3 weeks since surgery. Flat crotch! Although there is still a lot of swelling, bruising and bleeding, I’m really happy with my recovery progress so far! I’m looking forward to when I’m fully recovered and I can wear skimpier underwear instead of these granny panties haha!

Good evening,

I have been trying to find information about vaginoplasty without orchiectomy, an option that could interest me. However, I am finding very few resources on this topic. Could you help me by providing links or documents, as well as answering a few questions?

1. Where are the testicles located after a vaginoplasty without orchiectomy? I read that they might be placed near the vaginal lips, but could you clarify their exact position?
2. Does this cause any pain or discomfort during normal or sexual activities? I’ve read that it might make certain movements, like crossing the legs, more complicated. Is this true?
3. Is there a difference in recovery time between a vaginoplasty with orchiectomy and one without?
4. Is it necessary to schedule regular medical check-ups to ensure everything is going well after the procedure?

Thank you in advance for your assistance and clarifications.

Hello everyone I’m an AMAB non-binary, and I’ve been looking into getting bottom surgery done through my insurance, I’m in PA and have Blue Cross/Blue Shield, and know that is covered under most plans, but unsure if they will cover it since I would still present masculine, and was curious if anyone that got the surgery can share their experience or could provide feedback. Thank you all in advance

Yes, we know what has happened here in the US, and many of our community living here are scared. What next? What steps to take to ensure our journeys don’t end or be destroyed? I have everything in place, just needed a space to recover, but everything is now in jeopardy. How’re y’all doing, please be sure to protect yourselves and our community.

Hi, it's me again...

I just wanted to ask a few questions because I've been feeling unsure about a lot of things regarding the general subject of this subreddit - and I know a lot of this stuff may not directly relate to exactly what it's about, but I couldn't find or think of anywhere else where I could talk about this kinda stuff openly ;-;

So uhm to get into it, I don't exactly know how to describe this, but I feel like I would be happier with the set of genitals I wasn't born with, which is a whole process in itself

What I want to ask is whether or not these feelings are actually, genuinely okay to have, because I've seen conflicting takes on the internet that make me think that maybe it's wrong to express interest in males with the 'opposite' genitalia

Probably unnecessary info that I'm not even sure is allowed in this sub, but I'm a furry, so I thought that maybe I could sorta curb what I think is genital dysphoria a bit by getting art of my sona as what is commonly referred to by many terms (andromorph, intersex male, that other common and generally offensive term)

But there are multiple problems with this:

A lot of artists seemingly refuse to draw those kinds of sonas because it's "fetishizing [gender with the opposite genitals] and trans people" (and thus offensive towards trans people), and a worry I have is that some artists may even refuse art if your sona's genitals don't match the gender/genitals you have in real life

Adding to this, NSFW art in particular may be the most offensive

Are (otherwise cis) males with female genitalia offensive toward transmasc people because it seems that they're fetishizing something that transmasc people don't necessarily want to have associated with them?

Adding to this, intersex people born male with female genitalia actually exist, would it be offensive towards them if an IRL cis guy had a sona, meant to represent themselves, that was also intersex?

I saw a post on twitter that read "if you fetishize women with [male genitalia] or men with [female genitalia], your opinion doesn't matter to me" - does fetishize mean the same thing as enjoy or appreciate in this context? And why should it be any different than enjoying male and female characters with typical genitalia?

I guess what I'm asking is, is envying these kinds of things a bad thing? Is it wrong and offensive to do so? Would it be offensive to actually get art of my sona having something that I don't?

And even onto the topic of real life again, would getting bottom surgery also be offensive towards trans men or just in general?

And finally, would I be allowed to call my sona intersex if I myself am not intersex IRL? I would ask the same question for like, can I make my sona transmasc despite not being trans myself, but the answer to that is also most likely no as that would definitely be offensive

And like, what would I call it then? What would be a non-offensive term that doesn't correlate to any actual gender or gender identity that could be used to describe such characters?

Basically am I allowed to enjoy the things I envy and reflect those things on my sona, which is meant to represent me in a way?

Now I actually did stumble across someone on an art website who did get frequent andromorph/intersex art of their sona, and then even eventually actually get bottom surgery in real life, so maybe it's possible, but it still does seem like it's generally frowned upon to think this way, and very difficult to find people who are okay with it

I guess my view on things is that it seems like the internet is conditioning me to think that it isn't normal to want to view myself or my sona as anything other than a cis guy with typical genitals

Sorry if all this seems incoherent or just... generally offensive, I tried to be very careful with my wording and hopefully didn't say anything offensive, so sorry if I accidently did ;-;

!(and uh if anyone knows any nsfw furry artists who will draw andromorph/intersex characters i'd appreciate any recommendations)!<

Not a personal, and I'm not looking for sex. Feel free to PM if you don't want to advertise where you're at.

It happened! I had vulvoplasty yesterday morning and it all went well! I’m still in hospital and will likely be going home tomorrow. I feel so calm 😊

Thank you so much for allowing me to be a part of this group

Hi all!

It's been a long time posting, but I'm just about 1 year post-op from a full depth, penile inversion vaginoplasty with Dr. Praful Ramineni in Washington DC (original surgery date 10/24/2023). I'm going to include links to my previous posts through this experience at the bottom of the post!

To make a long story short - I had really bad granulation tissue that was tough to treat. I established care with Dr. Jaromir Slama of Boston Medical Center (since I'm local) to take care of it and according to him, it was a pretty weird case where I was "riddled" with granulation at a certain point in my canal. Unfortunately - and despite my best efforts with regular dilation and working with a pelvic floor PT, part of my canal did collapse (likely due to this granulation tissue).

Over the last few months, I've been experimenting around to determine how much depth I actually have and whether it's enough. After yesterday's appointment with Dr. Slama and some experimentation in the bedroom, I've determined that it is not enough. At the moment, I have probably just about 3 inches of depth.

Needless to say, yesterday was very rough and I was pretty devastated, feeling like all of that work and effort went into pretty much nothing. I know that depth revisions are possible, but was under the impression that the only options available to me were sigmoid colon (I want to avoid this if at all possible) and PPT (most likely through NYU or Mt. Sinai, which could involve waiting ~4 years just for a consultation).

After emailing with Dr. Ramineni today, my original surgeon, I've been informed that he has regularly done depth revisions for his patients using allografts. According to him, this is an outpatient surgery with a reduced recovery time than my initial surgery had been. With his schedule, I could get this done even within a few months (due to insurance/job things, I might have to push that out some).

Needless to say, I'm ecstatic that this is a possibility and that I won't be waiting nearly half a decade just to fix the bad luck I had in healing. That being said, I want to try and understand everything that goes into this. Does anyone have any experience with Dr. Ramineni and this kind of revision or another surgeon that offers the same? Thank you!

Previous posts:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/185ikfy/dr_praful_ramineni_gwu_hospital_vaginoplasty/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMABwGD/comments/1d3ldwe/102423_vaginoplasty_w_dr_praful_ramineni_months_4/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMABwGD/comments/194hs1z/102423_vaginoplasty_w_dr_praful_ramineni_weeks/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMABwGD/comments/185aqd9/102423_vaginoplasty_w_dr_praful_ramineni_45_weeks/

Uhhhh... hi?

I don't really know where to start with this, but...

(Sorry if I sound extremely awkward in this I just didn't know how to word things without it sounding weird, if anything sounds offensive, rude, or perverted, I apologize in advance and will delete this post if anyone asks me to)

(I'm posting this on a burner account because... well, y'know)

For a few months now I've felt what I think is a weird and completely messed up envy towards trans men. I can't really explain why the idea of being AFAB but identifying as male seems so... desirable to me, but it does, and the worst part about this envy is that it's completely unobtainable. No one can change their biological gender, and I am AMAB.

The largest part of envy I have regarding trans men is the female genitals, and I've stumbled across plenty of transmasc people on the internet who chose not to get bottom surgery specifically because they like their genitals.

Already I struggled with this sort of hopeless, almost infuriating envy, because I can never be a trans man, obviously.

It got worse after I found out about bottom surgery, because I realized that there was absolutely no way that any doctor or surgeon or primary care provider or anyone was going to NOT turn down any potential request for bottom surgery I made due to me not identifying as trans female or non-binary, because it's not socially acceptable.

I figured this was because society considers the genitals you have/want to be linked to your gender... unless you're trans.

And then the unfairness hit me: it's perfectly fine for a trans man to never undergo bottom surgery, but if a cis man wants bottom surgery, it's weird. It's unnatural. It might not even be legal.

I realized I didn't really dislike any part of my body too strongly besides the genitals, so I can live with not having a typically feminine body - plus, while I do kind of want to have breasts as well, I realized the absurdity of a cis man wanting a mostly feminine body (shape, breasts, genitals, less body hair especially in the genital area - hell, even height, AFABs are shorter on average and I would like to be shorter) but also a masculine face, and decided, nah, I'd be fine with my current body.

I figured that bottom surgery would be at least somewhat feasible, though. I'd still look the same on the outside, and also be able to experience what trans men (and cis women) get to experience sex-wise.

And then I found this subreddit, and discovered that not only am I not alone in what I want, but also that it's POSSIBLE to get bottom surgery as a cisgender man. And I also found out that genital dysphoria was a thing.

Unfortunately, I have... so, so many insecurities.

• I'd have to talk to my primary care provider about bottom surgery, since where I live (and from what I found via research), you're required to have your primary care provider fill out a letter of referral before you can get the surgery. I've read on this sub about doctors/physicians who are accepting towards AMABs who want bottom surgery without being trans, but unfortunately I don't even have that option, changing my primary care provider is difficult and I don't know how I'd able to find one who wouldn't IMMEDIATELY cut me off after I told them, IN PERSON, about this. Even if I was trans the conversation would still be uncomfortable, and I'm VERY socially anxious...

• Am I too young to have these thoughts? I'm 18, and I started having these thoughts months, maybe a year ago... pretty weird, I know... is it too early for me to want to go through with this, or even be THINKING about this? Because again, on this sub, most people who got surgery seem to be in their late 20s to late 50s... but I've also seen transmasculine people online in their 20s posting images of their genitals (and possibly making money off of them) and loving life, which sort of makes me want to get surgery as soon as possible...

• Finally... is it worth it? Let's say I successfully managed to get through the whole process and book an appointment for surgery without getting rejected or denied... is it actually worth it? From what I read, people who go through "male-to-female" bottom surgery (specifically vaginoplasty in this case) have to make two lifelong commitments: dilation at least once a week for the rest of their life, and being on HRT (either estrogen or testosterone) for the rest of their life. Do the benefits of having the surgery outweigh those commitments?

• And as a final question... through vaginoplasty, would it even be possible for the product of the surgery to resemble AFAB genitals and be just as visually appealing as them? Basically, would it able to pass as natal visually (and functionally)?

Over the past week I've done a decent amount of research on this subject, and I'm glad I stumbled across this subreddit because, for one, it let me know that I'm not alone in thinking this way, which is very reassuring, so thanks <3

My main question is... is it worth facing my social anxiety to eventually get a referral form filled out and then getting the surgery so I can live with genitals I actually want, or would it be safer to just live with genitals I can... somewhat tolerate? (Just barely, though. Male genitals are super annoying for me - random erections that prevent you from urinating and hair getting stuck to the shaft are the worst - and I'm not particularly interested in using them for sexual purposes either)

Sub-question as well: Would it only be worth it for one to get bottom surgery if they knew they'd be getting sexual action at least occasionally prior to the surgery? Would it be a waste to get the surgery and then not actually use the new genitals for sex for a while, which could be many years?

I'm not going to take any action anytime soon as I'm still quite young and also probably can't even afford surgery yet - which is also why I think it's weird I'm having these thoughts this early in my life - but I would like to know for future reference.

Is bottom surgery the solution I've been seeking to what I think is genital dysphoria, or is it better to just try and suppress my feelings and forget about them permanently?

So I know what I want, which is a vagina. I want to make 100% sure about it so I want to go to counseling for it. The problem is every time I try to send a message to my doctor I get cold feet and back out. I know it sounds bad but I think I’m scared to admit that technically I’m trans and scared I’ll be labeled as such. I know nothing will happen if I don’t go other than stressing about it, but I can’t get myself to just say it!

I’m just curious. Is it still possible to get a vaginoplasty just like penile inversion if a person already performed penectomy before?

In vaginoplasty, I know you need to have some penile skin to make some depth. But without that, would it still be possible to create some depth to make penetration possible?

Thanks!

Hey all! I'm new here, but this sub seems like a perfect fit for me.

I'm a cis man who over the last couple of years has realized that some of the feelings I've been having for a very long time has manifested as genital dysphoria. Simply put, I wish I was born with a vagina. Having a penis and testicles is an unpleasant experience in general the majority of the time that I'm made to think about it. I really don't know where I stand on surgery and I have a lot of concerns about it.

I suppose it may not be appropriate to actually call myself "cis" by the typical definition, but I do identify as male. I'm comfortable with an outward male appearance, but after a discussion with my boyfriend I might be nonbinary honestly- Like I'm comfortable with male and gender neutral pronouns.

If anyone here has had genital reconstructive surgery and is comfortable sharing their experience that would be great! My main concerns are-

• How bad is the recovery like? I imagine it differs based on the type of procedure, but I hear it can take up to or over a year to fully heal assuming no complications.

• Is cleaning the neovagina a consistent part of maintenance? Furthermore on that point, is it possible to alter the microbiome of it to improve cleanliness and function similar to a natal vagina?

• I'm worried in particular about the new organ being delicate or easy to damage. Can you speak at all to limitations it imposes on vaginal sex? I won't give numbers but my boyfriend is very well endowed and not being able to use the new organ because of limitations like that would be pretty demoralizing as you can guess.

• Finally I'm concerned about sensitivity. As dreadful and deeply unsexy that having sex with a penis is, not being able to get off at all would suck pretty fat nuts. Obviously I'm not expecting it to be mind blowing or anything but I also wonder if just having a vagina with very little sensation is better than having a penis I tolerate the presence of.

Obviously talking about this stuff can feel invasive to people, so only divulge what you're comfortable with! I'm excited to be a part of this community and post progress I make

Hella everyone!

Like it says in the title, I'm a cisgender man going through a real deal of confusion.

I guess in a nutshell, what I feel is that the male genitalia that I have right now doesn't fit with the rest of my body. In my mental image of me, everything is just the same but in it, I don't have a penis. It's like, I do like my hairy body and flat chest as well as my deep voice, I really do but when I think about my genitalia it just messes the whole thing for me.

I think that throughout my life I've always pondered the idea of "What if I didn't have a penis? Would I like that?" and the answer was always yeah but I didn't really put deeper thought into it, but lately with the dysphoria I´ve been feeling it's really coming to be a problem. I don´t like looking at myself naked in the mirror in the mirror and I do actively try to cover up my crotch with baggy clothes.

I've also thought about what it would feel like not having a penis. I catch myself zoning out and staying up late thinking about and I really do like the idea. As cheese as it sounds, it's what my body is meant to look and feel like.

I guess that now that I'm re-reading the whole thing it's pretty clear I have some sort of dysphoria, but idk. I guess I want some reassurance that that's what it is and that I'm not going crazy, and if it is gender dysphoria or genitalia dysphoria, where do I go from there?

Thanks in advance, I hope my ramble wasn't too boring and my question too obvious to answer.
Have a beautiful day :D

I am one of the few lucky people that were able to have vaginoplasty as male a year ago, I was on testosterone gel/injections since then.

But to be honest I ve lately been questioning myself if i want to continue testosterone or I should start estrogen.

My question to you, especially for people post op, how masculine is your body physically? Do you feel attached to those masculine features? Do they feel right?

I was always a bit fat so I really never had any strong masculine body features, even body hair were visible but pretty light, I was often quite insecure cuz i felt the only thing differentiating me from a woman was my facial hair.

Something that has become a lot more noticeable post op, my body feels very feminine, especially when I fully shave, I kinda of find a weird thrill sensation when I do, I enjoy being feminine in that regard, I was never truly masculine so starting estrogen would only make me more feminine, but once breast growth reaches full size and I fully shave, there will be nothing left to differentiate me from a woman I feel, my face was doesnt have strong masculine features anyway.

It feels like I am slowly creeping towards being more and more feminine but at some point, I would physically look completely like a woman, vagina, boobs, curvy body, lack of strong hair, i never liked having visible muscles too so it kinda makes me thing I internally never wanted to be masculine in any way.

Curious as to how people who remain male feel, are you attached to your masculine features? And what about for those who take estrogen? What do you feel makes you different from a woman visually?

Hi all! new here 🥰 question:

I’m amab (he/they) (maybe non-binary) interested in getting bottom surgery but I wanted to make sure I do what I can to make sure everything is “functional” down there (i’m talking about s*x). I’m not on any hormones currently but would be willing to start if necessary for function.

What do I need to maximize my chances of this and still keep a sex drive afterwards? What would my regimen look like before/after surgery? I know there are risks there inherent to the surgery itself, of course.

I am so excited right now! I have surgery booked for 6th Jan next year; however, there’s a good chance I’ll be moving it forward to November depending on if I can get time off easily at work.

I’m in Australia and I’ve found a surgeon who can do a zero-depth vulvaplasty. To say I’m excited is an understatement.

I plan on posting progress updates and pictures for anyone that’s interested.

Hey folks!

If you are one of the people who has been sitting and waiting for a moderator to approve you to join the subreddit: I'm so sorry that it's taken me so long to get to you! D:

Reddit has only been informing mods about half of the approval requests that the subreddit has been getting, so it wasn't until I happened to click on the approval requests tab that I realized it hadn't been letting us know about all of you wonderful people who were waiting to participate.

We'll be checking that tab daily from now on just to be sure nobody slips through the cracks again. Thank you all for your patience!

While researching stories of men who get vaginoplasty and otherwise continue to live/present as men (a long-term goal of mine), I've discovered a potential first step/alternative in a perineal urethral reroute. Essentially, a urologist creates a new urethral opening in the perineum (the area between the genitals and anus). Pee/cum will now come out of that new opening.

This has some benefits that I think would help me (and potentially others with GD) while being far less risky/costly than jumping straight to SRS. Obviously, you'd now need to sit to pee, just as you would with a vagina. Your sexual function would otherwise remain the same, but cum would now come out of the new hole rather than your penis, leaving it as sort of a "big clit" purely for sexual pleasure.

Risk is relatively low as well. It's performed by a urologist, can be reversed, and if you can find one to "play ball", can potentially get it covered by insurance as medically necessary. Additionally, based on some experiences I've read, it has no negative impact on someone who eventually gets SRS.

I'm curious if anyone here has had one/considered one? What's it like? Does it help with the GD at all?

Are there certain things to say / answer and things not to say for people like us?

I had a surgical consult with a provider that could not conclude that I have a diagnosis where Vaginoplasty would be the best treatment for.

I feel like I have to give certain answers or use words in such a way that the person evaluating you comes to the conclusion that you have gender dysphoria.

Has anyone else experienced the same?

Hi, new here! Wanted to know about alternatives to full facial/body hair removal as I'm not interested in getting rid of it entirely. I'm more interested in reducing the amount & thickness of it instead of full disposal.

***Aliases will be used for names

T.W.: SA, mentions of pornography and genitalia.

It is evermore tiring is the thing between my legs. I don’t fully know why it bothers me so much, I used to not mind but then again it took to puberty to become evident that it was wrong.

I am 26, 27 in two months. Even before I was SA'd at 16, with him grabbing them and scrutinizing the details. I remember watching gay porn for the first time, I was 14… the bottom not stroking but still in euphoria, no idea why it felt good. Then I used a nunchuck (brilliant idea, I know) to penetrate myself and even though it felt amazing, it was still off. I remember not being able to stroke, the very action feeling obtuse and incorrect. Yes it felt good, yet wrong in a way far deeper than religious shame.

I remember the first time at 14 where I put lotion in a soft bag and used that to hump my stuffed animal, yes it felt good but wrong in the same way. Maybe because I couldn’t see it? I can still orgasm, but my intersex body produces no sperm. I found out I was sterile at 20 years old. My doctor quickly started me on testosterone, and I’ve been there ever since.

I remember the first time I saw ftm porn, I was 15. He was bottoming and stroking. It felt so right, yet there was the shame and I quickly exited out. But it stuck with me.

It took to the pandemic, I was 22, telling strangers about what it felt like. I went to my first discord server and found out that there were cis men of all ages removing their testis or penises willingly, and describing euphoria in a way that felt right.

I remember the first time seeing a man who willingly asked a surgeon to remove all of his external genitalia, keeping a flat groin with a spot of a buried remnant of the head of his penis. He was a nullo. From the pics he showed me, it was clear that he was super hung, so why did he do it and why was I so drawn to it?

I will forever thank this man for showing me so much patience and talking me through it all. His name was Emmerson, he was 53, living outside Chicago, and my first platonic true love. We lost contact over time, but I’ll never forget him.

I soon met another. His name was Alec, a beefy muscular man who used he/they pronouns… something I had been considering for some time. He was 28, I was 22. He is a teacher, with a loving husband, and the first I had met who had all external genitalia turned into a deep vulva. This time, it clicked again. He was like Emmerson, but somewhat lacked the intimacy. He introduced me to others who felt the same way. I learned again that the options were so much broader. They all opened my eyes.

I still struggle with it all. Clearly, knowing your truth makes the pain worse. I’m weeping now.

A week ago, scrolling on smutty twitter (I refuse to call it X), I found a photo of a person very similar to me, but younger who had undergone the lifetime event that I craved. I have been following those of similar experiences for quite some time. I felt a pit in my stomach and a wave of regret. Why regret? I don’t know.

I dreamed that night of my celebrity crush (Matt Bomer) looking at me nude and said “I’ll chop it off right now if you want me.” I immediately said yes and he did it. All I felt was relief. The next day I told my boyfriend, and another beautiful soul who empathized. They said the same thing in different words: “it needs to be done, I will host you for recovery if you need a safe place to recover.”

I remember yesterday. My boyfriend and I were sharing a bath, and he softly played with the head of my genitalia. I remember moaning with euphoria only experienced a handful of times as he said, “I can’t wait for this to feel as good in your dream body… your Barbie bits becoming what they’re meant to be.”

As he held me last night as we fell asleep. I wept softly.

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Hey Folks!

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That's all! Thanks for your attention, everyone! :)

Hey folks!

Don't forget to tag your posts with the appropriate flair when you make them. I've been noticing we have several posts that us mods have to go in and tag after the fact, and that's something you should be doing when you make your post (it's one of our three rules).

Thank you! :)

Hi, I’m wondering if any has, or know of someone, who has had vaginoplasty at Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN?