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The Mythology of Work by CrimethInc.
The Abolition of Work by Bob Black
On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber
In Praise of Idleness by Bertrand Russell
Laziness Does Not Exist by Devon Price
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I had a conversation with a friend of mine and he told me he was thinking of cashing out $2 million dollars from a investment that he has and he is planning to buy a house in the south of Spain. Yeah it’s crazy. First of all I don’t know how much a house costs there and second the idea of cashing out of an investment at this level and buying something 90% of Americans can never do.
Then I watched videos on YouTube and Tik Tok of ordinary people struggling to buy homes, pay rent and buy groceries and so on and I am absolutely horrified by where we are going as a society.
Income inequality at this level is going to damage this country for generations to come.
For folks scared we will become a dystopia it’s already here. We are a dystopian hellscape now. If you must live with 6 people to afford an average apartment or house that’s crazy.
There are folks on YouTube and TikTok and X waiting for the collapse of American society. You don’t have to wait. We are here and the collapse is here. If you can’t live on one paycheck and every member of your family must work to just live that’s a collapse. If you have people racking up more money in one lifetime that would take someone else ten lifetimes. That’s a collapse. That’s not America functioning normally.
And what steps do you plan to take to achieve it?
I had an interesting conversation with a guy a lot smarter than me. We where discussing how things in the work world have gotten so bad and I believe he made a really good point.
We have maxed out with our technology and are stuck. Price for commodities like oil,wheat,metal etc.are as cheap as they can possibly get them we are at a point in history where there is absolutely not way to extort more profits from anything but labor.
With big companies having to be in a constant growth mode the businesses go at labor cutting staff, benefits, pay, etc. its the only thing left on the table at this point to extract profits.
How much is to much? When companies destroy the customer economy what happens then?
Interesting thought non the less, what are your thoughts.
i work as a FT exempt employee, M-F in-office for a clothing company in southern california and last year in january 2022 HR sent out an email stating that "all staff are required to use the time clock to punch in and out of shifts due to insurance policies of keeping track of employees in the office"
i started with this company in 2021 and this policy did not exist. i know technically it isn't illegal for employers to ask salaried employees to clock in/out but the 'insurance policy' part is what seemed weird to me. is that a legit reason?
also, another interesting fact is that we have no employee handbook. and yes, i am trying to find a new job.
About a month ago, my boss who has got in trouble for allowing applicants to get in with out verifying information, cussing at residents, numerous resident complaints, bad reviews, and among other things that corporate didn’t know about put a PIP on my desk, walked away and didn’t say anything to me or speak to me face to face about issues previously that I could of fixed.
He framed me for not doing Items that was not expected of me or items he volunteered for so I would complete other task instead and just assumed with out communication this would be how we divided work, well I was wrong and he wanted me as his scapegoat as he knew his job was(?) not as bad at the time in jeopardy. oh boy.(he opened a can of worms since there so much i’ve been covering up for most of it for 1.5 years.)
I walked in this office and said:
“I just received this on my desk, about items that we never talked about”- Me
“oh yeah, well it is what it is?” - Boss
“so this is the way you want to go? throw me under the bus? well I hope you know for a a year and a half I have been covering your mistakes so I am dragging you down with me” - Me
Boss panics and calls his boss and runs outside
I proceeded to email his boss, his boss’s boss, with the PIP explaining how there was lies on it and how task that I wasnt aware of werent relayed to me and it isn’t fair how I am the only one with a PIP. after the email, corporate came knocking, auditing everything they could, they came in wrote him up, asked myself and coworkers advice and I told corporate about the stuff he stole, how he destroyed items on the property, the lies, the fraud he let in. Everything.
Fast forward to today, he was fired and they offered me his job.
The severity of how I’ve been treated at work is questionable. Espically as a protected class.
Nonetheless what do I need to provide them to start the trail of tort and harassment?
I found old notebooks from work class of me quoting the leadership and principal engineers.
It was exactly my job until it took the turn of these mangers manipulate the systems and refuse to actually fix anything for Members.
What do I need to do to go to the CEO and supply my notes and directly tell the facts of what management and engineering (training too) is doing on a daily basis in an ethics forum that is wasting millions in production on salaries for PEs that talk about pills all day.
(P.S. I never received an apology from the director that mocked me and bullied me on a Zoom call for something I had no involvement in) <— Scape ghoating for no reason is common there except.. when they have to pick up their children.
For Kevin’s future knowledge to pass down. I’ll look his kids in the eyes with his wife and with Kumar’s family that these two men are the reasons why I tried to take my life because they didn’t love you children they loved killing others.
Context: I’m 29(f) and work in the ass end of management. Like I’m doing all of the grunt work. Also have a good deal of mental health issues (major depression, adhd, anxiety) and some physical things that I won’t mention.
The longest I’ve been able to keep a job is 2.5 years. I’ve bounced around since the beginning of the pandemic; a year here, a year there, year and a half somewhere else.
Currently, I work 60+ hours a week, my house is in shambles (don’t have time to clean/no motivation), the only free time I get is on days off, sleep is erratic (I live alone and run errands during the week to free up the days off; sometimes it’s just nice to do stuff I like), and I feel like I’m drowning.
Also, I got written up at work and am known for being “intimidating/too blunt.” This is a recurring theme for me, I get that no matter where I go or what I do. Always try to stay out of trouble, but get caught in it or create it. I know I can’t keep running because places won’t hire anyone in management roles that have only been somewhere for a year (in my experience at least, it takes forever). Would like to get promoted at some point, but can’t take all of this shit.
If someone has any advice, please let me hear it. Even if it’s criticism, idgaf. I hate management, but unfortunately am decent at it. Would rather be something like an admin, but they don’t pay as much and I’m trying to pay off student loans.
I just saw this incredible video on HR schemes - do any of you fine redditers have similar channels like this? Also: I'm totally new to employment laws / hacks / well, everything - does anyone know if these videos would apply to me? I'm in New Jersey, and he says he's a California attorney - do these laws and practices apply to my state? If this is too much to answer alone - please point me in the direction where I can research further as I'm kind of starting from scratch: I want to be fully prepared for jobs going forward so I can avoid bullshit pitfalls like this. TIA :)
I remember seeing lots of bad shit about Amazon but I don’t remember what it is. My friend is applying to them and it came up and I wanted to see what it was that makes them hated to be worked for
I think I have reached the threshold of money vs. stress.
My boss decided to take an extended PTO leave right before my wedding. The team is small. Though I've been encouraged by everyone else for the last 6 months (not boss) that my contributions are on point, today when my Ubuntu instance threw an error I cannot figure out how to fix and all of my work for so long will be lost I just shut the computer and walked away. I've been upset for hours. If I don't, it would cause so much more stress for the people I leave behind.
I cannot believe someone would do this. I don't get how anyone would believe I would want this. Which makes me believe he wants me to quit even more. I haven't felt so abused since I was backhanded by my father at the card table over winning a hand.
We had an event coming up for work. Every store in our region was going to meet up for a mandatory "learning" event, for which we would be paid for four hours. The catch? It would take up the majority of our weekend to be there.
Getting to the event would be a two hour ferry ride, plus at least an hour by bus, each way. So that would be six hours of travel time. This would mean that we'd have to stay in hotels for the night, get up early, and attend the event, after which we would head home, though the travel, accommodations, and food would be covered. Factoring in wait times at the ferry, this would add up to over 24 hours that I could be using to see my family, for which I would be paid for four hours. Oh, and they wanted us to reduce a shift on Friday so as not to accumulate overtime.
It turns out, though, that travel to a remote work site is supposed to be considered as paid time under provincial law. This would mean that everyone who would have to attend would need to be paid out for six hours just to get there. There are at least seven offices that would have to have all of their employees, sans managers, paid just to be driven to the event.
I brought this to my managers attention and just wanted to confirm that this event was considered mandatory. She sent it to our regional manager to be looked over.
Today comes, and the event is no longer considered "mandatory." I'm happy to have a full weekend back.
TL;DR I pointed out to my manager that the law required us to be paid for travel and got an event that was flagged as "mandatory" changed to "optional" and re-gained my weekend. I feel good.
I recently turned 21 and I've never had a job, never even had an interview. I entered alternative schooling at 12/13 since that's when my mental health tanked. I'm diagnosed with depression and general and social anxiety (people close to me suspect a couple other disorders aswell). Despite my less-intensive education I completed the core GCSEs without issue (UK exams). I then lasted about a month in college before I dropped out from it being too much. I've not had a job, an interview or work experience and the older I get the more it weighs on me. The work based society and culture is only helping worsen my depression and anxiety, I feel so worthless that I'm not providing anything or even pretending to provide anything. I spend most of my time playing video games and taking trivia quizzes, I've briefly looked into online classes and such but I struggle to commit for longer than a week. I just feel so ashamed that I'm not employed, even doing some simple or "unskilled" and yet I can't change it and I don't know if I'll ever be able to change it. I don't know what I'm hoping for by posting this, I just feel so overwhelmed and my family wouldn't understand. (Please don't use that Reddit reach out thing, I'm safe) thanks for reading and please let me know your thoughts on my situation.
Seriously, why? And when will we do something about it? My husband and I were making 3x more before I lost my job than we were 10 years ago and STILL living paycheck to paycheck. And when I interview for positions, the pay offer is lower than what I was offered at entry level. It's laughable. I can literally make more money driving for doordash and it's still not enough.
These companies are insane! You can't live off of this, yet they want you to run their property, FFS!
So our team was told about adding onto our team to do the job I was essentially hired for 2+ years ago. My responsibilities have grown since then but in my 2+ years there I have only gotten a $1/hr raise. Looking at the online posting for this would be additional team member, they are offering a FULL 20K more than what I am making now. I knew I was under paid, but this is just, I don't know what to say. Infuriated is non descriptive at this point. I have a meeting to talk to my boss about my job responsibilities, hopefully I can talk this into a big raise to even me up with the rest if my team for doing similar work.
Got let go/fired today, it was kind of unclear. Either way, I got told that I wasn't a good fit for company culture today.
"Normally we do this at 90 days, but as you've seen, things have been kind of hectic, so it's a little delayed."
I thought I was in the clear. I brought doughnuts on Fridays, I'd bring in candy for people whenever I went to the candy store, I tried to join in conversations. Nope.
I don't fit the culture.
Sure was nice having health insurance long enough to get one more fill of anti-anxiety meds. Back to rationing.
So yall don't have bills? Yall have hundreds of thousands saved up? Yall can just go without employment at a moments notice?
Good for you. Most of us can't.
I’ve spent the last six weeks on paternity leave and supposed to return to work on Thursday. While I do plan to return to work, I’m will not be going back to that office. Prior to my leave, I voiced my disagreement with RTO and made several attempts to remain remote. These failed but I played by the rules during that time.
The thought of going back to my toxic office fills me with so much dread and anxiety. My mental health is worth more to me than my company’s stance of “collaboration.” I realize I will likely be fired for this, but it’s time for me to take control of my life back. Hopefully my company will back down. I’ll update here if anyone is interested
I work remotely as a contractor and I like my job, but I have been noticing my boss keeps giving me work to do at 2:40pm when my shift ends at 3pm… these reports are expected to be sent out the same day and he keeps sending them late or the email doesn’t have the attachment. He knows when my shift ends and I don’t understand why he keeps trying to make me work past my shift. I’m afraid of either being taken advantage of or risk losing my job for not making him happy… my Dad says that because of my pay and working remote, do what makes him happy to keep the job, but I don’t want my boss to think this is ok… we agreed on the time I am working… but if he breaks this agreement, I should just quit? I don’t want to quit this job… would I have any legal protections in the USA; to not be fired for working past agreed hours as a contractor?
We are currently in a period of media production and consumptiom with an ascendent anti-capitalist message. From Squid Game to The Barbie Movie, Mark Fisher to David Graeber, Zero Books and Breadtube - there is a thriving media production apparatus and an audience hungry for content which is willing to address the failures of neo-liberalism and the difficulty of getting by under late-stage-capitalism.
But this isn't the first time, nor is it likely to be the last, that anti-capitalist Representation has been ascendent in the media - from the emergent counter culture of the 60s, to Punk in the 70s and Culture Jamming of the early 90s, these sentiments operate in undulating waves which are always, **always recuperated by Capital.
But, how exactly does this recuperation happen? How is it that staunch anti-capitalist messaging can nonetheless reify the hegemony of corporate interests and worker abjection?
In the following video, I examine the Sanrio produced *Aggretsuko net animation as a case study.
Give it a watch.
When I was in my 20s I worked in a medical setting. One day I pulled a chart for for a medical screening, recognized the name, and told my supervisor I couldn't screen them because I knew them outside of work, and that was against the rules. They said we were too busy to follow that and told me to call them in any way. I told them there was a personal conflict and I could not do it. They called them in for me and told me to do my job.
I did the medical screening, then I went to the bathroom and stayed there for an hour. When they came to find me I told them I had to leave, and left without letting them say anything. I went directly to my psychiatrist's office and told them what happened, and explained to him that it was my cousin who sexually assaulted me when I was 3.
I basically started having a mental breakdown at that point which led to being admitted to the hospital. Once I was released, my doctor filed for short-term, then long-term disability with my employer for me. He also started the process of a Social Security Disability claim. within 5 months, it was approved.
I was 24 and that was 13 years ago. In 2017 I started working part-time while collecting disability. That lasted for two years. I had a string of jobs that were decent jobs, but I never stayed long. I haven't worked at all since 2021.
Sometimes I feel like a piece of shit because I don't work. I feel like I am a worthless member of society and I contribute nothing. My on-again, off-again boyfriend (attorney, do not live together) will make comments about me needing to work, being low functioning, or that all my problems could e solved if I stopped wallowing in self-pity and got a job.
I live a very poor life. But I feel almost blessed to have the disability and not be chained to a desk or a job. I do realize I have no future, no retirement, basically no job skills. Part of me feels like my boyfriend, my brother, and other people who make comments about me being on disability are mad that they have to work and I don't.
Reading some of these anti-work posts makes me feel better, so thank you.