ATS is not a typical subreddit!

Source: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113402752841810552

Lyin’ Kamala is giving a News Conference now, saying that I want to end the Affordable Care Act. I never mentioned doing that, never even thought about such a thing.

And yet even a cursory review shows dozens of Trump times saying just that since at least 2015. In fact, in his Presidential Announcement Speech (the Golden Escalator speech)

So, just to sum up, I would do various things very quickly. I would repeal and replace the big lie, Obamacare.

He then repeated the promise at least 68 more times just between 2015 and 2017

Why now deny it?

Look at the title. Hopefully this gets approved today, because otherwise it will be a little late.

Any costume ideas? Are you giving away candy? If so, why types?

I'll even answer my own question here--my wife got all dressed up for work and she looks cute, but she looks cute in just about anything (or nothing, giggity!). We do not expect any trick or treaters, because we've been here for several years and never had any, so we're not really doing anything. Also, dealing with kids knocking while you have dogs is a bit of a pain in the butt.

I normally bring the trash out on Thursday evenings (our Trash day is Friday), but, by joint decision of the Chiefs of Staff of the household (in other words, my wife and I spoke about this), I'm not leaving a trash can out on Halloween. Seems to just be asking for trouble.

So, whatcha got going on?

Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.”

For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria.

Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection.

Reporting Highlights:

She Died After a Miscarriage: Doctors said it was “inevitable” that Josseli Barnica would miscarry. Yet they waited 40 hours for the fetal heartbeat to stop. She died of an infection three days later.

Two Texas Women Died: Barnica is one of at least two Texas women who died after doctors delayed treating miscarriages, ProPublica found.

Death Was “Preventable”: More than a dozen doctors who reviewed the case at ProPublica’s request said Barnica’s death was “preventable.” They called it “horrific,” “astounding” and “egregious.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage-texas-abortion-ban

What can pro life states like Texas do to protect the life of women in this situation to make sure hospitals don't turn them away because a life saving abortion is currently illlegal?

As a casual bystander, seeing the extent to which folks in Trump's orbit (including Trump himself) have been found guilty/liable by jury's seems pretty bad to me.

But, then I listen to TS and hear that it's all just "lawfare" and illegitimate.

I find this very difficult to reconcile.

Can you help me understand? I don't think I can cop answers like "he's only being charged/investigated because he's the republican nominee" etc, because that literally can be used to excuse anything.

Is there some other pointer that has you so sure of your conclusions that he's done nothing wrong?

Bonus - what do you think of Trump's long long long past of being embroiled in legal matters (I think I saw a state before he even ran for office that he has been involved in the most litigation of any individual in our history or something)

Thanks

Trump will be sentenced for 34 felony counts of falsifying business records on November 26. Afterwards, he’ll still have three remaining indictments. If he wins the election, would he have to spend months of his presidency in court? If he’s sentenced to prison time, do you think he would pardon himself, or would JD Vance become president under the 25th amendment?

Trump has stated that if he’s reelected, he will fire special counsel Jack Smith. Does this strike you as a conflict of interest, or a smart decision?

Elon said "We have to reduce spending to live within our means. And that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity" on a campaign call.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850266773796651174

A Twitter user FischerKing said the following and Elon tweeted agreeing:
"If Trump succeeds in forcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away at the government, firing people and reducing the deficit - there will be an initial severe overreaction in the economy - this economy propped up with debt (generating asset bubbles) and artificially suppressed wages (as a result of illegal immigration). Markets will tumble. But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we are on sounder footing, there will be a rapid recovery to a healthier, sustainable economy. History could be made in the coming two years." https://x.com/FischerKing64/status/1851012299689189731

What are your thoughts? Are you okay with the arguably drastic approach they plan to take?

Painting with a very broad brush, it seems to be that typically the left hangs a lot of its positions on a case from empathy. More rights for more people. "Think of the immigrants!" "Think of the LGBT!" "Think of the women!" "Think of the minorities!"

Traditionally, conservative positions seem more predicated on swallowing the bitter pill. "Facts don't care about your feelings." There are some outliers, such as the abortion debate ("Think of the babies!"), but overall it seems sterner. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps." "Look after yourself." "Stay out of our country." An emphasis on property and keeping what you earn.

One might characterize the left as a weeping bleeding heart pushover, and the right as a resolute stone wall with crossed arms.

Assuming you can get behind that in a broad sense (you're welcome to dispute it!), what do you think are the most empathy-driven arguments you can give for a conservative ideal you hold? Leaving logos aside, what subject brings a tear to your eye thinking of how it affects somebody else?

If you're willing, I'd prefer to knock "abortion" and "victims of criminals" out of the running, just because I'd like to hear more unique takes. But if you're particularly impassioned, go ahead!

I’m especially interested in how I’d do it by using fraudulent registrations as has been highlighted today by Trump in PA.

Step by step, walk me through how me and my cronies could commit enough fraud in a given state to swing the election..for sake of example let’s say coming up with 11,780 fraudulent votes?

The US lags behind many other countries with regard to parental leave. It is one of the few countries without federal paid leave, and only protects 6 weeks of unpaid leave for the mother. Many mothers aren’t even fully healed from labor by 6 weeks and it makes it difficult to reach the 6-month minimum recommended breast feeding time. In contrast, Estonia, for example, offers up to 86 weeks of protected leave with 20 weeks of paid leave of 100% of their salary. Here’s an article outlining some global leave policies: https://www.justworks.com/blog/countries-with-paid-maternity-leave#what-countries-offer-the-best-maternity-leave

With the Republican Party being the party of « family values, » the generally « pro-life » party and the party that raises concern our low birth rate I am surprised parental leave isn’t a bigger priority for the party. So I would like to hear your thoughts on what parental leave in the US should look like.

1. How much, if any, parental leave should be protected by the federal government? Why or why not?

2. If yes, How much leave should be paid and at what percentage of salary? Who should pay- the employer, the government, or both?

3. Should parental leave be available to both parents or just the birthing parent? If yes, should it be the same leave policy (same length and pay)?

4. Should parental leave be available to adoptive parents?

5. What is Trump’s position on parental leave?

6. Did you, or would you, personally, take the maximum offered leave?

https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”

There are no COVID measures in place so I don't count those. I genuinely want to understand where "Take America Back" comes from. Is this just a vague but urgent sense of "things aren't what they used to be?" Or are you responding to specific government policies?

Not talking about forcing people to vote, just making sure everyone eligible can vote if they want. Assume neither scenario is happening in large numbers.

I would also be interested to hear if other connectives thought the same about the interview?

While I strongly disagree with Trump’s policies, given how close the election is, I think he would win if he articulated himself the way he did on Joe Rogan more often. I have watched his rallies and speeches and he comes off far more aggressive and many times rambling off about really random and irrelevant topics. However, Trump came off far more articulate and coherent with Rogan. There were even a few personal topics I agreed with him on. It felt a lot more like a casual 1:1 chat. And, for what it’s worth, my theory is maybe Joe Rogan told him to cut the shit for the interview and just chat, the two of them, no ego.

From a conservative/Republican perspective, why doesn’t Trump take a calmer approach more often?

The partial government shutdown was the longest shutdown in US history and resulted from a failure of the Trump White House to reach an agreement with Congressional Democrats over a budget bill. Per Wikipedia:

On December 11, President Trump held a televised meeting with Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office and asked them to support an appropriation of $5.7 billion for funding of a border wall along the U.S. southern border with Mexico. They refused, resulting in an argument between Trump and both Congressional leaders. During the contentious discussion, Trump remarked, "I am proud to shut down the government for border security ... I will be the one to shut [the government] down. I'm not going to blame you for it ... I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down." Schumer replied, "We shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute." Ten days later, [on December 21] Trump blamed Democrats for the impending shutdown.

Three days [after the White House meeting with Schumer and Pelosi], Politico reported that Trump was willing to sign a bill with no funding for a border wall that delayed a government shutdown into 2019 and the new Congress. On December 18, following a meeting with Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that the government would not shut down on December 22 and that Trump was "flexible" over funding for a border wall.

On December 20, following increased criticism from conservative media, pundits, and political figures, Trump reversed his position and declared that he would not sign any funding bill that did not include border wall funding. The same day, the House passed a continuing resolution that included $5 billion for the wall and $8 billion in disaster aid. This bill failed in the Senate. Trump's changing position caused consternation among Senate Republicans.

A lot of back and forth happened in January 2019 between Trump and Pelosi. Then at the end of the month:

On January 25, Trump announced his support for a three-week funding measure that would reopen the government until February 15. The deal, which also moved forward with long-term Department of Homeland Security funding, did not include funds for a wall. As expected, the agreement provided federal employees with back pay. Both the Senate and House of Representatives passed the funding measure by voice vote, sending the resolution to the President's desk. Trump signed the bill the same day, ending the shutdown.

The shutdown disrupted government services, required federal employees to be furloughed, and CBO estimated that the shutdown cost the US economy over $11B, roughly twice the amount of funding Trump was seeking for a border wall. In the end, Trump did not get the funding he sought for a wall.

• Do you remember what you thought of Trump's performance at the time?

• Now that the incident has long since passed, do you think Trump did a good job negotiating for his wall project? Do you think he did an overall good job as president during this incident?

• How does this incident rank among the things Trump had to deal with as president? Was this a highlight, a low light, or somewhere in the middle?

• Do you think the economic dage done to the country was worth forcing the shutdown? Was border security enhanced by the exercise?

• Did this incident help or harm Trump's reputation for negotiating and deal-making? Do you think he "won" or "lost" the negotiations?

What is everyone’s opinion on the Madison Square Garden rally last night? From the clips I’ve seen from MSNBC/CNN/Fox News, it looks like a full capacity crowd.

But everyone is talking about Tony Hinchcliffe and his joke about Puerto Rico. As someone who is half Puerto Rican, I thought it was funny, but for a comedy show, not for a political rally where the opponent’s main argument is that you’re a racist. George Lopez, insulting Hispanic’s at a Harris/Walz rally, funny, but not for a political rally.

Do you think that comment will come back to hurt the Trump campaign in Pennsylvania and possibly now Florida?

https://apnews.com/article/vote-ballot-drop-box-democracy-fire-f66c52f774955106fb9e7c8172825cff

These events are obviously concerning to say the least. How do you think this could in any way effect the election?

I'm curious, of the many topics posted here, how often are Trump Supporters already aware of the topic posted, or if reading the post here is where you first learn about it?

I've noticed a number of posts along the lines of "You don't have to tell your husband how you voted. Vote your conscious and lie if needed." I find myself reacting very strongly to that.

There’s so much divisiveness in politics now. I just saw a person on this subreddit call the left the “looney left”, people on the left think the right is unhinged, you’ve got candidates name calling each other, etc. What can people on your side do to stop all of this and return US politics to a space of respect and cordiality?

Do you think he skipped the line and needs to be deported so he can come back the correct way?

https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

"Kamala Harris did NOTHING as 120,000 Armenian Christians were horrifically persecuted and forcibly displaced in Artsakh. Christians around the World will not be safe if Kamala Harris is President of the United States. When I am President, I will protect persecuted Christians, I will work to stop the violence and ethnic cleansing, and we will restore PEACE between Armenia and Azerbaijan."

Trump's post.

The bat signal is a spotlight on the sky with a bat logo, and it summons Batman in times of need. I'm thinking a silhouette of his hair, or McDonalds arches to be funny, but surely there's a better option?

I am an NP in a primary care office (also, an adoptive mom* 🤗). While I don’t bring up politics at work, patients often do. A woman this week expressed concern about viable, full-term pregnancies being terminated in this country. Do you, as a conservative, believe that people voting for Kamala Harris want this?

*My kid was born at 29 weeks, with drugs in his system. He is now a curious and energetic 11-year-old whose only focus is talking to girls. I believe that’s called “rizz.”

It's the weekend! Politics is still out there happening, but in this little corner of the sub we will leave it behind momentarily and talk about other aspects of our lives.

Bonus question for everyone! What are your favorite breakfast foods?

Talk about anything except politics, other subreddits, or r/AskTrumpSupporters. Rules 2 and 3 are suspended.

In a recent interview between Trump and Elon, Elon proposed Trump create a new “government efficiency commission” led by Elon Musk. Trump has since said he would create a government efficiency commission to audit the entire federal government.

Source: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-elon-musk-government-efficiency-commission-e831ed5dc2f6a56999e1a70bb0a4eaeb

Musk has been promised $13B across approximately 100 government contracts between his companies, primarily Tesla ($325K) and SpaceX ($15.4B).

In addition, “[Musk’s] companies have been targeted in at least 20 recent investigations or reviews, including over the safety of his Tesla cars and the environmental damage caused by his rockets.”

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/20/us/politics/elon-musk-federal-agencies-contracts.html#

Do you think Trump making Elon Musk head of a new “government efficiency commission” essentially giving the world’s richest man and a major government contractor, currently being investigated by multiple government agencies, the power to regulate the regulators who hold sway over his companies a conflict of interest?

I am hoping to get a better understanding. No human nor candidate is perfect. But I have 3 kids including a daughter. For those who have kids; what do you tell your kids about a candidate for president that has been civilly convicted and liable for sexual assault and defamation? And a candidate that has been recorded talking about grabbing women on Access Hollywood tapes? I am curious how that conversation goes when your kids say “I want to be president one day” and look to your guidance and the qualities that are required. Again. No candidate is perfect. I had the same discussion with my oldest about Bill Clinton.

Trump, a business tycoon, didn't use his influence in the real estate market to keep housing affordable for Middle-Class New Yorkers nor did he push to keep leases affordable for Ma and Pa businesses. In fact, NYC hasn't been affordable for decades. Do you still he's going to lower housing costs for Average Americans? Do you still think he's going to fight to keep leasing affordable for our Ma and Pa businesses? Let the Battle of the Bands begin!

Over the past 80+ years, wealthy people have been successful in reducing their effective income and capital,gains tax rate while simultaneously the middle income/class has been shrinking. As a member of the top 10% of income earners in the US, why should my taxes raise (Because i likely would not experience any hardship if my taxes were increased back to where it was in the 60’s)?

https://taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/effective-income-tax-rates-have-fallen-top-one-percent-world-war-ii-0

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katharinabuchholz/2023/04/21/how-americas-middle-class-is-shrinking-infographic/

My perception is that a key selling point for Trump amongst his supporters is that the economy was doing way better in 2019 than it is today. I'm curious what stats back up that claim.

Trump was on Joe Rogan today, what is your favorite clips or quotes?

John Boldon is an idiot.

Biden will be fine, they only target consequential presidents.

and in serious policy related things, I found him talking about the EPA and how they obstruct natural resource development both angering and educational.