Whites (especially middle aged and older man) also from other countries used to say things like this: "even though I don't support them you can't deny that the altright has a kind of swagg.

Well, it turns out they just loved that a white man, doing and saying all this repulsive shit, would never the less be taken serious and considered a threat. That made them feel as if they are still running the world.

It's about time that shit ends. Whiteness is loosing its centrality with the fall of Trump.

So that title is accurate, like I don’t know how else to say it. My brother (28) and his ex had a bad falling out a couple years ago and since then he’s just slowly morphed into the most intolerant person. This is what he does though, he gets hurt, he doesn’t resolve his problems and face his emotions, and he gets angry. And since she was pansexual, since then it’s been “fuck the lgbtq+” and “trans people are disgusting” and it’s hard to watch. He doesn’t have to like them, but I’d like if he had a little tolerance. I mean he’s just as bad as the people he hates now, getting triggered over unconfirmed one-off situations where someone in the group he’s against did something sketchy or socially weird. He takes one bad instance and holds onto it for months to use as a reason for why he hates gays and trans people. And if I have to hear one more time about the “drag story time” incident I’m gonna lose it because I have no earthly idea what he’s even talking about and he’s been holding onto that one for about a year. I just don’t know why he’s doing this, I mean if he has a kid who ends up gay or trans it’s gonna be terrible and he’s gonna do what our parents did to me when I came out as bisexual, he’s gonna make that kid feel terrible just for existing. But there’s no reasoning with him about that stuff. There’s no telling him that his worldview and perspective aren’t the only valid reason for being the way he is. There’s no telling him that people lead lives that don’t fit into that perspective either. He’s become such a cliché, another straight, white dude who thinks his rights are being encroached upon because other people want to be respected and treated with dignity, instead of treated like a lower life form. I feel like I don’t even know who he is sometimes, when he talks about his political views and that kind of thing he literally becomes a different person in my eyes. But there’s no changing his mind so I just have to watch it happen and pretend like it doesn’t bother me as much as it does.

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I keep getting these right-wing “prepper” ads on random Youtube videos, and they’re everywhere. Ads like those such as “4Patriots” and “USCCA (the Concealed Carry Association)” talking about how “self defense is needed to take care of your loved ones” and preparation “in case of an impending disaster” and potential civil war and armed conflict. It’s really quite eerie and I think we need articles about it.

Not surprising really, we've had some trolls here and there but the last few hours I've had to nearly triple the size of the list of banned users.

Just want to let every one know I'm staying as on top of the situation as I can at the moment. Please don't hesitate to report. The mod team is taking a hardline approach as promised. This will remain a safe space for people to discuss all facets of altright brainwashing including tactics they use, stories of how you got out, sharing hope you've seen your friends and family brainwashed and anything else.

To any of the brigadiers out there we are reading every reported comment prior to banning and I have been reporting many of the more violent accounts and the ones I suspect of being alt accounts to circumvent banning directly to the site admins. You will be permanently banned and blocked from modmail on the first offense period. We do not have a warning system, we do not have a unban system, that's never going to happen. You will not be engaged here, you likely won't even be up long enough to trigger someone. Save your time, save your breath, go somewhere else with your hate.

To everyone else I appreciate you not feeding the trolls and reporting them immediately. I will temporarily shut down the sub if I have to to clean the bugs out but I'd rather not.

After posting about getting out I got a weird message from u/ValuableJackfruit telling me to get back in the alt-right, be scarred if black people and that they are genetically inferior and can’t resist raping women and being criminal in general. I literally want to throw up. When I believing in right wing bullshit i thought I went deep... that guy went DEEP.

Please ban him from the sub. He also mentioned the sub in some alt right discussion board so be ready for trolls to flock in.

What’s a shame.

My dad has been a registered Republican his whole life. He says he hates Trump (and I honestly believe him) and he said he wants to switch his party to Independent (I think most of us know that "centrist" types are typically still right leaning but just hate associating with Repubs).

His beliefs are such an odd frustrating one. He'll say things like, "I'm sorry but only women should get a say on abortion" but then vote for the party that's very anti-abortion? My mom is a Mexican woman (born in the US) and he'll say things that are very anti-immigration.

As far as the relationship dynamic goes between my parents, he's not a typical woman-hating, woman-abuser type person. He's not the stereotype is what I'm trying to get at. I'm a woman btw, and he hasn't raised me in a way that made me feel like women are less than. I'll even stray quite dramatically away from social norms and he doesn't give me crap for it.

He's not a conservative person in lifestyle as far as his marriage and parenting style goes. Yet he votes Repub and uses a lot of their talking points.

I don't get it. It's like he's in this right leaning/liberal lifestyle purgatory.

Some of the talking points he'll use is stuff like "well you shouldn't come over here illegally", "millennials are lazy and that's why they're doing so bad", stuff that's anti-universal healthcare, etc. He basically says all the cliche shit the Repubs say.

My dad can see with his own two eyes that his own daughter makes more than minimum wage and still can't afford her own place yet he says millennials are just lazy? His wife is Mexican and has grandparents that migrated here but he'll say some pretty fucked up anti-immigration shit. My mom got cancer and we're drowning in medical debt but he'll only support the ring wings idea of healthcare. He agrees that women should have their own choice when it comes to abortion but he votes Repub.

W. T. F.

I'm so frustrated over it. And no talking to him hasn't helped.

So I wanted to share my personal story about a friend, who was sympathizing with not exactly a far or alt right position. Still it was an interesting development which might be relevant for some people here, as it can help (as one of many stories) to understand this kind of propaganda and maybe eventually lead to a functional toolset for fighting it.

In Germany a few years ago, when occupy Wallstreet started to get more media coverage, many (younger) people started liking it and especially also they liked anonymous and its rebellious actions. There was a Facebook site which gained some traction over time, but which was eventually was captured by some guy named Mario Rönsch. He kicked most admins out of the site administration and the site got more and more into conspiracy theories.

As the site was always affiliated with anticapitalist positions and so the transition from a (capitalist-)critical sub to a much more dogmatic sub was quite smooth and most of the readers did not notice at first. The site still attracted a lot of progressive and also more reactionary people who were alltogether quite critically concerning globalisation and in particular the US, which was often depicted as a Imperialist War Machine. At this time, the community grew from about a few hundred thousand to 4 million, which is quite big for an only German speaking one.

At the same time, the community was deeply affiliated to the so called "Montags Mahnwachen" which declared themselves a peace movement. In tradition of the civil movement of the DDR who protested every Monday against the socialist regime they held a demonstration every Monday in Berlin, at which they for example also cooperated with Jürgen Elsässer. This guy had and still has deep connections to the german far-right Party AfD, as he is publisher for a far right magazine which actively endorses this party.

At this time, a friend began actively sharing a lot of posts from these Facebook pages, which were like a really weird ecosystem for every kind of conspiracy, although from time to time they really still had some content that was somewhat interesting. But the described community isolated itself more and more from other parts of the mainstream society and inevitably this filter bubble led to the people radicalizing themselves without even noticing.

The posts were now not only against capitalism anymore, a lot of them were just straight up antisemitism and overall very dogmatic, the mods of the page were extensively censoring and banning people who criticized the content. My friend kept sharing much too much of these posts which eventually led to me confronting him about it. Topics my friend was sharing covered a range from Jewish NWO to 9/11 and Chemtrails.

As it wasn't exactly transparent or obvious who managed the (previously captured) anonymous page back then, my friend would not believe me about the organizers having contact to a lot of reactionary organizations. I took every possibility to discuss these topics with him as far as I could.

From these discussions I got quite a lot of insights and as this posts gets longer and longer I will try to summarize the key points:

1. Make yourselves comfortable. I always tried to make sure he was comfortable with discussing the topic. This worked supringsly well, as we are a group of friends who would always have very heated discussions about politics and stuff and so we already had a shared fundament on which we could base our argumentation. Still it is noteworthy to keep this in mind, other people may have different strategies for this kind of social conflict and we were both very used to each other and this kind of discussion.

2. Listen to your mate. This should be obvious as it is a really basic concept of human interaction, as soon as the other one notices that you are just focusing on your own, your words will Never reach him. Nevertheless, in political discussions we tend to think that the whole discussion is technical one, which is solvable by pure logic and good argumentation. But it is not. First of all, it is a social, a human thing. In every discussion, all participants will have different premises and viewpoints and so the discussion will never be pury logically but rather a discussion of what people feel regarding certain topics. Your job in such discussions is to understand the underlying desires, concepts, etc. and accept them as they are part of how your opposite interprets the world. On this I could always build good argumentation upon which were hopefully understandable from my friends point of view.

3. Try to dismantle the vocabulary. Always in politics, you have keywords which are meant to simplify complex situations and which often imply a certain doctrine of action. Often these are commonly shared between people who are close to each other, but especially such dogmatic filter bubbles make it easy to recontextualize single words and phrases into some idiology from the box. If I encountered these fighting words the first few times it would often shutdown the complete discussion as I wouldn't know what they mean and also kinda felt a little bit dumb. The only way to solve this for me was to just ask for every word I wouldn't know and my friend had to explain it to me exactly. This was not as easy as just throwing an empty word into the room and often if my friend tried to embed it in the larger context, he himself found that the meaning of the word as he understood it was not applicable to the topic we were discussing.

4. Take the discussing partner seriously. OK, this kinda relates to number 2 but it's just so important. When my friend came with theories about Chemtrails, I at first wouldn't know what to say as this wasn't something I had encountered before. It is important to note, that in human history there have been a lot of actual conspiracies, probably even the idea of something the scale of the Panama papers would have appeared ridiculously a few months before they published that. So I would discuss with him these Chemtrails Theories and looked up the extremes of this theory, which is for example the idea of the NWO using poison to kill all the german population. Turns out my friend could not imagine something this scale either, but he were genuinely convinced some airlines would use some kind of dangerous but energy efficient kerosine which was not approved by the government. I mean, this COULD actually be true, although I still don't believe it, at least for Germany. By not taking his ideas seriously in this case, we would have lost a lot of common ground which is essential to have in such discussions.

5. Be patient. Maybe the most important point and strongly related to the other points as well. But in such discussions, you can only move forward slowly and you both will need time between discussions to process the answers and your own inner attitudes to the topic. To recalibrate if one can say so. And this will need a huge effort of both sides. But for me, eventually it all turned out pretty good. Just take your time and agree that you won't ever be 100% at the same political point, which is not a failure but it's just how we humans are I guess.

My friend eventually stopped sharing this pure cringe articles, as when the European refugee crisis began the Facebook page took a very sharp turn to the right and it became obvious to most progressive leaning people that this wasn't an adequate behavior anymore and the whole community split up, with Elsässer on one side (as previously mentioned strongly connected to the AfD) and people like Ken Jebsen on the other side (who is still advocate for a lot of conspiracy theories but is not in favor of any form of discrimination etc. AFAIK).

Mario Rönsch, the administrator of the page also did some business with selling illegal weapons for which he would be searched by the police a while after. He fled to Hungary and was eventually arrested there and then extradited. He is now where he (at least in my opinion) deserves to be.

I don't really know if someone is interested in this story/analysis and if you have read it until here, thanks a lot, I would be glad about any feedback. I can also share sources if anyone will read up about this development or the 'movement' in general. Also I will maybe try and give some example for the points I provided later.

I also cannot tell if these steps, etc. will help anyone but I am pretty sure that if we want prevent far right brainwashing, we have to analyze the process by which people are drawn into this spectrum, how these mechanisms work and so on. Therefore we should emphasize posting these kinds of stories and abstract them to a point where we can give tips and help to others in similar situations.

Thx :)

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Seriously, you guys are awesome! We've seen such an outpouring of support from so many people here, all of us experiencing the same issue that is dividing not just our country but our family and friends. A huge thank you to everyone who has shared your stories.

Seriously, thank you to everyone who is participating and a huge thank you to the lurkers as well. Like any good support group sharing is certainly encouraged but not mandatory by any means.

I have seen some trolls pop in here and there. Please remember not to feed the trolls, downvote, report, and move on. In an effort to keep this a safe and open space for everyone to share the mod team has been taking a hardline approach to modding this subreddit and banning people on the first offense in an effort to keep the subreddit clean.

In three days this sub has already grown so far beyond what it started as. I would love to hear some thoughts from the users here. Is there anything you would change? Anything we should add? etc.

My dad has always been kind of a reactionary. The first political thing I remember seeing him do was campaigning (of his own volition) for George W. Bush. I remember this because I was 6 years old doing this with him along with my brother and sister that were also dragged along. They didn't want to be there. I was too young to know. One of the things that became a regular occurrence was to see him get home from work, kick off his shoes, and yell at the TV when Fox News said something he liked. He liked Glenn Beck, bought Ann Coulter's book "Treason", etc. Once I turned about 19, I could tell that he had shitty conservative takes on things, but I wasn't prepared for him to share a Stefan Molyneux video on his Facebook. My thought is that he began watching self-help videos on YouTube after his divorce from my mom as well as general right-wing stuff and Molyneux became the synthesis of that. When he posted the video on Facebook, I commented that Molyneux is a white supremacist and shouldn't be taken seriously. I thought that maybe he didn't know fully what Molyneux says and I expected a charitable answer to what I said... but instead he flipped his shit. He called me a f*ggot, said that I was fucking ignorant, and other really shitty untrue things about me. We had met for family dinner literally 2 weeks beforehand and had a great time... what happened to my dad? In the six months since, I have tried to piece together what has happened to my dad and what my dad's true view point is. This is ultimately tough because he shared a Red Ice video but doesn't believe in white genocide and bashes the Christian church but yet keeps tying everything back into Trump. He's become a man of contradictions. So... I think my dad is just stupid and he believes that he is a prophet... like Q, but spiritual. He's a full-on stupid, traditional reactionary that has heard some YouTube Christian prophets and believes everything they say. He shares videos about the New World Order and how Trump is fighting it, videos "owning the libs", videos from whatever prophet he finds that week, and the occasional video from some major alt-right figure. He refuses to even take the beginning of criticism because he thinks I've become a full-on leftist (I have, but that's beside the point).

I don't even know what I plan to get at by typing this. It just feels good to get it out. My dad is not exactly part of the alt-right and hasn't fallen for all of their tactics, but he's a fucking idiot that is assisting their message and could quickly and easily become fully involved in it. Or maybe he is part of the alt-right and he's just lying. I don't know.

Have a good day, y'all.

I've been looking for a thread about this kind of thing. My family is conservative, but this isn't about them. It's about me diving head first into the alt-right.

It all started with a boy. I (F 15) met him (15) when I went to my orientation for high school, I just started. He was fun, not a creep (or so I thought), and he was attractive to me at the time. I just started a relationship with a boy who was very Christian, and after 10 months, I found myself not in love with him, and we moved on. The whole time, the boy I met was trying to get me to see that he was better than the one I was dating, and after I dumped the first guy, I moved into a relationship with the new guy immediately.

I was infatuated. Everything he said was so smart and funny, and I couldn't keep myself away from him at all. He started talking about what he wanted in life, and at the time, it was pretty lowkey stuff. He wanted to be a police officer, have a wife and family, 9-5, picket fence, the whole 9 yards. I thought it was dreamy how he wanted a traditional life.

For the first month when we were together, we'd occasionally talk politics. At the time, I was pretty independent. I shared some views with conservatives at the time, and some with democrats. We tended to agree to disagree, and moved on to playing video games. It was pretty relaxed for a while.

By the second month, he started showing me the people he watched. He absolutely LOVED Pewdiepie, so I started watching it. He LOVED cringe compilation memes, so I watched those so I could be as cool as he was. I tried watching and doing everything he did, because he praised me for it. I felt pretty special, and I was happy he saw that in me. He started to compliment my looks, my blond hair, blue eyes, ivory skin. I didn't think much of it. I even started to cover my freckles up because he didn't like them.

Soon, I came out to him as bisexual. He didn't say anything at first, but then he looked at me with a disappointed look so cold, I started to choke up. He put his arms around me and said that I could fix that. I didn't want to tell him that I knew since I was 12, but I did anyway. He told me that he didn't date SJWs and that I had to give up being a special snowflake to date him. I didn't realize how dependent I was on him. I ended up deleting a lot of social media that was connected with my bisexuality.

After that, it seemed that politics was brought up more. We watched skeptic YouTube, Ben Shapiro, and more "in-depth" evaluations of history, and the "tRUtH bEInG rEVEaLeD" about the Nazis. I started to self-depricate a lot, which he found funny. I ended up making a social media account on Tumblr that was dedicated to calling LGBTQ people fat/ugly/retarded/faggots, and sending hate mail. I told them awful things, and he watched everything. He laughed when I sent a new insult, and told me that when they blocked me, that I was winning. I became obsessed with winning.

This quickly moved onto minorities. I would use """ironic""" racism and antisemitism as an excuse to be bigoted. I was sinking farther and farther into the ideology to the point where I told other women irl that they shouldn't work because men didn't like independent women, and that they were disgusting for putting on makeup that made themselves feel good.

As much as it hurts me to say this, I was thankful for what ended up happening. We quickly got into sexual stuff in the relationship, and he kept pushing me to go farther and farther until he pushed me down on his bed, took off my pants and started fingering me, the whole time never asking if I was ok with this, which I wasn't. I was absolutely stunned, I couldn't move. It felt like I was frozen, and that it went in for at least 5 minutes like that. His mom came up the stairs, and he quickly took me up from the bed, buttoned my jeans and told me that if I told anyone what happened.

After that, it was like everything he did mented away to show the black tar pit that I walked into. Even now, I regret everything I said and did to people. I turned a complete 180° on my views of the world. I deleted the account that I made to harass people, and remade an account I use today to promote LGBTQ acceptance and pride. I've tried to be nothing but active in that community, and support other minorities as well. I'm healing, but there is no happy ending to the sexual assault story. He never got caught, and I only told a few select people in my life. He'd never get that justice served to him.

I'm turning 18 soon (about 2 weeks from now), and I can't help but self-reflect. What would've happened if I stayed like that? Who would I surround myself with? It's a scary thought, but one I'm glad I'm not living. It feels liberating to finally get this off my chest.

To any of the "token women" in the alt-right/far-right community, please listen to me. The people in that group are grooming you. They want you obedient, they want you to be what I was at 15. They only praise you because you're thinking what they are. The moment they find out that you might even consider yourself a little left of their thought process, they'll shame you until you agree with them, because they know how to. Please, wake up from that, and move to better things. You don't have to go through the same regret I went through.

Please get help if you can, and use my story to guide you.

Thank you.

Unfortunately over the last few years me and one of my best friends have grown dramatically apart. Apart from playing rainbow six siege and discussing video games, we never talk anymore. My friend recently came out as conservative, and pro wall. He is latinx and his grandparents crossed over the border. There's not much I can do about it just wanted to vent a bit. I'm glad the subreddit has been created.

I need some help. I'm trying to help my girlfriend understand that Medicare in other countries is far cheaper like it's not even close. And that we can do the same thing in America and don't need to charge 100 times more for the same drug/operation than in other countries. She thinks all these facts am telling her are lies. She thinks my liberal bias is the reason I'm saying these things. Please help!

Not my story, but the story of a 13 year old boy who got sucked down into the alt-right whirlpool enough to become a moderator of some message boards and subreddits and how his parents were quite scared OF COURSE and how he climbed back out.

Unfortunately for some of you it's a LONG article, well not for me, but that's because I actually like reading and can read fairly fast.

ANYWAY: https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/05/05/what-happened-after-my-13-year-old-son-joined-the-alt-right/

Hi I suppose this is not technically what AltRight is not have they been radicalized by JP or any Spanish Equivalents.

So we live in Spain where we have gone through a horrible 40 years fascist dictatorship which resulted from a civil war they won. The problem is my great grandpa fought for the Fascist side and was later killed by Far Left militia's in northern Spain cause he was a police officer. The thing is my grandpa still has an idolized view of Franco (the dictator) and he usually rants about him as the person how solved all Spanish issues and defended the country from the anarchists and communists. Then he goes on total denial of the mass graves still not opened in Spanish soil, how the executed deserved it, how the unions deserved to be persecuted. Denied the persecution of homosexuality during that time (saying it didn't look as bad as they portray it in a Spanish show of that era), how if he had a rifle he'd persecute communists and LGTB people because they will hit him sooner or later because of him going with a Spanish flag on the street (side note: it never happens). All of his knowing I am a communist republican with a help lot of gay friends.

I could go o rampant all day long but you can figure out the rest

My entire family is very alt right. They think Trump can do no wrong and that anything that isn't fox news is fake media and shouldn't be listened too.

I love and respect them, but constantly hearing how good trump is can be kinda annoying. Well, actually more then kinda annoying.

I was raised on the right side of politics, republican and all. I was kinda an asshole in highschool about it, and to this day i'm still ashamed.

I was a bigot and i thought it was okay. But i was like this because i grew up in a home where i was told to think that way and to be like that.

I didn't mature and realize just how wrong it all was until after highschool, how much of an asshole i had been...

And how much the alt right really does brain wash and convince people that it's okay to hate people, as long as they don't look like you.

Politics is politics, yada yada yada. But In the experiances i've seen and had and the way it's effected not only myself but my family and how they see the world?

I think the right is dangerous. Not just wrong, not just stupid. I believe the right, the alt right, and the republicans are legitamate threats to this country and the safety of people.

This is a evil sitting in plain sight, and the actions and beliefs that are brought on by the right are clearly evil, even if i once thought they were good.

It is not good to tell people who they can and can't love and marry.

It is evil to blame a group of people who are desperate and just trying to improve their lives, just so we don't have to accept any blame.

It is absolutely and abhorrently immoral to lock kids in cages and treat the southern border with the hatred that has been displayed, the absolute military pro-white is right defense that is also being spread throughout the countrys police force and neo nazi led riots.

Seeing my family continie to defend these things, to defend shit like protesting "black lives matter" with "blue lives matter" and to fly the confederate flag with the "its not hate.its history" excuse.

The moment I realized though, that something was truly wrong. The moment i knew my parents couldn't be 100 percent right?

I told them that i was interested in a girl at school, who happend to be a light skinned black girl.

I have yet to see a tantrum thrown by my parents the way they threw that tantrum. They said that blacks are fine at a distance, but they weren't gonna raise no "n**ger lover"

I'm still ashamed it took so long (2 years or so) after that to catch on...

...That my family wasn't a christian conservative family who just had good values and wasn't becoming evil like the rest of that gay/colored world.

They were evil, brainwashed bigots who think and do whatever their alt right overlords tell them to do,

And it makes me sad they haven't changed, even alittle.

For instance, my "adoptive" father (not really but he really helped raise me from age 5 - 22), believes in the "shadow planet", that is going to crash into earth and result in the apocalypse.

He starting buying showing differences after Hillary was chosen to be in the primary, not full on believing conspiracies like the shadow planet, or the lizard people, but he was getting more and more into Trump.

After Hillary lost the Presidential race, he was laid off\took early retirement. All that time on his hands and 2 years later he has stockpiled guns, a backhoe and a dumptruck so he can make a shelter for when, I'm not fluent with the conspiracy, Im not welcome after I badmouthed Trump one day), this giant shadow planet that is heading for earth crashes into the earth and destroys the ocean. So that he and his wife can stay warm deep underground after the coming ice age.