA 4 days ago and was thinking about taking it in like 13-14 days. So like 17-18 days apart.

I know 3-FEA has serotonin action as well as 5-MAPB which is in Blue bliss thats why i'm asking if it would be bad if i did.

Edit: Like will it damage serotonin receptors?

I know they are both very simular to eachother but i've seen they have slightly different dosages for empathogen and 2 different typtamines but would like to know which one is a more preffered option for most since i'm planning to get one of them two.

Pink star (5-MAPB 70mg, 2-FMA 20mg, 5-meo-mipt 2mg)

Blue bliss (5-MAPB 80mg, 2-FMA 20mg, 4-aco-met 4mg)

Hello, I am 67kg and an experienced user in mdma, should I take a full pill or half? Whats your reccomendation? Thanks